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Eref Ataru Bio-Tech Research Luna Sanguinem 3	Posted - 2012.06.22 12:25:00 - [1] - Quote Hi I just wondered where the line is drawn as to the exploitation of game mechanics. I noticed an article today on a popular eve news site, and it mentioned that a certain corporation had been exploting a recently added game mechanic, greatly to their benefit. My question is, if you manipulate the market to exploit a game mechanic isn't that against the Terms of Use of Eve and therefore bannable? This topic may need to be moved, but I am a new Citizen and I would like a question answered, as I noticed that for example with Sov exploiting downtime was a grey area.
Major Trant Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 65	Posted - 2012.06.22 14:38:00 - [2] - Quote What is the Sov exploit? I must be a noob. Is that where you stront your tower so that it comes out of reinforced mode around downtime?
Louis deGuerre The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities 340	Posted - 2012.06.22 14:46:00 - [3] - Quote At a guess, I'd say making sure your Sovereignty Blockade Unit is only vulnerable during a patch or something. I recall after a patch a large number of systems were SBU'd like that. Some were removed by GMs, but on another occasion some weren't. FIRE FRIENDSHIP TORPEDOES ! Louis's epic skill guide v1.1

ISD Etetia ISD STAR 51	Posted - 2012.06.22 16:38:00 - [4] - Quote Hello Eref Ataru Abusing uintended bugs in the game is not allowed, as per the Terms of Service, paragraph 23 However, based on the very limited information provided here, it is of course difficult to tell whether the particular scenario you are describing is allowed. Talking about the details of an exploit is against the forum rules, and the forum is therefore not the correct place to post this question. If you have any doubts whether something is an exploit, please create a petition If you've found an actual bug in the game mechanics, please file a bug report ISD Etetia Commander ISD STAR

mxzf Shovel Bros 1819	Posted - 2012.06.22 18:24:00 - [5] - Quote From what I've seen and heard, the general consensus I've seen (as handled by the GMs) is that twisting the system to exploit an oversight is perfectly fine. Abusing a glitch or error, especially after being told that it is against the rules can lead to you getting banned. Pretty much, if someone/something official tells you to stop, you should (and if it's a bug, you should stop and also report it). Otherwise most stuff should be fine.
Linna Excel Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 51	Posted - 2012.06.22 18:54:00 - [6] - Quote ISD Etetia wrote: Hello Eref Ataru Abusing untended bugs in the game is not allowed, as per the Terms of Service, paragraph 23 However, based on the very limited information provided here, it is of course difficult to tell whether the particular scenario you are describing is allowed. I think he's talking about how the goons were manipulating things based on the changes to FW for huge amounts of LP and created and ISK fountain. There's a huge thread about it in general. The purpose of hi sec isn't to eliminate PvP but to weed out the dumb pvpers.
Flakey Foont 159	Posted - 2012.06.22 19:01:00 - [7] - Quote Another stealth "Goons are bad" thread.
FloppieTheBanjoClown The Skunkworks 1813	Posted - 2012.06.22 19:13:00 - [8] - Quote Our motto is "Do it until they patch it." It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you.
J'Poll Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn 281	Posted - 2012.06.22 20:44:00 - [9] - Quote Ooh the Goons FW, LP output. I wouldn't count it as an exploit. It's a game mechanics and Goons just found a way to make massive money out of it. CCP didn't think through that this would be possible. It's not a bug in the game, it's making use of the game mechanics, so it's not an exploit. Though I'm happy that CCP is going to fix it. btw, I HATE Goons, but people complaining on the forum should stop and fight them with spaceships. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction
Nikolai Dostoyevski Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.06.22 22:27:00 - [10] - Quote Flakey Foont wrote: Another stealth "Goons are bad" thread. Actually, quite the opposite. OP was trying to win sympathy points for the Goonies position. Metagaming at its finest. Goon tears flowing like water.

Abdiel Kavash Paladin Order Fidelas Constans 611	Posted - 2012.06.23 00:18:00 - [11] - Quote Market manipulation is completely valid gameplay and never an exploit, no matter on what scale. Stories are told about enterpreneurs controlling universe-wide markets for months and gaining untold riches. As far as actual exploits go, in the vast majority of cases when CCP finds something they don't like, they post a news item telling people not to do it (and promptly fix the bug). Very rarely are people punished retroactively before explicitly being told that something is an exploit. This involves trivially obvious cases such as item duping, breaking modules to inflict infinite damage, etc. I believe what you are specifically asking about is anchoring sov structures right before a known extended downtime, such as during patch deployment. This has been deemed an exploit by CCP about a year ago. Without going too much into detail about sovereignty mechanics, these take several hours to anchor and online, during which the defending alliance usually has time to respond to the attack. However if one deploys them immediately before an extended downtime, the defender has no way to respond while the game is down, and the sov structures are effectively invulnerable. If you find a mechanic that you are not sure about, you should always petition just to be sure what you're doing won't get you in trouble (and in case it actually is a bug, to help CCP find it and patch it sooner).
Luis Graca 62	Posted - 2012.06.23 02:29:00 - [12] - Quote Eref Ataru wrote: Hi I just wondered where the line is drawn as to the exploitation of game mechanics. I noticed an article today on a popular eve news site, and it mentioned that a certain corporation had been exploting a recently added game mechanic, greatly to their benefit. My question is, if you manipulate the market to exploit a game mechanic isn't that against the Terms of Use of Eve and therefore bannable? This topic may need to be moved, but I am a new Citizen and I would like a question answered, as I noticed that for example with Sov exploiting downtime was a grey area. The line is were the DEV that is dealing with it decide there's no written stuff about that only in general terms


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