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Cleft Assbottom
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Posted - 2010.01.04 12:15:00 -
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Edited by: Cleft Assbottom on 04/01/2010 12:20:50
I feel i should be making more. People talk about making 100 mil/hour solo mining ark with a hulk, so shouldn't i be able to take in more than 14 million isk/hour with a retriever?
I mine 104 units of ark(1664 m3) per cycle
I sell arkonor at 7k per unit.
That's 2080 units of arkonor per hour, selling at 7k each for 14 mil per hour. :(
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Cerlestes
Caldari
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.04 12:23:00 -
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Edited by: Cerlestes on 04/01/2010 12:22:56
 Originally by: Cleft Assbottom
People talk about making 100 mil/hour solo mining ark with a hulk
That was like 4 years ago 
http://ore.cerlestes.de/
My Ore Table shows you how much worth a jetcan is (if you don't change the amount).
As you see, Arkonor is worth about 9.7 Mil per can. Good Hulk pilots can fill 4-5 cans per hour, which makes something between 39 and 48 Mil ISK.
That's of course much more than you make in your Retriever, but keep in mind that a Hulk mines like 2-3 times the amount of what a retriever can mine.
So, don't worry, when you got your Hulk you'll make much more ISK :)
Hope I could help, don't hesitate to ask further questions.
Regards, Cerl
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Cleft Assbottom
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Posted - 2010.01.04 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Cerlestes
Edited by: Cerlestes on 04/01/2010 12:22:56
Originally by: Cleft Assbottom
People talk about making 100 mil/hour solo mining ark with a hulk
That was like 4 years ago
http://ore.cerlestes.de/
My Ore Table shows you how much worth a jetcan is (if you don't change the amount).
As you see, Arkonor is worth about 9.7 Mil per can. Good Hulk pilots can fill 4-5 cans per hour, which makes something between 39 and 48 Mil ISK.
That's of course much more than you make in your Retriever, but keep in mind that a Hulk mines like 2-3 times the amount of what a retriever can mine.
So, don't worry, when you got your Hulk you'll make much more ISK :)
Hope I could help, don't hesitate to ask further questions.
Regards, Cerl
Well it's wh mining so at best i'll be using a coveter. Thanks for the info :)
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H3llHound
Blacksteel Mining and Manufacturing
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Posted - 2010.01.04 12:31:00 -
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Well firstly you have a Retriever(=2 Turrets) and they have a hulk(=3 Turrets). And including the ships bonuses to yield, etc. you will get appr 5600units of ark with gang bonuses you would get close to 6800 units p/h. But this is only when you mine a full hour into a jetcan with gangbonuses. It will put you short of 40M p/h. Topgrade Ark will give you an adiitional 10% income.
With a single Hulk those 100M/h are impossible to reach imho. But if someone shows/posts how to do so please do 
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Grunch
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Posted - 2010.01.04 15:58:00 -
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Easy! I run three Hulks and a hauler in an Ocra boosted fleet mining Mercoxit. Way over 100m an hour...tada
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Kounm Rahn
Leviathan Shipyards
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Posted - 2010.01.04 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Grunch
Easy! I run three Hulks and a hauler in an Ocra boosted fleet mining Mercoxit. Way over 100m an hour...tada
If you were flying Skiffs, you'd be making roughly a third more profit. Skiff with Exhumer V is 4 effective Strips while a Hulk only has 3. If the Hulk's yield bonus applies to Mercoxit, well... The skiff is still better.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.01.04 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Cleft Assbottom
People talk about making 100 mil/hour solo mining ark with a hulk
Solo ? No way.
In a very large gang with a mindlinked pilot Orca/Rorqual running the proper links (up to +60% overall yield) and dedicated haulers (so you can mine non-stop), while ignoring the share of haulers/commander, also ignoring refine quotas and with a max-skills/max-implants Hulk used for mining, assuming the mining op goes on undisturbed for hours without running out of ore, probably somewhere close but not quite 100 mil per hour.
A much more realistic figure after everything is taken into account under the same circumstances in a medium-sized mining op would be somewhere around 50 mil per Hulk pilot per hour, or less.
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2010.01.04 17:41:00 -
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Without absolutely perfect skills and gang bonuses, we tend to pull around 27-30 million per hour for each Hulk mining A or B. They've been very close in ISK/m3 recently.
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PoopyTheClown
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.04 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Cerlestes
Edited by: Cerlestes on 04/01/2010 12:22:56
Originally by: Cleft Assbottom
People talk about making 100 mil/hour solo mining ark with a hulk
As you see, Arkonor is worth about 9.7 Mil per can. Good Hulk pilots can fill 4-5 cans per hour, which makes something between 39 and 48 Mil ISK.
I get this type of number using a hulk with 2MLU II permatanking with full gang bonusses + 5% yield implant. My specialty crystal mining amount is somewhere around 1800+m3 arkonor = about 5400m3 / yield. Keep in mind that 40 mill + / hour is based on uninterrupted mining. Some rat spawns with high RoF u simply cant permatank and sometimes requires u to warp out, u can have neuts/reds visit system requiring to warp to safety & hop in combat ship etc etc...
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Jeanne Varto
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Posted - 2010.01.04 21:05:00 -
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Edited by: Jeanne Varto on 04/01/2010 21:05:14
Also, why are you selling the ark and not refining it?
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Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor
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Posted - 2010.01.05 00:50:00 -
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I worked it out that I get about 38mil an hour after I sell the refined products at typical prices for my empire region.
That's a Hulk with Exhumers 3, Mining Foreman 5 (fleeted), 5 Mining Drone I's with Mining drones 4, T2 strips using T1 ark crystals and 2 Mining upgrade II's.
I get about 5500 units of Ark per hour. Not sure what you could do other than upgrade your equipment and maybe skills? What kind of fitting are you using? Are you using drones?
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Tramp Oline
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Posted - 2010.01.05 01:10:00 -
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Never believe those per hour numbers.
When they say solo they just mean they made that by themselves with just their own characters. That usually means 3 or more of their accounts mining/hauling/boosting.
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Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor
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Posted - 2010.01.05 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tramp Oline
Never believe those per hour numbers.
When they say solo they just mean they made that by themselves with just their own characters. That usually means 3 or more of their accounts mining/hauling/boosting.
This is true to some extent. I need to jet can mine, then come back with my Orca to pick it up. Then take it to a refinery and time to sell. I don't include them in my total ISK/Hour even though they go into it but when you neglect those, it gives everyone the same base from which to compare.
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Mara Tessidar
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Posted - 2010.01.05 01:51:00 -
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14m per hour is not terrible but not wonderful, either. You can do several things to improve your yield: get Mining Foreman up (fleet only), use the specialized crystals and T2 Strip Miners, and of course, get in a Hulk. There are some more I didn't mention but if you're soloing then that's about all you can really do.
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2010.01.05 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Tramp Oline
Never believe those per hour numbers.
When they say solo they just mean they made that by themselves with just their own characters. That usually means 3 or more of their accounts mining/hauling/boosting.
Plus those numbers are typically ideal situations. There's one particular wormhole grav site that has a single Bistot rock that has about 60,000 units in it. There's another one that has a dozen or two Crokite rocks, all that only have 2,000 units each in them. In the first case you can sit still and continuously mine that one rock for a long time. In the second case you move all over creation, so you waste a lot of time switching targets.
Me, when I quote numbers, it's usually just based on units of ore per cycle times the ore density times the ISK/m3 ratio of the ore in question. I personally pull in 294 units of Ark per cycle including mining drones, so 294 x 16 is 3984 m3 per 3 minutes. If that ore is worth 400 ISK/m3, then it would be effectively 3984 x 20 x 400, or 31.782 million ISK / hour. Ark has been worth in the mid-high 300s the last few times I've checked it, but it's been a couple of weeks since I've run the numbers too. I can't say what the current value is.
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Scout Ops
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Posted - 2010.01.05 15:50:00 -
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^^ what he said ^^
roids are not a unlimited supply of ore, they pop yo know.
and unless you have a survey scanner and are a master of calculations, you will be wasting time. Anyway the scanner technique may drive you crazy... im talking from my experience LOL I just prefer to lose iskies rather than get a headache after a long session of calculations 
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Bastila Revan
Amarr
Azriel's Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.05 18:34:00 -
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If you guys would look around the forums, then trying to do calculations to find out how much Ark is each morning after downtime. Like this link which is updated every morning after downtime Mon-Fri for ore pricing based on major trading hubs. HERE is the link.
Enjoy, hope this makes it little easier. But other then just the price of the ore to keep you updated. It is well worth the time to train into a Hulk, even though the Hulk price rising cause of recent suicide ganks and other problems. In time after few weeks of being in the Hluk you can easliy make the money back you spent on the Hulk right back.
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Bodega Cat
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Posted - 2010.01.06 17:06:00 -
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Best to use covetor only in wormhole, unless you have accounts stationed at each wormhole entrance listening for roamers.
The difference between a hulk and covetor won't make up for the price of the hulk the one or two times a month it gets popped. Covetors on the other hand, cost nearly nothing to replace by comparison.
In low sec you can watch local so hulk is doable.
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Mielono
Caldari
SWARTA
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Posted - 2010.01.07 22:53:00 -
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Mining Ark in a hulk I make about 40-50 million in an hour, not including haul time, guard pay, etc... which probably decreased my hourly to 30-40 million an hour. About on par with someone who is intermediate skilled and running lvl 4s.
So for 1 retriever to make 12 mil an hour is a bit low... but at the same time its not horrible.
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