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Jenaveve Rosseau	Posted - 2010.01.04 16:51:00 - [1] If I feel a GM has been inadequate and their manner rude to whom would I go to? I have been back and forth with a GM for 2 weeks about a skillpoint problem and he refuses to clarify his responses to me or answer any of my questions, his vocabularly consisting of little beyond the words Sorry, I, cannot, help and you.
5pinDizzy Amarr Pillow Fighters Inc	Posted - 2010.01.04 16:53:00 - [2] Discussion of moderation is not permitted on the forums, if you have an issue with a GM please file a petition.
Peter Wheatstraw Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2010.01.04 16:56:00 - [3] Discussions of petitions in not allowed in the forums......please file a ........ oh dam.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2010.01.04 17:02:00 - [4] Escalate the petition to get a decent GM to take a look at it. The quality of the GM staff isn't exactly constant and they have their noobs too.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.01.04 17:04:00 - [5] Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Escalate the petition. Originally by: Akita T We don't hate people like you, we look at you with mostly pity and a hint of disgust balled up in a big wad of "notto disu shi'tto agen".
Jenaveve Rosseau	Posted - 2010.01.04 17:05:00 - [6] I have told this GM I want to do so and he has said there is no option for me to pursue any sort of escalation. Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Escalate the petition.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.01.04 17:08:00 - [7] Originally by: Jenaveve Rosseau I have told this GM I want to do so and he has said there is no option for me to pursue any sort of escalation. Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Escalate the petition. In that case if you really felt the gm was genuinely rude and unhelpful then make a petition on the gm in question. Even the staff can have a bad day. Originally by: Akita T We don't hate people like you, we look at you with mostly pity and a hint of disgust balled up in a big wad of "notto disu shi'tto agen".
Skoot Local Threat	Posted - 2010.01.04 17:10:00 - [8] Edited by: Skoot on 04/01/2010 17:11:18 I wouldnt waste my time if I was you. A GM's word is final, and all you will do is make it so they never help you in the future. You might aswell just quit eve after making this thread. You are doomed now. PS. Originally by: Peter Wheatstraw Discussions of petitions in not allowed in the forums......please file a ........ oh dam. lawl
Lee Dalton Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.01.04 17:11:00 - [9] Originally by: Jenaveve Rosseau I have told this GM I want to do so and he has said there is no option for me to pursue any sort of escalation. Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Escalate the petition. Unless he is a senior GM, he is lying to you. Demand he escalate it to a senior GM - nicely of course. ;) *** You're only as good as your last fight.
Ick Ickagami	Posted - 2010.01.04 17:13:00 - [10] can i haz ur stuffs?

Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.01.04 17:15:00 - [11] Originally by: Lee Dalton nicely of course. ;) This right here is where I think the majority of 'bad gm' poasts come from when they emorage a huge petition filled with angst and insults over 5 lost drones when the server borked then wonder why it takes months to get it solved or that the gm isn't all sunshine and rainbows with his reply. Whats that olde saying? Garbage in. Garbage out? Originally by: Akita T We don't hate people like you, we look at you with mostly pity and a hint of disgust balled up in a big wad of "notto disu shi'tto agen".
Jenaveve Rosseau	Posted - 2010.01.04 17:23:00 - [12] Edited by: Jenaveve Rosseau on 04/01/2010 17:23:23 Well, this thread isn't to discuss my petition. It's to find out what my options are concerning the GM and what to do next. The GM isn't a lead GM but says he consulted with one. I have been very polite with the GM and he has been disrespectful and rude to me. I had to ask him 3 times to please explain the reason for his decision and he has yet to answer me beyond "because we said so" essentially. His language is curt and abrupt and frankly his attempt at helping me seemed lackadaisical at best. I am very disappointed.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.01.04 17:27:00 - [13] Can you tell us what you petitioned about? Just from your side mind as any disscussion of moderation of said petition will get the thread locked. Originally by: Akita T We don't hate people like you, we look at you with mostly pity and a hint of disgust balled up in a big wad of "notto disu shi'tto agen".
Jenaveve Rosseau	Posted - 2010.01.04 17:31:00 - [14] Well, apparently I missed the part that said you can't discuss petitions on the forums. So, I'd rather stick to discussing my options as to how to best get my petition addressed rather than discuss any specifics. At this point it isn't even the issue so much as how my petition has been handled, or rather, mishandled. Yes, I'd like to see a decision in my favor, but that is no longer my primary concern. Originally by: Zeba Can you tell us what you petitioned about? Just from your side mind as any disscussion of moderation of said petition will get the thread locked.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.01.04 17:34:00 - [15] Originally by: Zeba Can you tell us what you petitioned about? Just from your side mind as any disscussion of moderation of said petition will get the thread locked. I rather suspect that we'd give him the same answer as the GM, only more so.
Jenaveve Rosseau	Posted - 2010.01.04 17:37:00 - [16] That may very well be the case, but it is irrelevant. I'm not here to whine that my petition was denied. I'm here to find out if I have any options beyond what this one particular GM is telling me. If I may ask, how can you give more of the same answer? Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Zeba Can you tell us what you petitioned about? Just from your side mind as any disscussion of moderation of said petition will get the thread locked. I rather suspect that we'd give him the same answer as the GM, only more so.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.01.04 17:46:00 - [17] be careful, because I once had a petition answered by one gm, (or so it said on the new message thing), but his signature had the name of a different gm... OHGODS BELOW THIS LINE IS MY SIG !!!! SRSLY! Blane Xero > Lance is at -0.9 sec status with a 1 million bounty. Lance is also amarrian. Thats 3 evil points
Droog 1 Black Rise Inbreds	Posted - 2010.01.04 17:49:00 - [18] Just tell us what the problem with your sp was. You don't need to post what the GM said.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2010.01.04 17:50:00 - [19] Just do it! --------
Nareg Maxence Gallente JotunHeim Hird	Posted - 2010.01.04 17:54:00 - [20] The absolute last resort you have is to email [email protected].

James Tritanius	Posted - 2010.01.04 18:00:00 - [21] Posting the GM's reply to your petition is against forum rules, but just posting the content of your complaint is not. So feel free to post the content of the your petition here.
randomname4me	Posted - 2010.01.04 19:39:00 - [22] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Lee Dalton nicely of course. ;) This right here is where I think the majority of 'bad gm' poasts come from when they emorage a huge petition filled with angst and insults over 5 lost drones when the server borked then wonder why it takes months to get it solved or that the gm isn't all sunshine and rainbows with his reply. Whats that olde saying? Garbage in. Garbage out? this On the other hand everyone has there own opinion and you can feel free to disagree with my sig. EVE Online: Rated RRR- For Explicit Breakfast Piercing Bullets.
LaVista Vista Conservative Shenanigans Party	Posted - 2010.01.04 19:50:00 - [23] Originally by: Nareg Maxence The absolute last resort you have is to email [email protected]. Yes, if you have escalated the petition to a senior/lead GM and you believe they are being rude, internal affairs is the place to contact. They are nice guys. But try with a senior/lead GM first.
Callista Sincera Amarr	Posted - 2010.01.04 20:29:00 - [24] You may also want to consider that this is the company that told us to HTFU :) What I'm saying is, that maybe your perception of "rude" may not be the same as CCP's. Not saying they are rude bastards or anything, but they might not be the kind of guys to sugarcoat everything for you. Another thing to consider: A foreigner's not-so-100%-perfect english can easily be perceived as rude, especially in text. Happened to me quite a few times on various forums and I'm the kind of person who walks grandma over the street irl. Anyway, good luck with your petition. Hope it's worth the effort - everyone's. -
UVPhoenix2 R.EVE.olutioN Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.01.04 20:44:00 - [25] Yuggoth is one of the GMs to stay away from. He uses nothing but vague, cookie-cutter canned responses and never properly investigates the issues that I petition. You need to find some way to get your petition reviewed by a senior GM, or at least someone else who isn't the one giving you a hard time. ___ After I'm gone, your Earth will be free to live out its miserable span of existence, as one of my satellites, and that's how it's going to be.
Estel Arador Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services	Posted - 2010.01.04 21:19:00 - [26] Let's assume the GM actually was rude. The interesting question is, was he more rude or less rude to you than you were to him? Free jumpclone service: Thread\|Expanded again!
MAX MEXX	Posted - 2010.01.04 21:27:00 - [27] This is the place to discus GM idots: http://scrapheap-challenge.com/

GM Horse	Posted - 2010.01.04 22:27:00 - [28] If you feel dissatisfied with the performance of a GM, I'd begin by asking for another GM, and if you feel that one is unsatisfactory as well, I'd ask for escalation. And if you think the GM is really, really terrible and wish to file a formal complaint against him, file a petition under "Gamemasters & ISD".

Khemul Zula Amarr Keisen Trade League	Posted - 2010.01.04 23:06:00 - [29] Originally by: GM Horse ...file a petition under "Gamemasters & ISD". Oh the 'spam' folder is definately going to get filled now. Or is it the recycle bin with that one? Veal, murder. Baby Carrots, healthy snack. Food hypocrisy at work.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.01.04 23:37:00 - [30] Originally by: GM Horse And if you think the GM is really, really terrible and wish to file a formal complaint against him, file a petition under "Gamemasters & ISD". Do these petitions go to different people than the normal GM staff? Because I remember using that once and the GM I complained about was the same one that insta-closed my petition about him under that category and i was all like lolwtf Originally by: Jim Raynor EVE needs danger, EVE needs risks, EVE needs combat, even piracy, without these things, the game stagnates to a trivial game centering around bloating your wallet with no purpose.



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