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utilitaric
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Posted - 2010.01.05 16:52:00 -
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Here is what I have setup to order so far.
Mainboard: ASUS M4A79T Deluxe AM3 DDR3 AMD 790FX ~$135 Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 ~$180 CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core ~$179 HardDrive: OCZ Vertex Turbo OCZSSD2-1VTXT60G 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) ~$209
I'm stuck on the video... I want to be able to run between 6-8 clients I currently run 4 with no issues on twin 9800GT512's. However 5 is pushing it.
Suggestions?
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari United Systems Navy Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2010.01.05 16:59:00 -
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Id save yourself a little money and buy one of the lesser clocked amd phenom II quads, just make sure its black edition(unlocked multiplier) . Those chips are overclocking on easy mode so you can push it up to 3.4 with ease, i got mine to 4.1 with very little trouble(hotter than the hinges of hell though).
For the video might i reccomend ati 5850/70 cards, they are very powerful, and you can spread the eve awesome out across 3 screens with eyeinfinity, and those cards also overclock very well. Ati's 40nm range are pretty damned sweet, cool, draw little power, and have a lot of muscle.
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Aikar Adora
Amarr Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2010.01.05 17:10:00 -
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Is money an issue?
Could go similar to what I'm getting in a few months.
http://tinyurl.com/aikargibson
I assure you that will run 10 eve's lol - Aikar [FFXI: 75BLM x2/75WHM (Yes the Windower Aikar) 2004-? - EVE [12/2009-~) |
d3vo
Isotope Laboratories
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Posted - 2010.01.05 17:20:00 -
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Wait until March and get the new Nvidia cards.
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Skoot
Local Threat
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Posted - 2010.01.05 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: utilitaric Here is what I have setup to order so far.
Mainboard: ASUS M4A79T Deluxe AM3 DDR3 AMD 790FX ~$135 Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 ~$180 CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core ~$179 HardDrive: OCZ Vertex Turbo OCZSSD2-1VTXT60G 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) ~$209
I'm stuck on the video... I want to be able to run between 6-8 clients I currently run 4 with no issues on twin 9800GT512's. However 5 is pushing it.
Suggestions?
I run 7 clients, the trick is to turn the graphics all the way down, on all of them.
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mechtech
SRS Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2010.01.05 17:28:00 -
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Edited by: mechtech on 05/01/2010 17:30:28 Edited by: mechtech on 05/01/2010 17:29:35 I'd say spend the same price and get an i5 750.
I got my i5 750 for $150, and this mobo it top notch for the price. (the mobo is really nice, EVGA has a new loyal customer) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188054&cm_re=evga_p55-_-13-188-054-_-Product
With these 2 products and a decent cooler I'm running 4GHz 24/7 with 8GB RAM. 4GHz on an i5 is equal to about 5GHz on a PhenomII (nehalem 20-25% faster clock for clock). At dead stock speeds the PII will edge out the i5 a little bit, but even with stock volts an i5 can hit 3.4GhZ very very easily, just change a couple numbers in the bios, while the PII will only end up at 3.8ish maxed out, and it already runs very hot at stock 3.4Ghz.
Also, my 5850 runs 5 clients, all with details set on med/high, at 60+ fps each. It's a killer card for $260 and there is no reason to wait.
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Callista Omenswarm
Astronautical Engineering
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Posted - 2010.01.05 17:39:00 -
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At what point are you limited by bandwidth though?
Anyone know the pipe requirements on a single eve client? Astronautical Engineering - T1 BPC Store - Now recruiting |
TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari United Systems Navy Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2010.01.05 17:55:00 -
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The bandwidth isnt really a problem, eve runs on air when it comes to just normal casual playing in the way of network. Multiple clients shouldnt cause problems. However, jump your 8 clients into a lagged to **** system with 1700 people in it then yeah you might have some problems there(ccp your netcode sucks ass)
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Semmia Al'Kadun
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Posted - 2010.01.05 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: Semmia Al''Kadun on 05/01/2010 18:21:14 Edited by: Semmia Al''Kadun on 05/01/2010 18:19:15 One thing I might add would be to have several installations of the client, split up amongst several drives if possible. Sure, SSDs are fast as heck, but for the same cash you can get several nice fast spindle drives.
I would lean towards an Nvidia video solution, I've had nothing but headaches with ATi in the machines I've built up over the past decade and a half.
Other than that, the listed hardware ought to do a great job.
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Ak'athra J'ador
Amarr Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.05 18:19:00 -
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you would be surprised how little bandwidth MMOs need. you can run most if not all of them on the old 56k dialups.
to the OP, don't get confused by GHzs, you cant really measure cpu by that any more. I was gonna go for the amd II x4 black as well, the best version they had on the market, but according to tests the i5 was still better. well if your just gonna do gaming they are pretty much the same, i5 is only better if you do encoding and stuff...
as for graphics...big ati fan here :D
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utilitaric
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Posted - 2010.01.05 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing Id save yourself a little money and buy one of the lesser clocked amd phenom II quads, just make sure its black edition(unlocked multiplier) . Those chips are overclocking on easy mode so you can push it up to 3.4 with ease, i got mine to 4.1 with very little trouble(hotter than the hinges of hell though).
I've hear mixed reviews about getting the 955 or 945 and just uping the clock. Can you get them to the same speed as the 965 and stay under 125w? With peak wattage around here jumping to .25 cents on the dollar I need a green power house :)
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utilitaric
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Posted - 2010.01.05 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Aikar Adora Is money an issue?
Could go similar to what I'm getting in a few months.
http://tinyurl.com/aikargibson
I assure you that will run 10 eve's lol
You never know! However Money isn't an issue, but no need to over spend.
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts/compare,1398.html?prod%5B2617%5D=on&prod%5B2780%5D=on
You'll spend twice as much on the proc, and twice as much on the intel board then I will with the AMD and only see 5% return. not worth it IMHO. I mean to each thier own.
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utilitaric
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Posted - 2010.01.05 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: mechtech Edited by: mechtech on 05/01/2010 17:30:28 Edited by: mechtech on 05/01/2010 17:29:35 I'd say spend the same price and get an i5 750.
I got my i5 750 for $150, and this mobo it top notch for the price. (the mobo is really nice, EVGA has a new loyal customer) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188054&cm_re=evga_p55-_-13-188-054-_-Product
With these 2 products and a decent cooler I'm running 4GHz 24/7 with 8GB RAM. 4GHz on an i5 is equal to about 5GHz on a PhenomII (nehalem 20-25% faster clock for clock). At dead stock speeds the PII will edge out the i5 a little bit, but even with stock volts an i5 can hit 3.4GhZ very very easily, just change a couple numbers in the bios, while the PII will only end up at 3.8ish maxed out, and it already runs very hot at stock 3.4Ghz.
Also, my 5850 runs 5 clients, all with details set on med/high, at 60+ fps each. It's a killer card for $260 and there is no reason to wait.
Now that is a sexy setup! But i can't find the i5 near that price. 193~ It is funny that you use a Intel CPU with an AMD Vid LOL
So your getting a 30-40% boost off that intel chip eh? The i5 is as good as the AMD 965 in benchmarks and since eve is CPU heavy (For what I do) I'm impressed. Can you get a CPUID for me to see your setup?
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utilitaric
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Posted - 2010.01.05 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Semmia Al'Kadun Edited by: Semmia Al''Kadun on 05/01/2010 18:21:14 Edited by: Semmia Al''Kadun on 05/01/2010 18:19:15 One thing I might add would be to have several installations of the client, split up amongst several drives if possible. Sure, SSDs are fast as heck, but for the same cash you can get several nice fast spindle drives.
Even Cheata drives can't keep up with >1ms seek times. But I am looking at all options. Can you link what drives you would recomend and how many?
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.01.05 19:04:00 -
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By turning off all effects and sound with everything set to low then running in windowed mode at 1024x768 I ran 10 clients(5 reg/5 sisi) at once with no issues on my older build of an e6750, 2 gigs, 9800gtx+ and a couple of 7200rpm sataII drives. All of them were at around 30~40 fps at all times so I don't see you having any issues with the brand new computer build.
Originally by: Akita T We don't hate people like you, we look at you with mostly pity and a hint of disgust balled up in a big wad of "notto disu shi'tto agen".
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utilitaric
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Posted - 2010.01.05 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: mechtech Also, my 5850 runs 5 clients, all with details set on med/high, at 60+ fps each. It's a killer card for $260 and there is no reason to wait.
Where do you order your parts? the i5 looks like a good deal and the card looks sweet, but I can't find th prices you are listing here.
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utilitaric
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Posted - 2010.01.05 19:12:00 -
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reg/sisi? Ya lost me, what does this mean?
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Scout Ops
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Posted - 2010.01.05 19:12:00 -
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Edited by: Scout Ops on 05/01/2010 19:14:51 Edited by: Scout Ops on 05/01/2010 19:12:53 I guess you run on full screen? If yes, in terms of graphics its like just running 1client. Im not sure about VRAM, though (memory of the graphics card).
I would go with a ATI 5850 1GB, it must be more than enough. As others commented, you dont need a so powerful CPU.
8GB of RAM should be enough for 10 or more clients. Remember RAM is the critic factor when multiboxing! 4GB would have probably been too low, so good job there.
Of course you should disable sound on all the accounts. Ideally each account is run from a different installation. (just copy EVE folder 9 times... lol at HDD space consumption) You dont need ubergraphics on all accounts either... minimize settings for secondary accounts for example industry alts or whatever.
fixed some words im dyslexic today lolz
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000Hunter000
Gallente Missiles 'R' Us
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Posted - 2010.01.05 19:13:00 -
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6-8 clients...
gives a whole other meaning to 1 man corp
I suggest u increase ur daily doses of daylight instead ________________________________________________
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Nian Banks
Minmatar Berserkers of Aesir
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Posted - 2010.01.05 19:47:00 -
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Oh ho someone wanting to run multiple clients on a to be built new pc...
My advice, get a motherboard with 6x ddr3 slots, populate with 12gb of as fast a memory as you can, G.Skill Trident is my choice atmo. For the CPU, the 15 is nice but the i7/i9 is coming out with 6 physical cores. For your HDD, eve writes allot if stuff to drive but doesn't load all that much, drive lag isn't an issue, your usually sitting waiting for the server. Get the new Kingston V Power 40Gb ssd (has a gen2 intel controller) for your boot drive and then buy yourself a couple of WesternDigital 300Gb velociraptors in raid0 for games and such.
For graphics, get two ATI 5850's. ATI has the new eyefinity feature, allows you to play games in multimonitor mode, awsome for fps's. Each card also supports 3 monitors at once so get yourself 3x 24" and 3x 19" LCD's that support VESA mounting brackets. set the 24"'s long ways as the bottom row and the 19"'s as the top row. Desk mounting VESA monitor arms are cheap.
Basically you would have a wall of monitors and be able to view 6 clients at once. It's not that expensive, your looking at under $1000 for the monitors and brackets.
Don't forget to get a decent big case with lots of air flow and a quality CPU cooler. The coolermaster cm690 is a good case.
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Jin Jemai
Tripod Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.01.05 22:52:00 -
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Even on my i5 750 and an ATI 5870 I have to keep the settings all the way down to run 5 visible clients, don't expect to be able to run 7 windowed clients at any sort of high settings no matter what system you build. There's just too much going on.
Better off setting up a couple separate boxes if you can.
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Daelorn
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Posted - 2010.01.05 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba By turning off all effects and sound with everything set to low then running in windowed mode at 1024x768 I ran 10 clients(5 reg/5 sisi) at once with no issues on my older build of an e6750, 2 gigs, 9800gtx+ and a couple of 7200rpm sataII drives. All of them were at around 30~40 fps at all times so I don't see you having any issues with the brand new computer build.
I hope by 1024x768 means you're down resing your clients, because if you're not then...
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.01.05 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Daelorn
Originally by: Zeba By turning off all effects and sound with everything set to low then running in windowed mode at 1024x768 I ran 10 clients(5 reg/5 sisi) at once with no issues on my older build of an e6750, 2 gigs, 9800gtx+ and a couple of 7200rpm sataII drives. All of them were at around 30~40 fps at all times so I don't see you having any issues with the brand new computer build.
I hope by 1024x768 means you're down resing your clients, because if you're not then...
Heh, thats the windowed client resolution. My desktop runs at 1920x1080. With a more powerful machine and 4 or 8 gigs of memory you should be able to run all of them at just under your desktop resolution and still get great performance.
Originally by: Akita T We don't hate people like you, we look at you with mostly pity and a hint of disgust balled up in a big wad of "notto disu shi'tto agen".
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Eliza Farcaster
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.01.05 23:11:00 -
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Surely multiple computers is the way to go? Its far cheaper to build two or three resonable PCs than one super powerful one.
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Darth Skorpius
Crystalline INC THE-FEDERATION
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Posted - 2010.01.05 23:27:00 -
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make sure you get a physics card and sound card as well. and dont forget its gonna need a tonne of fans to cool it, or just liquid cool it ______________________________________________
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Grez
Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.01.06 04:06:00 -
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Edited by: Grez on 06/01/2010 04:14:21 ATI HD 5970 is the most powerful graphics card on the market. You can't get any better, at all, or even close. It's ridiculously more powerful than two 9800GT's, even beats the 295 and two 285's in SLI my margins of 20%-35%.
Really is the best you could get. Crazy fast card. No need to get two 5870's, because that's what the 5970 is (dual GPU-PCB). I've had nothing but ATI cards since the 9800 (since 2003-2004), and I've had no problems with them ever.
You can get a 5970 with 2GB of VRAM too, which will be very handy when running lots of clients. ---
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Nian Banks
Minmatar Berserkers of Aesir
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Posted - 2010.01.06 05:09:00 -
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Originally by: Grez Edited by: Grez on 06/01/2010 04:14:21 ATI HD 5970 is the most powerful graphics card on the market. You can't get any better, at all, or even close. It's ridiculously more powerful than two 9800GT's, even beats the 295 and two 285's in SLI my margins of 20%-35%.
Really is the best you could get. Crazy fast card. No need to get two 5870's, because that's what the 5970 is (dual GPU-PCB). I've had nothing but ATI cards since the 9800 (since 2003-2004), and I've had no problems with them ever.
You can get a 5970 with 2GB of VRAM too, which will be very handy when running lots of clients.
Thats true to a point, but if you want to run 6 monitors you need two cards :)
Personally I am saving for a 5970 and a 5870 and am going TRI-GPU.
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Daelorn
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Posted - 2010.01.06 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Daelorn
Originally by: Zeba By turning off all effects and sound with everything set to low then running in windowed mode at 1024x768 I ran 10 clients(5 reg/5 sisi) at once with no issues on my older build of an e6750, 2 gigs, 9800gtx+ and a couple of 7200rpm sataII drives. All of them were at around 30~40 fps at all times so I don't see you having any issues with the brand new computer build.
I hope by 1024x768 means you're down resing your clients, because if you're not then...
Heh, thats the windowed client resolution. My desktop runs at 1920x1080. With a more powerful machine and 4 or 8 gigs of memory you should be able to run all of them at just under your desktop resolution and still get great performance.
Heh then
Myself I only have a 1680x1050... I need to get rid of it... newegg had/has a 24" 1980x1080 LED screen by LG I believe that I quickly seen while skimming... iirc it had a reasonable price too
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Wieting Foyu
Gallente Foyu Trading World
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Posted - 2010.01.06 10:23:00 -
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Save your money and buy your GF something. You only need one account so cancel all your alts and buy your GF something.
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Flauschig Katzchen
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Posted - 2010.01.06 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Wieting Foyu Save your money and buy your GF something. You only need one account so cancel all your alts and buy your GF something.
Now by "GF" do you mean Goonfleet, goldfish, or godfather? ------ sig |
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