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ALI Virgo
S O L O M O N STR8NGE BREW
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Posted - 2012.06.22 19:57:00 -
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I was blitzing Drone Horde Cosmic Anomaly in carriers.
With local up and eyes on intell channels and with team speak and in a dead end system. As I finished one of the hordes and recalled all my drones. Razer alliance shows up in overview only .. 40 plus in small waves and bubbles up. Repair models did not respond, could not refit carriers even most caps were 2 km away and or redeploy drones. Also Razer alliance not showing in local to me and my local alliance members while engaged. I was able to deploy some drones and start repairs while carrier was near Structure and was able to kill a few of them. Alliance members giving chase to pods and seeing them pass through bubbles like they were not even there. No time dilation also no lag. Just local chatter of Razer saying "good fight, thank you for not self distrusting, Honor able fight etc etc"
They manged to pass through 60 km of bubbled gate in battle cruisers and t2 and few t3s.In less then a few second. I saw about 12 of them in over view before the first one popped up in local and about three seconds later forty vs one. It was more upset about not being able to fight back then losing my caps. Not being able to put a Smart bomb on from a nearby carrier not even being able to turn on modules for good 30 seconds with most hostiles within 5- 7 km away drone even closer.. With my Modules not responding I just waited and made most of the situation .
Perhaps it is just a bug. Local used to display offline charters a few week ago not it seem defective or delayed.
I petition the matter and I was told this morning it would not be fare to 40 players for my ship to be replaced. Even though My alliance members and screen print showed the hostiles were not in local with My capitals engaged. Does not sound fare to me. It seems value of 40 accounts out weigh the of just one person
I have played eve for many years and have greatly enjoyed it but now now perhaps its time to realize the obvious and move on to other games. Ccp can restore my ships and just fix their small bugs then to respond to my petition within an hour and saying it wont be fare to 40plus player |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1572
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Posted - 2012.06.22 20:27:00 -
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Sounds like you got caught in a log on trap |

Tikktokk Tokkzikk
Minmatar's Shadow
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Posted - 2012.06.22 20:28:00 -
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Can I have your stuff?
And this is an old exploit that I thought was fixed. |

MaryJane T
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.22 20:42:00 -
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Login Trap. Also, AFAIK you can no longer refit during combat as they patched that out recently. |

Stellar Artois
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
0
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Posted - 2012.06.22 21:44:00 -
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THE LOGS SHOW NOTHING
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Ginger Jesus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:13:00 -
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Be at peace my son. |

Solaris Ecladia
Brothers At Arms Hades.
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:50:00 -
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Tikktokk Tokkzikk wrote:
And this is an old exploit that I thought was fixed.
Yea that old exploit got fixed awhile back, but there's always a new one.
OP, mass login on your carrier sounds fun. And Im betting they didnt burn through your bubbles, they warped through them. Also glitched out local on login. |

Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
258
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Posted - 2012.06.22 23:30:00 -
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ALI Virgo wrote:Even though My alliance members and screen print showed the hostiles were not in local with My capitals engaged. Pics please?
Post with your monkey. |

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
428
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Posted - 2012.06.22 23:49:00 -
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Who is "Razer?" In irae, veritas. |

Shik Koken
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.23 04:13:00 -
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Interesting case study of not going to null sec. This buggy incident took place in a 0.0 system. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13730674
The more and more I read about null space in these forums, the more it shows it to be a flawed design and poor place to move to from high sec. 
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Betrinna Cantis
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Posted - 2012.06.23 09:11:00 -
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Shik Koken wrote:Interesting case study of not going to null sec. This log-out/log-in exploit incident took place in a 0.0 system. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13730674The more and more I read about null space in these forums, the more it shows it to be a flawed design and poor place to move to from high sec.  It happens in Hi sec too. That log in trick was used during one of our warrs. Did not know it was and exploit though. Alts have been changed to protect the Innocent. You may have mistaken me for someone who cares..... |

Marcus McTavish
EnC Heavy Industries Rolling Thunder.
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Posted - 2012.06.23 16:31:00 -
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ALI Virgo wrote:I was blitzing Drone Horde Cosmic Anomaly in carriers.
With local up and eyes on intell channels and with team speak and in a dead end system. As I finished one of the hordes and recalled all my drones.
HURRDURR
He was actively running sites, then logged into a bubble, really guys, just read the post first, ive heard about this kind of stuff but can confirm or deny. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
304
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Posted - 2012.06.23 16:56:00 -
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Nice crosspost, bro. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=124568&find=unread Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window. (Link was wrong, now fixed) |

lanyaie
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Posted - 2012.06.23 17:03:00 -
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And tell me who cares?
I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you Currently offering 100% legit hulkageddon security sponsored by the mittani, send 50m to me and 50m to him |

forestwho
Foonfleet Investment Banking
0
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Posted - 2012.06.23 17:25:00 -
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rly easy: wormholes... scout gos in, got you on scan, runs anomaly scan, warps to you and tackels, it not rocket sience but need to preform perfect for these kind of results
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GreenSeed
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Posted - 2012.06.23 17:44:00 -
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you got owned, but yeah that log in crap is an exploit.
Betrinna Cantis wrote:It happens in Hi sec too. That log in trick was used during one of our warrs. Did not know it was and exploit though.
How is it not an exploit? In what head can it be even remotely perceived as "not an exploit"? I hate local, everyone does... but the rule is, if you are not cloaked in system you show in local, going around it itGÇÖs an exploit. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
304
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Posted - 2012.06.23 19:23:00 -
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As I stated in the other thread, this is likely a result of the current bug with local chat, which we weren't aware of at the time. There was no exploit. Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window. (Link was wrong, now fixed) |

Michael Harari
The Hatchery Team Liquid
170
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Posted - 2012.06.24 01:45:00 -
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If this was today, there was a period where all the chat channels, including local were completely ******. I was in the local of a system I had jumped out of. |

Kalel Nimrott
Wishful Desires Inc. Armada Assail
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Posted - 2012.06.24 06:04:00 -
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Ppl with local, how nice! |

ALI Virgo
S O L O M O N STR8NGE BREW
9
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Posted - 2012.06.24 07:22:00 -
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get rid of local |

Frillo Teslar
2plus2isfive BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2012.06.24 09:47:00 -
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Stellar Artois wrote:THE LOGS SHOW NOTHING
The logs are a lie! |

Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
1572
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Posted - 2012.06.24 10:08:00 -
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I really doubt you worded the petition a way that made the situation 100% clear for the GM ... I also doubt you uploaded the screenshots and gave the GM a link ...
I also doubt you asked for escalation of the matter ... Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

jimmyjam
Deadspace Exploration Conglomerate Clockwork Pineapple
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Posted - 2012.06.25 18:29:00 -
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Shik Koken wrote:Interesting case study of not going to null sec. This log-out/log-in exploit incident took place in a 0.0 system. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13730674The more and more I read about null space in these forums, the more it shows it to be a flawed design and poor place to move to from high sec.  Trust me this stuff happends in low sec as well just go to placid and hang around some belts in a slightly ganky ship and see what happends. |

ALI Virgo
S O L O M O N STR8NGE BREW
9
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Posted - 2012.06.25 19:35:00 -
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I created two threads for thic topic thsi one has more feedback https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=124568 |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
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Posted - 2012.06.26 17:29:00 -
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The other thread suggests you either suffered from some bad lag, a short-lived bug, or your own incompetence.
There are no exploits I've ever heard of that would allow someone to be in a system and not be in local. Trust me, I'd abuse the hell out of it until I got warned. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |

Tauren Tom
Order of the Silver Dragons Silver Dragonz
68
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Posted - 2012.06.26 17:41:00 -
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GreenSeed wrote:
How is it not an exploit? In what head can it be even remotely perceived as "not an exploit"? I hate local, everyone does... but the rule is, if you are not cloaked in system you show in local, going around it itGÇÖs an exploit.
wtf? Even cloaked you show in local... The only place you don't show in local is Wormholes. And God I love wormholes :D In the grand scheme of things... You're all pubbies. So HTFU."It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses." - Elwood Blues |

Betrinna Cantis
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Posted - 2012.06.26 17:55:00 -
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GreenSeed wrote:you got owned, but yeah that log in crap is an exploit. Betrinna Cantis wrote:It happens in Hi sec too. That log in trick was used during one of our warrs. Did not know it was and exploit though. How is it not an exploit? In what head can it be even remotely perceived as "not an exploit"? I hate local, everyone does... but the rule is, if you are not cloaked in system you show in local, going around it itGÇÖs an exploit. What I meant to say is it was used against us. I agree that circumventing game mechanics to gain an advantage is an exploit..... I think I read that somewhere..... Alts have been changed to protect the Innocent. You may have mistaken me for someone who cares..... |

Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2012.06.26 20:35:00 -
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regarding carriers not being able to refit while being attacked, has that been changed? I know I saw CCP talk about stopping it but have not seen anything else since. On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |
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