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ShadowII
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Posted - 2010.01.06 13:04:00 -
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Edited by: ShadowII on 06/01/2010 13:05:10
I have filed a bug report for this, but was wondering if anyone else has had the same issue?
Literally as soon as you open eve, the internet will not work on any other computer on the network until you close eve again.
You may get the odd page to open now and then, but it seems this is entirely related to eve.
I've never had any problems with it before Dominion.
So, I'm guessing it's some sort of port problem?
Does anyone have any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
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Vint Rotach
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Posted - 2010.01.06 13:15:00 -
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I've used multiple mac clients on the same network, and from same machine. Other internet apps etc all keep connected.
So... Whats the specifics on your config, network setup, etc?
Router? USB? Wireless? Connection sharing? Cable/DSL/Dialup(eeek!)?
All that kind of stuff.
Vint
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ShadowII
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Posted - 2010.01.06 13:23:00 -
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Edited by: ShadowII on 06/01/2010 13:23:48
27" iMac 4GB ram with 3.06 Ghz Processor running Snow Leopard (latest build)
Network is a router with an Apple Airport Hub connected into it sending the net wirelessly. (2MB broadband)
Like I say, it's been fine before Dominion, it's just something we've started to notice.
Thanks.
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Disco Jack
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Posted - 2010.01.06 17:25:00 -
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I am also having connectivity issues. I'm on a 24" iMac with a time-capsule linking my net to the ISP router. Turning on or off other net applications seems to cause EVE to DC.. and then the client doesn't restart even though it's supposed to :(
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ShadowII
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Posted - 2010.01.06 17:44:00 -
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(Forgot to quote you)
 Originally by: Vint Rotach
I've used multiple mac clients on the same network, and from same machine. Other internet apps etc all keep connected.
So... Whats the specifics on your config, network setup, etc?
Router? USB? Wireless? Connection sharing? Cable/DSL/Dialup(eeek!)?
All that kind of stuff.
Vint
27" iMac 4GB ram with 3.06 Ghz Processor running Snow Leopard (latest build)
Network is a router with an Apple Airport Hub connected into it sending the net wirelessly. (2MB broadband)
Like I say, it's been fine before Dominion, it's just something we've started to notice.
Thanks.
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cave seer
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Posted - 2010.01.16 18:59:00 -
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Actually, started noticing something similar, but to be honest didn't associate it with Eve since it's only been happening with Dominion. Basically, with Eve running other clients on the wifi network have difficulty connecting or drastically reduced speeds including laptop, ipod and iphone. Running extreme airport for the wifi and the desktop running Eve is connected directly to the router.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.01.22 05:04:00 -
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17" iMac Core 2 Duo, Apple Airport Extreme (with disk connected for Time Machine backup).
I've been having problems with my D-Link router locking up when I'm running EVE. EVE still works fine, but other applications such as web browsers can no longer make connections until the D-Link router is rebooted.
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ddooxx
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Posted - 2010.01.22 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: Disco Jack
I am also having connectivity issues. I'm on a 24" iMac with a time-capsule linking my net to the ISP router.
This is my setup. I could be wrong but it seems to be more common when a sync (either .Mac sync or hourly Time Machine backup ) is going on. |
ShadowII
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Posted - 2010.01.26 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: cave seer
Actually, started noticing something similar, but to be honest didn't associate it with Eve since it's only been happening with Dominion. Basically, with Eve running other clients on the wifi network have difficulty connecting or drastically reduced speeds including laptop, ipod and iphone. Running extreme airport for the wifi and the desktop running Eve is connected directly to the router.
Yeah that's exactly my problem.
If everyone hasn't already, please file a bug report - as it seems this is quite a small problem that only some are experiencing.. but still it's quite drastic, and it's only started since dominion. (for me at least)
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Disco Jack
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Posted - 2010.02.01 00:43:00 -
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Yeah I've been experiencing just about the same thing. I ran an app once that looked at how much bandwidth I'm using and it can spike pretty high while playing eve, sure I expect a spike during session changes etc, but the game seems pretty bandwidth intensive, which is probably why there's so much lagg during big battles. The data being sent back and forth is enormous.
Eve being such a complex and data-heavy game I'm not really surprised...
Hrmm.. Just thought about the Big fleet battles, I wonder if their server recalculates a players damage range constantly.. if so they could cut back on that with saved invisible variables that are only updated on completion of a skill or when a module is removed/changed that could help..
AND I seriously hate not being able to post more than once every 5 minutes.. it's lame and limits the input CCP can get from players since ideas are not on 5 minute cooldowns hehe. Why not just remove the cooldown from paying members?
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ShadowII
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Posted - 2010.02.21 12:22:00 -
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This problem still exists.
Web Browsing works... I run eve... Web Browsing no longer works for me or anyone else on the network.
This is starting to become a bit of an issue for me as I'm unable to play without stopping everyone else on the network from using the internet.
I have filed a bug report but got the following response:
Thank you for your bugreport - ID:91128 Title: Mac Client Issues
The problem you have described was non-reproducible. If you are still having the problem you described, could you please updater your bug report with an improved set of reproduction steps.
This problem started after the Dominion Patch.
I don't know how else I can describe it. Eve is sucking up all of the bandwidth or blocking other connections or something.
Other things to note are that the ingame browser does not work either, but maybe it could stem from this after the changes were made in Dominion?
Again, I'm running a 27" iMac with 4GB of ram and a 3.06 Dual Processor.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Vint Rotach
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Posted - 2010.02.24 12:28:00 -
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I spotted a common config in the couple of people that mentioned it...
Are those having this problem all using the Apple Timecapsule as their wireless gateway?
Here's my theory (if you all are) ....
WiFi to the time capsule is carrying your net connection and your time machine backup.
WiFi to the time capsule is being shared by everyone/anyone else who also might be running time machine.
Time machine runs its backup every 15mins (IIRC).
I'd need to check (not at my mac at the moment), but..
While you're playing eve... where does the mac version store the eve logs etc? Is it 'in' the package, or in your home directory?
So.. IF (big IF) the logs etc are in the package of the eve client (at about 6Gb in size) every 15 minutes because that package now seems to be a little bit different timemachine wants to back it up. Which involves opening your timemachine archive over the wireless, writing the change, then saving it back again, over wireless. By the time its done that its probably about 15mins later to start over again.
I'll have a nose into the eve package contents tonight see if I can spot what might be going on.
In the mean time, can you disable your time-machine backups for a day? See if eve and everything else starts working?
I use timemachine, but I have that set to a share on a server, and I use a gigabit cable to my router not wifi. So I bet my network performance is very much faster.
All a theory... But maybe something to look into.. will report back tonight.
Vint
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Tiska Drak
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.02.25 03:57:00 -
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Originally by: Vint Rotach
WiFi to the time capsule is being shared by everyone/anyone else who also might be running time machine.
Time machine runs its backup every 15mins (IIRC).
Every hour actually. I'm not noticing any unusual network issues with EVE and my Time Capsule.
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Vint Rotach
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Posted - 2010.02.25 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Tiska Drak
Every hour actually. I'm not noticing any unusual network issues with EVE and my Time Capsule.
How do you connect to it? Cable or wireless?
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Tiska Drak
Gallente
Dreddit
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Posted - 2010.02.26 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: Vint Rotach
Originally by: Tiska Drak
Every hour actually. I'm not noticing any unusual network issues with EVE and my Time Capsule.
How do you connect to it? Cable or wireless?
Wireless. I do use the "Wide Channels" option in Wireless Options. That might have something to do with it.
Still... the Mac client seems to saturate network connections in a way that the Windows client does not.
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ShadowII
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Posted - 2010.03.02 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Vint Rotach
I spotted a common config in the couple of people that mentioned it...
Are those having this problem all using the Apple Timecapsule as their wireless gateway?
Here's my theory (if you all are) ....
WiFi to the time capsule is carrying your net connection and your time machine backup.
WiFi to the time capsule is being shared by everyone/anyone else who also might be running time machine.
Time machine runs its backup every 15mins (IIRC).
I'd need to check (not at my mac at the moment), but..
While you're playing eve... where does the mac version store the eve logs etc? Is it 'in' the package, or in your home directory?
So.. IF (big IF) the logs etc are in the package of the eve client (at about 6Gb in size) every 15 minutes because that package now seems to be a little bit different timemachine wants to back it up. Which involves opening your timemachine archive over the wireless, writing the change, then saving it back again, over wireless. By the time its done that its probably about 15mins later to start over again.
I'll have a nose into the eve package contents tonight see if I can spot what might be going on.
In the mean time, can you disable your time-machine backups for a day? See if eve and everything else starts working?
I use timemachine, but I have that set to a share on a server, and I use a gigabit cable to my router not wifi. So I bet my network performance is very much faster.
All a theory... But maybe something to look into.. will report back tonight.
Vint
I'm not using time capsule unfortunately. It's just wireless being sent out from an Airport hub connected to the main router.
I have been asked to carry out some tests and stuff by CCP but I haven't had the time to do so yet.
Not only that, it's a problem that's only recently appeared, I don't really feel like spending ages trying to fix a problem on a game that I'm paying for, yunno?
That's not to say I won't, but still, it's a lot of stuff to do...
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2010.03.22 11:32:00 -
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I suffer from this too. Oddly enough not *all* the time.
Another oddity is that sometimes EVE itself slows down but the apps in the background run fine.
I can have C4D, PSCS3, and Safari up in the background and everything runs smoothly. But then there are moments when browsing, shopping etc. goes extremely slow.
A reboot and clearing EVE's cache usually helps.
And now for the really freaky part, I have photoshop open but play EVE. Two clients in windowed mode for several hours. Just play EVE nothing else. Then I quit EVE go into photoshop and I get an error report by PS, telling me it couldn't perform a task because of an error. 
It only happens after having played EVE.
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Tiska Drak
Gallente
Dreddit
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Posted - 2010.03.24 06:12:00 -
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Originally by: Serpents smile
I suffer from this too. Oddly enough not *all* the time.
And now for the really freaky part, I have photoshop open but play EVE. Two clients in windowed mode for several hours. Just play EVE nothing else. Then I quit EVE go into photoshop and I get an error report by PS, telling me it couldn't perform a task because of an error.
It only happens after having played EVE.
You're expecting stable software out of Adobe? At my office, the pizza-fund swear jar is funded through Adobe products crashing and acting strange.
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Hagis McBree
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.03.25 14:53:00 -
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ok quick question for the people having the network issue..
how many have this setup..
broadband modem (supplying an no router IP like 10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x) -> wireless/wired router (supplying it's own set of IPs) ->computer ?
this issue is starting to sound like a double NAT issue..
if you have a set up like this see if you can put your wireless into bridge mode, and see if that fixes your issue.
Originally by: CCP Fallout
If you've not yet done so, please file a bug report.
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ShadowII
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Posted - 2010.03.27 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Hagis McBree
ok quick question for the people having the network issue..
how many have this setup..
broadband modem (supplying an no router IP like 10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x) -> wireless/wired router (supplying it's own set of IPs) ->computer ?
this issue is starting to sound like a double NAT issue..
if you have a set up like this see if you can put your wireless into bridge mode, and see if that fixes your issue.
Yeah that's my setup (using the Apple Wireless hub - Airport)
But I've just tried something. I have 2 macs, one has leopard and my new one has snow leopard.
If I run eve on the older one with Leopard I don't get the problem, but when running it on Snow leopard I do.
I'll look into the bridge mode, I've seen stuff like that in settings, but I'll probably end up breaking it.
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