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Ran Khanon Amarr The Phantom Acolytes	Posted - 2010.01.07 11:08:00 - [61] Originally by: Major Stallion This clearly shows how this event is destroying eve :P Oh my ... I hope you cleaned your pants! Please re-size your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
Rannarl	Posted - 2010.01.07 11:46:00 - [62] Originally by: Cliffy Byro Cheese with your Whine sir? STFU its a sandbox, we can do what we like. yeah problem there is the game mechanics don't make it very easy for the miners or their corps to fight back and you're insanely nieve if you think EVE is a complete free-for-all sandbox.
Imagonnawhupya	Posted - 2010.01.07 12:01:00 - [63] Originally by: Rannarl Originally by: Cliffy Byro Cheese with your Whine sir? STFU its a sandbox, we can do what we like. yeah problem there is the game mechanics don't make it very easy for the miners or their corps to fight back and you're insanely nieve if you think EVE is a complete free-for-all sandbox. Are you kidding? The game mechanics make it very easy. Its called MINING WITH FRIENDS. While a few corps members mine in hulks, others fly guard in BS and cruisers. Its that simple. BTW its spelled "naive".
Lazr GoPew Here comes the pain train	Posted - 2010.01.07 12:04:00 - [64] Originally by: Rannarl Originally by: Cliffy Byro Cheese with your Whine sir? STFU its a sandbox, we can do what we like. yeah problem there is the game mechanics don't make it very easy for the miners or their corps to fight back and you're insanely nieve if you think EVE is a complete free-for-all sandbox. au contraire my friend. The game mechanics make it incredibly easy to fight back. The thing is even when its made so easy they wont. Their loss.
Rannarl	Posted - 2010.01.07 12:04:00 - [65] 90% of hulks can be popped in a matter of seconds, this being done by a person who's already prepared to be killed afterwards by CONCORD hence the term suicide gank...Do you really think a few friendly ships will A. Deter someone already resigned to loose their ship and B. Do it within a matter of seconds while being careful not to summon CONCORD themselves.. tard.
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.01.07 12:12:00 - [66] Whoah this thread is still going on? Look at all the ganker e-hard-ons . And you idiots still haven't realized the thread is a troll by one of your own . If you can't produce tears just make them up, eh? :P. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
Major Stallion The Dark Horses	Posted - 2010.01.07 12:13:00 - [67] Edited by: Major Stallion on 07/01/2010 12:13:36 Originally by: Ran Khanon Originally by: Major Stallion This clearly shows how this event is destroying eve :P Oh my ... I hope you cleaned your pants! im still cleaning the mess out...i seem to have gotten this thick, gooey, white substance all over myself
Imagonnawhupya	Posted - 2010.01.07 12:15:00 - [68] Originally by: Rannarl Edited by: Rannarl on 07/01/2010 12:08:06 Edited by: Rannarl on 07/01/2010 12:06:17 90% of hulks can be popped in a matter of seconds, this being done by a group of people who're already prepared to be killed afterwards by CONCORD hence the term suicide gank...Do you really think a few friendly ships will A. Deter someone already resigned to loose their ship and B. Kill all the aggressors (in small ships) with their BS's within a matter of seconds while being careful not to summon CONCORD themselves.. tard. And yet somehow pilots in hulks seem to survive on occasion. It may have something to do with this thing called "tanking" and "warp alignment" and "GTFO when a suspicious ship shows up in the belt" There are ways to survive and live to "strip a roid belt with 5 alts at once" another day. You just need to plan ahead and be aware of the activities of pilots around you. BTW, you forgot to put in the "re" in that insult at the end.
JaseNZ Gallente	Posted - 2010.01.07 12:17:00 - [69] Originally by: Major Stallion This clearly shows how this event is destroying eve :P Nice, but you left some alive...lol. Hell, I'm a carebear yeah, but watching how fun it is to be an evil bastage, I'm gonna go roll a piewat alt now I think...haha.
Rannarl	Posted - 2010.01.07 12:19:00 - [70] No, that was intentional :)

Swalesey Prosperity Through Violence	Posted - 2010.01.07 12:28:00 - [71] The problem is, people who only mine are generaly just greedy. The thought of losing that 10,000 veldspar an hour and fitting a dcu is incomprehendable. Enjoy losing your ships more :P as already said, mining barges don't count for this hulkageddon, so a covetor would be just left alone. I see a very easy and obvious way to not get targetted in just that. Or alternatively..... and call me crazy if you like...... <.< >.> <.< Do something else for a week :O
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2010.01.07 12:32:00 - [72] Originally by: Swalesey Do something else for a week :O Because we all know that its going to stop after the 14th right? What happened to my AF boost?
Swalesey Prosperity Through Violence	Posted - 2010.01.07 12:39:00 - [73] Edited by: Swalesey on 07/01/2010 12:39:48 Originally by: Lana Torrin Originally by: Swalesey Do something else for a week :O Because we all know that its going to stop after the 14th right? shh!, you'll ruin the surprise :P EDIT: Damn 5 minute posting rule that's what's REALY ruining eve.
Major RoadAhead	Posted - 2010.01.07 12:40:00 - [74] "Mining with friends" isn't a defence against SUICIDE gankers. Spot the BIG clue why that is so. There's only so much tank you can put on a hulk. Sure, you can survive a lone ganker no problem but a gang? I don't think so. Sure, you can watch local and align but there isn't a lot you can do when you've been BM'd and a gang warps in right on top of you. Just to say, I'm not really a miner. I do mine occasionally but only some of what I need if I don't really want to concentrate on Eve. I have no opinion about anyone that gets their kicks from hulk griefing, I wouldn't tell them how they should play and I wouldn't expect them to be telling me either. I think you dudes should go pop hulks if that makes you feel better and stop handing out the worthless advice as though you feel the need to justify it. You don't. Just do what you want.
Swalesey Prosperity Through Violence	Posted - 2010.01.07 12:48:00 - [75] Originally by: Major RoadAhead "Mining with friends" isn't a defence against SUICIDE gankers. Spot the BIG clue why that is so. There's only so much tank you can put on a hulk. Sure, you can survive a lone ganker no problem but a gang? I don't think so. Sure, you can watch local and align but there isn't a lot you can do when you've been BM'd and a gang warps in right on top of you. Just to say, I'm not really a miner. I do mine occasionally but only some of what I need if I don't really want to concentrate on Eve. I have no opinion about anyone that gets their kicks from hulk griefing, I wouldn't tell them how they should play and I wouldn't expect them to be telling me either. I think you dudes should go pop hulks if that makes you feel better and stop handing out the worthless advice as though you feel the need to justify it. You don't. Just do what you want. Ok so you have obviously put no thought into this what so ever. how about your friend or alt sits with you in a logistics ship and reps you. Thus making your already tanked hulk into a tanking god. How about people mine in same belt spread out. and have a couple of logis in fleet everyone on watch list and watching for undesireables. there you have the premmise of teamwork.
Scarry Peak	Posted - 2010.01.07 12:56:00 - [76] Edited by: Scarry Peak on 07/01/2010 13:00:23 Originally by: Kessiaan It's only ruining hte game for people who couldn't be arsed to pay attention at all during the weeks of warning they got, and can't comprehend shipping down to a Covetor for a week. You know... I'm a care-bear, sometimes distracted from keyboard miner and I have some queries/points to share: 1) When I am at work (and not at home, mining on PC while tippety tapping on my laptop) I read the forums during lunch. Including Crime and Punishment. Handy carebear tip - Good for HAG II warnings. Also great for tips like "I'm an industrialist and I haven't any PVP skillz, what do I do if I get decc-ed".. (btw Answer? Ask for help from PVP pals to train as a tackler for them, or to train as covops and a scout... oooh look... handy new skill for me to learn in eve, Yay, team me.) 2) Can I financially lose my hulk, just now? No. Can I buy a covetor and tank, and fit to get SOME semi-afk mining? why YES... and it's only for a week, and I can always SELL the thing or keep it for the next HAG. 3) Can I do other stuff in Eve? Why yes, yes I can. 4) Will I risk my Covetor during HAG II? Well maybe - I DO have to run to the store for some Mex and i did opt for the protection scam just in case these wascally piewats were being ... gasp... "honest" 5) Oh... but can I get that Mex in any other forms in Eve... why Yes, yes I can! Because let's face it - Minerals aren't free... they have a value, yes yes even if you DO mine it yourself! 6) Will I go back to carebear mining after HAG II even though I might be at risk when I undock - well yes, of course... I have a shiney covetor to send out now when I am distracted and then a hulk to switch to when I am more able to pay attention to the other screen. Yay team me! 7) Will I use SOME of the useful tips re: tanking, alingnment, and advice to protect me from non HAG losses... why Yes. Wow - look at that - the BAD guys helped me be a better fitter of my ships. TL;DR? Has it ruined the game for me? Well I afforded myself a and worked out on my fingers and toes what I wouldn't be able to sell in the 3 days (well more now with all this damn snow) I wouldn't be out mining while working... but really - what's the diff between this week, and a week's holiday away from a computer? I don't recall feeling agitated about 14 days lost mining when I was off watching tennis for a couple of weeks, or out of the country on hols! So why would I be agitated now? I grew a pair, docked my main's hulk, switched down a ship size, and looked at my "list of other sh*t to do in Eve when I get time" and started on that.
Quinn Tokimeki Caldari NOVA TECH	Posted - 2010.01.07 13:02:00 - [77] I'm loving hulkageddon2... I'm an Industrialist and Mission runner, I admit I am care bear (in another life I was a flashing red low sec bad-ass, but those days are behind me). I have always loved when people subvert the games defined "acceptable" behaviour. Goons and the original Privateers always earned a special place in my heart. I think its the complaints of people that should know better that I enjoy the most... you can't run crying to your daddy (read: CCP) when the bigger boy hits you after his been telling you his going to come get you for the last week! Why go play in the park if you knew he'd be there! Keep up the attack guys, I'll enjoy reaping the rewards of higher sell price for my ships and minerals next week (This is my own opinion, and does not reflect the views of my Corp) ---- The 3 steps to success: Mining, ?, Profit.
Swalesey Prosperity Through Violence	Posted - 2010.01.07 13:05:00 - [78] On a seperate note, 189 exhumers destroyed so far. good work guys and girls lol
Seralder	Posted - 2010.01.07 13:08:00 - [79] Edited by: Seralder on 07/01/2010 13:08:47 yeah, bot look that hulks: 4k - 6k hp... lol... whats wrong with the hulk pilots? the best was 1 hulk in 1.0 systems: 2,202 hp looool
Cobra5665 Caldari miner embarissment	Posted - 2010.01.07 13:09:00 - [80] Edited by: Cobra5665 on 07/01/2010 13:09:53 hulkageddon has good sides to it, it gets rid of all the afk miners and bots. seriously im a mission runner and industrialist and will be hopefully joining the carnage too. end of the day there are plenty of other stuff to do than mine. you don't complain to ccp when you get war decked and lose your exumer because of it . i see it as more fun than griefing btw whats the biggest count so far kills in one suicide gank run

Shade Millith International House of PWNCakes	Posted - 2010.01.07 13:09:00 - [81] Originally by: Major RoadAhead "Mining with friends" isn't a defence against SUICIDE gankers. Spot the BIG clue why that is so. There's only so much tank you can put on a hulk. Sure, you can survive a lone ganker no problem but a gang? I don't think so. Sure, you can watch local and align but there isn't a lot you can do when you've been BM'd and a gang warps in right on top of you. Just to say, I'm not really a miner. I do mine occasionally but only some of what I need if I don't really want to concentrate on Eve. I have no opinion about anyone that gets their kicks from hulk griefing, I wouldn't tell them how they should play and I wouldn't expect them to be telling me either. I think you dudes should go pop hulks if that makes you feel better and stop handing out the worthless advice as though you feel the need to justify it. You don't. Just do what you want. Wanna defence? Use a covetor. Dunno really, but seems like the smart choice. vOv --------------------------------------------
JitaPriceChecker2	Posted - 2010.01.07 13:09:00 - [82] Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 07/01/2010 13:09:54 How about organizing MAURADERageddon. How many ships is required to bring one down ? CCP dont want to nerf lvl4 we can do it .
Cliffy Byro	Posted - 2010.01.07 13:11:00 - [83] Originally by: Rannarl Originally by: Cliffy Byro Cheese with your Whine sir? STFU its a sandbox, we can do what we like. yeah problem there is the game mechanics don't make it very easy for the miners or their corps to fight back and you're insanely nieve if you think EVE is a complete free-for-all sandbox. Cheese with your Whine sir? STFU, get some friends to protect your stupid ass, Game mechanics are very much in place to help you. Its called the overview, local channel and the warp to button.
Seralder	Posted - 2010.01.07 13:14:00 - [84] Edited by: Seralder on 07/01/2010 13:15:24 doh: wake up hulk pilots!!! no med slots... nothing :D
Cobra5665 Caldari miner embarissment	Posted - 2010.01.07 13:19:00 - [85] Originally by: Seralder Edited by: Seralder on 07/01/2010 13:15:24 doh: wake up hulk pilots!!! no med slots... nothing :D easy kill for hulkageddon then ^^
Bryan Xon NPC Miners League	Posted - 2010.01.07 14:00:00 - [86] Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2 Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 07/01/2010 13:09:54 How about organizing MAURADERageddon. How many ships is required to bring one down ? CCP dont want to nerf lvl4 we can do it . I don't have max skills, but my Golem has about 80-100k EHP vs. Guristas, so a gang of tempests with em or exp damage would need to do around 50 or 60k more or less. It's a definite possibility, although it will take a bit more work on the gankers' part. Or you could skip the suicide and use Paul Clavet's baiting tactics. That works quite well against a surprising number of mission runners. There is no such thing as overkill. There is only "open fire", and "reload".
Lucas Lucias	Posted - 2010.01.07 14:04:00 - [87] Quote: Ok so you have obviously put no thought into this what so ever. how about your friend or alt sits with you in a logistics ship and reps you. Thus making your already tanked hulk into a tanking god. How about people mine in same belt spread out. and have a couple of logis in fleet everyone on watch list and watching for undesireables. there you have the premmise of teamwork. We had a good look at doing this and decided that there was no way to defend the Hulk as we had to let the Gankers get a first shot in on the Hulk, there was no way within the mechanics of High Sec that we could stop the targetting of the Hulk or take out the attackers before hand. So working it back in terms of ISK we decided that there was no value in it even for fun, it was too loaded against us. But then again a couple of miners are going to mine anyway, so I will act like a sheep dog with my main, woof woof.
Ran Khanon Amarr The Phantom Acolytes	Posted - 2010.01.07 14:16:00 - [88] Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2 Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 07/01/2010 13:09:54 How about organizing MAURADERageddon. How many ships is required to bring one down ? CCP dont want to nerf lvl4 we can do it . Yeah, or a "Peveegeddon" in general. Only requirement for the kill-mails being that one or more mission npc's should be involved parties. Pretty much a highsec mission runner myself for most of the time but that is bound to make it a little more exciting :> Please re-size your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2010.01.07 14:23:00 - [89] Originally by: Ran Khanon Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2 Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 07/01/2010 13:09:54 How about organizing MAURADERageddon. How many ships is required to bring one down ? CCP dont want to nerf lvl4 we can do it . Yeah, or a "Peveegeddon" in general. Only requirement for the kill-mails being that one or more mission npc's should be involved parties. Pretty much a highsec mission runner myself for most of the time but that is bound to make it a little more exciting :> Waiting to get ganked is exiting? Really? You sure have low standards and are easy to please. You might actually enjoy 0.0 tbh if you want to be ganked when making isk. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Lubomir Penev Dark Nexxus	Posted - 2010.01.07 14:24:00 - [90] Originally by: Lucas Lucias Quote: Ok so you have obviously put no thought into this what so ever. how about your friend or alt sits with you in a logistics ship and reps you. Thus making your already tanked hulk into a tanking god. How about people mine in same belt spread out. and have a couple of logis in fleet everyone on watch list and watching for undesireables. there you have the premmise of teamwork. We had a good look at doing this and decided that there was no way to defend the Hulk as we had to let the Gankers get a first shot in on the Hulk, there was no way within the mechanics of High Sec that we could stop the targetting of the Hulk or take out the attackers before hand. So working it back in terms of ISK we decided that there was no value in it even for fun, it was too loaded against us. But then again a couple of miners are going to mine anyway, so I will act like a sheep dog with my main, woof woof. Tip: Many of the suicide gankers are outlaws and will come from lowsec. A single frigate with 3 mids (one sensor booster, 2 disruptors) on the most likely gate they'll use (the one leading to lowsec) can stop them right at the gate (you don't need guns, the faction police will deal with them, they do ok dps just fail at tackling). Stopping them in the belt is a bit too late. Why two disruptors? A gank squad is likely to be a pack of destroyers, catching two should reduce the dps enough, or of something bigger of which they likely don't have two in excess. If you want to make money of hulkageddon staying near concentrations of exhumers in say a triple sensor boosted thrasher to catch pods of the outlaws being concordoken could be profitable. -- 081014 : emoragequit, char transfered to a friend, 090317 : back to original owner blog



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