I don't understand any of that OP in any way shape or form.

How much did all that software set you back?

Nothing, he stole it.

Not quite, PoseRay, POV Ray, and TriExporter are all free, Auto CAD and Maya are free to students studying a remotely relevant course)

Not quite, PoseRay, POV Ray, and TriExporter are all free, Auto CAD and Maya are free to students (studying a remotely relevant course)

EDIT: @OP read the .red files, they tell you the exact colours, specular curves etc. used on each ship model, dunno about chars though. There are also many guides on teh interwebs on how to extract models from EVE into 3DS Max, Blender, Maya etc.

EDIT 2: THIS was made using something called 3D Ripper DX, never used it myself, but looks like it might be worth checking out.

Once I have the thing in maya I can handle it from their.

First things first... Learn to differentiate there from their. Come back when you do that and I'll help you with Maya.

Just discovered that despite what google says, .Rpf files CAN NOT be opened with AUTO CAD 2013.

My dreams of having Xenuria meet Max Payne are crushed!
CRUSHED!

We were going to fight crime together!

Well a quick google says that its either Autodesk Combustion or 3ds Max that you want, not AutoCAD (which really is a 2D program rather than 3D)

Well,I tried searching on the topic for quite a bit. It sounds interesting.

This is what I found about the 'rage package file' type : http://openiv.com/frequently-asked-questions

It says in there that they can edit assets from GTA 4, but goes on to say they can edit .rpf files specifically. They quote 3DS as an example but I'm more of a Maya user. I doubt they will release it as public domain or not just yet, anyways. You could try writing to them and ask them if they would be willing.

Cheers.

Nothing, he stole it.

http://i.imgur.com/zstab.png

BEHOLD!

I seem... to have done something wrong..

Rotation and positioning seem to be perfect.
I assumed that capsule_ngs was a bump map and it turned out I was right.
However the color and wet look of the pod was not working out right. I used the final texture file "capsule_o" as a specular shader and that made it look sorta alright but as you can see its still not right.

I highly doubt he ran into a Best Buy or Fry's and stole a bunch of boxes of software. It's much more likely he pirated it, and pirating is NOT stealing. With stealing there is a loss, with pirating there is no loss (besides the false assumed loss of sale). If I were to steal your car, you are out a car and I got a new car. If I were to pirate your album you still have your album and now I have it as well. Not arguing the morality of pirating here, just saying there's a big difference between theft and piracy. Just saying.

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Rendering_EVE_Models_101

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw18CzYzJvg

Now this is for blender and gimp. make note of the textures structure, the changes are not too drastic from ngs to pgs.


Somehting I did messing with the specular layer of the Drake. Drake with some red

well the most important part of that guide imo is breaking apart the graphics files that CCP has built. Though I am not a CG student so I have no knowledge of Maya as for me it would cost thousands without Piracy... and while I have no issues Pirating, I tend to use Blender since it is free and no fear of a copyright troll lawsuit.

I would actually take the time to READ in the Triexporter thread instead of creating yet another thread begging for someone to do this for you, and then criticizing others for being too lazy to figure it out themselves.

The principles for textures are relatively the same across 3D programs unless you're working with Crysis, UDK, Unity or some other game rendering engine, which you're not.

As said, there are many video guides on youtube, including mine, and while the actual applications vary, the concepts are the same. I plan on updating my 101 series this weekend due to the significant changes introduced in the latest patch to Minmatar ships.

Learn a bit about Maya first and about what the different channels in your material mean, then follow up with trying to get it from EVE into Maya.

I'm a C4D user and while I can't claim to know it all, I know enough to:

A. Ask for help in the right places
B. Try on my own, using many of the guides out there
C. Listen to what others say the first time, in order that they might have half an interest in continuing to help me

sex

The last time I used maya professionally was when it was called maya 6.
I was 15 and at a community college putting **** on everything with the sculpt tool. When I wasen't doing that I was making some seriously cool stuff.

Honestly my memory is foggy and maya has obviously changed somewhat since then. I said before that I would be more than happy to pay somebody to make an accurate up to date guide for me and anybody else that wants it.

Edit: also I HAVE looked at guides...
ALL of them are outdated or inaccurate.

I always liked you :3

*swoon

Its 3am and I'm notoriously **** with english at this time, but I'll quickly tell you what to do for PGS textured objects (this will not be the same for NGS textures)

0) Download an old version of the client that uses .red files to control what a ship looks like in game (these can be opened in a text editor) so that you know what base colours to use on your textures and texture masks. .Black files have replaced .red files but I have no idea how you read these.

1) Remember to always flip textures horizontally before you extract any channels or save a completed texture; when saving do so as a 24bit targa using the highest quality mipmap available from the .dds file.

2) Diffuse texture - ????_d.dds

3) Normal map - ????_n.dds, move the Green Channel to the red, Move the Alpha channel to the Green, delete the alpha channel before you save as a targa file.

4) Specular map - ????_pgs.dds, green channel

5) Self Ilumination Texture/ Light Map - ????_pgs.dds, alpha channel
5b) Make sure to check the lightmap to see if it has any tertiarty masks in it, you can tell because there will be solid white shaped that do not look like either lights or engine parts. You can either extract these yourself from the light maps and make into their own masks which are needed for certain ships that require actual geometry maskins (like the rifter sticky out bits, or the apocolypse) or you can set these up in your shader if you know how and the objects UVs are still intact.

6) Mask - ????_pgs.dds, Red channel, invert the texture before saving as a targa file

7) Submask - ????_pgs.dds, Blue Channel

8) Use composite maps instead of straight texture files, with atleast 3 layers in your composite map to account for the different effects. For example your diffuse texture setup is made up of 3 different hierarchical texture layers each with their own masks as shown below:

Example Diffuse Setup:
Layer 3: Texture: diffuse.tga with colour ramping to match .red file values under "submask" + Mask: submask.tga
Layer 2: Texture: diffuse.tga with colour ramping to match .red file values under "mask" + Mask: mask.tga
Later 1: Texture: diffuse.tga with colour ramping and no mask


9) When reading the .red files from old client files (.black files that are used now are currently unreadable) multiply the values found by 100, and apply colours to each of the texture layer in each of your composite maps. Depending on how you setup your shader or what program you use, you may or may not be able to use all the variables found in a .red file.

10) Save the whole scene and material setup without making any changes to any variables.

11) Play with the shaders and your setup manually to get desired results. DX shaders tend to look the most similar to ingame and have the added benefit of actually using your video card and will rasterise in real time (if you gpu is any good). However you will most likely be restricted to 3 lights.


Thats all you need to know to get started, but I'd suggest making a script to do all the above for you like I have, it saves a shitload of time.

:)

Hope this is useful for you:

http://cargocollective.com/ThomasM/Eve-2-Unreal-UDK-Ships

This is not a guide about doing everything in Maya...
It is a guide about doing some things in maya and other things in a different program...

The reason why you seperate them is so that you can manually adjust and fix any problems in photoshop easily, which you will get with the quality of some ships. You don't have to seperate them, but I do.

The textures are plugged into the obvious places :3 you should be able to figure it out.

Goodluck.

I don't know where to plug them into maya. Like I said, I used maya professionally years ago..
With the pod I put the diffuse as the base color of the phong material and the bump map in the bump map slot.

But the long rectangle of yellow and green dosent seem to fit anywhere..

Sure I am starting small with a pod, But eventually I NEED to get a fully rigged character model into maya and so far the guides only show how to get the models in not the textures...

Another one bites the dust.

Maybe at some point people who actually have the information I seek will start posting in this thread. People like you just keep posting the same outdated information over and over again.

Another one bites the dust.

Maybe at some point people who actually have the information I seek will start posting in this thread. People like you just keep posting the same outdated information over and over again.

It's not outdated, THIS (made in 3ds Max 2012) was my first attempt at using a .red file as a guide, it took all of half an hour and I dare say it turned out fairly good (needs better lighting, but it was more of a proof of concept than anything else)

All I did was export the files, open them up in GIMP, flip them vertically, separate the channels and save the channels to separate files (diffuse, specular, bump etc. ) modify the colour of the diffuse maps as per the .red file, invert the mask that needs inverting, apply them to the model using a blend material and tweak the specular values until it looks right.

Is my method the best? No, not by a long, long way. But it is pretty simple and it works, and you know what? I figured most of it out by my self (once I actually learned what diffuse, specular, mask and all that actually meant I really was -and still am- a total noob).

EDIT: Thanks to the others who have posted, some good stuff here.

Sorry, I was really stressed out when I typed that.
I am still really bummed out that I can't open .rpf files, but that is a separate issue. I may just have to change some of the content for my CSM 8 promotional videos if I can't get the max payne 3 models to extract.

Xenuria...

Its not outdated information, I use it every day and have done for the last 6 years or so I've been playing (and not playing) eve. While the following aren't the best examples as they're not supposed to look like they do in the game, they were all done using the method I described earlier

http://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s260/MrOosterman/facebookpropaganda1.jpg
http://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s260/MrOosterman/facebookpropaganda2.jpg
http://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s260/MrOosterman/facebookpropaganda3.jpg
http://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s260/MrOosterman/facebookpropaganda4.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s260/MrOosterman/ponyclub.png