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Fraller S	Posted - 2010.01.07 18:16:00 - [1] Im thinking of trying the Caldari Navy Hookbill for solo/small gang pvp. Im using crow/hawk allready for that, thought it might be fun to try a Hookbill, so im looking for some tech II fittings, thx.
CrazySpaceHobo Caldari Mysterys Inc.	Posted - 2010.01.07 20:04:00 - [2] I quite like my Dual MSE fit, plenty of buffer for solo, and when the inevitable OMGZFACTIONSHOOTITNOWPRIMARY in small gang warfare. [Caldari Navy Hookbill, Dual-MSE Buffer] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I 1MN Afterburner II Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Duchess Starbuckington	Posted - 2010.01.07 22:22:00 - [3] Sell it and buy a decent ship. _________________________________
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2010.01.07 22:34:00 - [4] Originally by: CrazySpaceHobo I quite like my Dual MSE fit, plenty of buffer for solo, and when the inevitable OMGZFACTIONSHOOTITNOWPRIMARY in small gang warfare. [Caldari Navy Hookbill, Dual-MSE Buffer] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I 1MN Afterburner II Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I Imo, I would either fit it as dual prop, or dual web. Dual web Hookbill kills minny AFs easy at least, and Intys, and most other frigs.
Andrea Griffin	Posted - 2010.01.07 22:49:00 - [5] Edited by: Andrea Griffin on 07/01/2010 22:49:36 Originally by: Lindsay Logan Imo, I would either fit it as dual prop, or dual web. Dual web Hookbill kills minny AFs easy at least, and Intys, and most other frigs. Is this how you would fit your dual-web, Lindsay? Or do you have something different? [Caldari Navy Hookbill, Dual Web] Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Warp Scrambler II 1MN Afterburner II Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2010.01.07 22:56:00 - [6] Originally by: Andrea Griffin Edited by: Andrea Griffin on 07/01/2010 22:49:36 Originally by: Lindsay Logan Imo, I would either fit it as dual prop, or dual web. Dual web Hookbill kills minny AFs easy at least, and Intys, and most other frigs. Is this how you would fit your dual-web, Lindsay? Or do you have something different? [Caldari Navy Hookbill, Dual Web] Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Warp Scrambler II 1MN Afterburner II Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I Pretty much, except I'd go for MWD, and probartly Aux Core to support it. Hookbill does 3000+ m/s with MWD, and thats nice. I am a fan of fleeting webs for more strenght, but X5 work as well. T2 MSE is also nice if you got the skills.
Andrea Griffin	Posted - 2010.01.08 04:04:00 - [7] Cool, thanks for the information. Always interesting to see what other people do with these updated ships.
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2010.01.08 10:09:00 - [8] Originally by: Andrea Griffin Cool, thanks for the information. Always interesting to see what other people do with these updated ships. All in all the Hookbill got a nice idea behind it, only downside is the low CPU forcing you to use lots of named expencive modules. One thing about the dual web version is that it helps to make the rockets apply full dps. I, for one, enjoy the hookbill, it is great agianst other frigats, but you might want to avoid ishkurs in particular, they can be quit leathal, and need lots of player skill to handle in a good safe way. Not impossible to kill, just gotta keep your toung straight, use 1 web to kite and 1 to kill the drones asap.
Belle Tristesse	Posted - 2010.01.08 10:52:00 - [9] Been having good fun in mine. No eft to hand but off the top of my head: 3xRLii w/thorn rage C-type burner, fleetingx2, faint 20k, MSEii BCUii, Nanoii ACR, EM, Therm Kills frigs nice, also fast enough to engage most cruisers and GTFO if needed.
Gun Grimm	Posted - 2010.01.08 12:57:00 - [10] Unfortunately not every faction ship can be a WTFSOLOPWNMOBILE. Look at the bonuses, and then realise why youre wasting the ship with rockets on it. Seems it might make a good Sniperhac gang/small gang support ship. [Caldari Navy Hookbill, Support] Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II Small Shield Extender II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I Phased Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters TE-2100 Standard Missile Bay, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile TE-2100 Standard Missile Bay, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile TE-2100 Standard Missile Bay, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I Locks at 76km with a scan res of 1200+, The standard missiles volley for around 650 damage at up to 71km (more with better projection/velocity skills) with a velocity of over 9500m/s. Should certainly deter cheeky tacklers, and catch any stray pods. With scan res scripts has a res of over 1800, and carries a point. A good small fast locker for gatecamps. 3500m/s, 2.9s align time.

Lugalzagezi666	Posted - 2010.01.08 13:02:00 - [11] Originally by: Gun Grimm Seems it might make a good Sniperhac gang/small gang support ship. No.
Prof Pain SmokingGuns Corp	Posted - 2010.01.08 13:57:00 - [12] Originally by: Gun Grimm Look at the bonuses, and then realise why youre wasting the ship with rockets on it. seems to work for rockets too. at least thats what eft says. can someone check, who is not at work?
Gun Grimm	Posted - 2010.01.08 14:10:00 - [13] Yes it works for rockets too, but its akin to dropping blasters on a ship that gets an optimal bonus. Really quite a minimal benefit in that respect. This would shine as a small gang support that can maintain high velocity and transversal without worring about tracking, and retains the ability to deal identical damage at any range 0-70km. There are better ships for getting up close and personal with.
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2010.01.08 14:12:00 - [14] Originally by: Prof Pain Originally by: Gun Grimm Look at the bonuses, and then realise why youre wasting the ship with rockets on it. seems to work for rockets too. at least thats what eft says. can someone check, who is not at work? It applies to rockets. And imo this ship is wasted with SMLs since you gain no tank. Want SML ship? Use Caracal with AMLs, cheaper and better. Hookbill is nifty, tho it has severe design flaws wrt CPU. I have used the dual web variant (use MWD! AB is simply too slow and will fail you.). 20km point is nifty, but I have used 9km due to CPU again. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Lubomir Penev Dark Nexxus	Posted - 2010.01.08 16:26:00 - [15] Originally by: Lindsay Logan Dual web Hookbill kills minny AFs easy at least, and Intys, and most other frigs. It's too slow to catch it so you rely one a minnie AF entering web range, which reduce the choice to AC Jaguar. Arty fit will be out of web range for both AF as well as AC Wolf. -- 081014 : emoragequit, char transfered to a friend, 090317 : back to original owner blog
Proxyyyy Caldari The Tuskers	Posted - 2010.01.08 17:28:00 - [16] Im not guuna get into the whole "ab's suck argument" because its not worth it and would like everyone to believe it so ill have a cont. advantage in null and low sec... After having such success with my Rocket hookbill i kinda started to fit sml's on it. Infact i have regulated most my caldari ships to only being in fleets because they have no equal in that role! Plus! I was getting ****d by a griffin and hookbill combo in my firetail when i first encounterd a Sml/hookbill. The hookbill fired standard missile that was doing alot of damage to my mse firetail. The hookbill is full of surprises and while i dont solo in it anymore my corp mates do along with are newly redone rocket vengeance... This was the firetail v hookbill/Griffin fight! Check the hookbill setup btw very intresting... http://tuskers.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=5348609 This is my new standard hookbill fit that can solo because its speed but i have relegated it to fleet work... [Caldari Navy Hookbill, Navy Hookbill] Co-Processor II Damage Control II Micro Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25 1MN MicroWarpdrive I Small Shield Booster II Warp Disruptor II Target Painter II Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Small Ancillary Current Router I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Venetos	Posted - 2010.01.08 17:38:00 - [17] Originally by: Lubomir Penev Originally by: Lindsay Logan Dual web Hookbill kills minny AFs easy at least, and Intys, and most other frigs. It's too slow to catch it so you rely one a minnie AF entering web range, which reduce the choice to AC Jaguar. Arty fit will be out of web range for both AF as well as AC Wolf. Com-on... If you cannot web an AC Wolf in a frig hull, you fail! Also wolfs fitting disruptors instead of scrams are not that common, and the same goes for artie Jags...most ppl AC fit them for a reason.
Lubomir Penev Dark Nexxus	Posted - 2010.01.08 18:55:00 - [18] Originally by: Venetos Com-on... If you cannot web an AC Wolf in a frig hull, you fail! Also wolfs fitting disruptors instead of scrams are not that common, and the same goes for artie Jags...most ppl AC fit them for a reason. AC Wolf operate perfectly well far out of web range. I flew a 2 TE wolf recently, the changes to projectiles and TE gave it an awesome range. And a Wolf is still faster than most frig hulls, and those that are actually faster are usually shredded fast unless it's a Jaguar. 22km falloff with AC on a frig hull, it can really be flown like a Vaga nowadays. e.g. a Crusader that was running from me died at something like 32km, the range is now that good. -- 081014 : emoragequit, char transfered to a friend, 090317 : back to original owner blog
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2010.01.08 19:16:00 - [19] Edited by: Lindsay Logan on 08/01/2010 19:18:02 Originally by: Lubomir Penev Originally by: Lindsay Logan Dual web Hookbill kills minny AFs easy at least, and Intys, and most other frigs. It's too slow to catch it so you rely one a minnie AF entering web range, which reduce the choice to AC Jaguar. Arty fit will be out of web range for both AF as well as AC Wolf. Fortunalty most minni frigs engage me . And there are also a good few AB frigs out there still. But 3000 m/s un-overloaded Hookbill maks reaching targets fairly easy actually, might not get some Intys but I certanly get many AFs. And not only minni ships, most others as well, but I like exploiting minni kinetic weakness and laugh at their ****iness. So just stating its too slow is kinda wrong, overloading in the rigt moment makes it easy, but it comes down to player skill. I usually have easier times killing wolfs actually, and teh ammount or Arfy AFs out there is very low. Yet at any rate.
Fraller S	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:07:00 - [20] How about his one? [Small gang, dual web] Overdrive Injector System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II 1MN MicroWarpdrive I Medium Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Rocket Launcher II,Thorn Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II,Thorn Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II,Thorn Rage Rocket Small Ancillary Current Router I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Goes 4000+ m/s

Forge Lag Jita Lag Preservation Fund	Posted - 2010.01.10 02:49:00 - [21] All good I see about the ship is tackler with 5 mids. Now the question is do we want 5 mids or are 4 awesome enough? "Real men play badminton, deep diving is for pussies." PvP 13373P33K unscrambled
Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2010.01.10 10:16:00 - [22] Five meds is great... if you have the CPU to use them.


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