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Axearm Thunk'um	Posted - 2010.01.07 22:04:00 - [1] I'm trying to decide if I should go for these skills. They don't unlocking anything and at 18 and 19 days respectively I feel like I could spent a month on something more useful (recon 5 or drone interfacing 5). Thoughts?
McRoll Minmatar Heatseekers	Posted - 2010.01.07 22:13:00 - [2] I have exactly the same problem. I guess its better to get all the ships to V first, which you like to fly. All the core skills like tanking, other support skills, navigation and drones to good levels as well. Maybe then surgical strike if you want that little bit more alpha. But those skills are pretty low on my priority list, the biggest problem is that as minmatar, you have to skill way more **** than other races so it has to wait.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.01.07 23:19:00 - [3] Originally by: Axearm Thunk'um I'm trying to decide if I should go for these skills. They don't unlocking anything and at 18 and 19 days respectively I feel like I could spent a month on something more useful (recon 5 or drone interfacing 5). Thoughts? I would definitely get Recon V and Drone Interfacing V first (indeed I did), but if you're spending most of your time in turret ships, then eventually you'll want SS 5. Free DPS is free DPS.
ArmyOfMe The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2010.01.08 18:09:00 - [4] ss5 first since it will boost the effect on all your turret ships, then do whatever skills u want really.
Kurfin	Posted - 2010.01.09 16:56:00 - [5] Nice to have, but shouldn't be high up your list of priorities. Trajectory analysis lvl 5 is particularly hard to justify for those not using projectiles, until you really are running out of useful skills to train.
Kessiaan Minmatar Final Agony	Posted - 2010.01.09 17:22:00 - [6] Edited by: Kessiaan on 09/01/2010 17:23:21 Originally by: Kurfin Nice to have, but shouldn't be high up your list of priorities. Trajectory analysis lvl 5 is particularly hard to justify for those not using projectiles, until you really are running out of useful skills to train. Trajectory Analysis V actually boosted my neutron mega quite a bit - it's slow as **** so I use Null almost all the time and most of the things I'm shooting at are in falloff. With Trajectory Analysis V it outdamages Tempests and Armageddons regularly when the target is below 25kms.
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2010.01.12 13:34:00 - [7] Originally by: Kessiaan Edited by: Kessiaan on 09/01/2010 17:23:21 Originally by: Kurfin Nice to have, but shouldn't be high up your list of priorities. Trajectory analysis lvl 5 is particularly hard to justify for those not using projectiles, until you really are running out of useful skills to train. Trajectory Analysis V actually boosted my neutron mega quite a bit - it's slow as ** so I use Null almost all the time and most of the things I'm shooting at are in falloff. With Trajectory Analysis V it outdamages Tempests and Armageddons regularly when the target is below 25kms. It does help the neutron mega, but range is still range, no matter if +5% falloff. If you really want to get more range out of the Mega at 20+, try 350's with close range setup - though you will have to pimp it a bit to make it fit and you will need 3 mag stabs to be competitive ... not to mention that flying it is a bit of a *** due to tracking issues that may pop up. For the OP, TA 5 is pretty nice to have. Especially if you are minnie specced but also if you are Amarr/Gallente. However if there is a choice between TA and Surgical Strike, there is no doubt what the choice is, SS all the way. --- I smack just for myself. Allow faction cap boosters to be traded via normal market !
Qui Shon	Posted - 2010.01.13 08:28:00 - [8] The way I see it, if I'm using blasters in such a way as to benefit noticeably from TA 5, then...why am I using blasters? The guy above said he regularly outdamages a Geddon under 25km, using Null, but, I have a hard time believing this reflects the blasters performance, and would be more inclined to believe the Geddon pilot simply isn't doing it right. I would get Surgical Strike 5, and in fact did on both mains, but only when you don't have anything pressing to train. TA 5, unless you use AC's, I wouldn't bother.
Miriam Sasko Minmatar Matari Exodus	Posted - 2010.01.13 10:01:00 - [9] That said, I'd still do Drone Interfacing 5 first. It helps on more or less all ships you fly, and there are times when drones are suddenly the only dps you can apply, so the extra 20% can be devilishly useful. The named skills, imho: DI > SS > Recon > TA. If you fly recons a lot and no ships like Vagabond or Sleipnir.
Digital Solaris The Water Margin Tech	Posted - 2010.01.13 10:16:00 - [10] I would go first with Recon 5, then Drone Interface 5 and depending on what I would need the most, either Trajectory or Surgical and finish the other after.
Darthewok Perkone	Posted - 2010.01.13 11:46:00 - [11] far as i know it is quite common to train SS5 but quite uncommon to train TA5
Viscount Hood V I R I I Cult of War	Posted - 2010.01.13 13:52:00 - [12] Strangly i'm doing trajectory analysis lvl 5 atm. Only 2 days left. Every little helps.
Passageway Gallente	Posted - 2010.01.13 22:40:00 - [13] In maxing my hybrid skills, just because, I've gone for motion prediction 5, rappid firing 5, sharpshooter 5 and surgical strike 5. I'm pretty sure that was the order I did them in as well. TA is still at 4, and for various reasons will probably stay that way for a while now. Most of my specs are at 3 or 4, with a bias towards rails.
RaTTuS BIG Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2010.01.14 11:26:00 - [14] SS5 -- \| Capital
Baneken Gallente	Posted - 2010.01.15 22:54:00 - [15] Lets put it this way 2% more damage add you a whopping 40dps max assuming you have a say 2000dps to begin with. Think about it whether you really need that extra 40dps so badly that you'll train 19 days for it.
z0de The Bastards The Bastards.	Posted - 2010.01.16 00:27:00 - [16] Originally by: Baneken Lets put it this way 2% more damage add you a whopping 40dps max assuming you have a say 2000dps to begin with. Think about it whether you really need that extra 40dps so badly that you'll train 19 days for it. It's 3% and I'd say its worth it. á á
Yarinor Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.01.16 03:48:00 - [17] Edited by: Yarinor on 16/01/2010 03:48:25 Originally by: z0de Originally by: Baneken Lets put it this way 2% more damage add you a whopping 40dps max assuming you have a say 2000dps to begin with. Think about it whether you really need that extra 40dps so badly that you'll train 19 days for it. It's 3% and I'd say its worth it. 2.7%
Aqriue	Posted - 2010.01.16 06:25:00 - [18] Anyone happen to know why Trajetory Analysis is rank 5? I was under the assumption it was a rank 2 like Controlled Bursts, Motion Prediction, Sharp Shooter, and Rapid Firing until I looked closer today, 3 weeks alone for rank 5 compared to 3 weeks getting all 3 to 5 excluding controlled bursts for projectiles . It seems more like it should be a basic core skill like the other 4 gun skills compared to Surgical Strike which is a damage bonus. Just seems like Minmatar (training Vargur ) are punished more cause they can't decide what they want to do. They already require more skill points to use all ships of a given class with different tanks or weapon skill requirements.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.01.16 10:54:00 - [19] Why is Guided Missile Precision rank 5, when Target Navigation prediction is only Rank 2? It's just one of those things.
Caldose	Posted - 2010.01.17 00:31:00 - [20] I'm finishing up Surgical 5 now, and Trajectory V is done. Both are worth it imho.
RaVeN Revenge	Posted - 2010.01.19 08:47:00 - [21] The thing about those 2 skills is : they max out your gunnery supports . Its nice to know when they're done that you have all supports at 5.Just rotate them in when you get the chance and you wont regret it.

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