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AVampirate Legend
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Posted - 2010.01.11 10:50:00 -
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I have been playing EvE nonstop for the 3 and half years and its starting to lose its luster, so I've decided to cut down from 4 accounts to just 1, my favorite combat main. Ever since I got done with the free trial, I knew one character training wasn't going to be enough for me... I've had atleast two accounts to play Eve, sometimes going as high as 6 when I ran a POS ring or a trade/production business, so its safe to say I've never been too lonely or short on firepower 
But I wonder...
All the times I've scouted for myself, checked prices in multiple regions, cyno'd myself, mission ran for my once outlaw main, mission ran during 0.0 alliance drama, used 2-3 accounts for both mining and mission running, plexing, wormhole exploration,all the way down to dual boxing with the overpowered 220km falcon alt.... all of that not possible by just having a single character logged in. I can almost safetly say that about 75% of my time playing EvE I've had 2 or 3 copies of the client burning away.
Is it even possible to play EvE with one account? 
I've been part of a few fun and well run corps, in both empire space and 0.0, so I know you could just depend on corp/alliance help for certain things (scouting, maybe cyno's if you beg hard enough), but I've found just about the majority of the group PvE activity in the game is less appealing when you have split crappy rewards many ways (and lets be honest, you can only plex or LVL 5 mission run so many times for just enjoyment, you want rewards)
Of everything in Eve I've done and tried, I only want to PvP and I'm happy to join a corp so I can shoot people up. Would a decent 0.0 alliance/corp deal with a capital pilot who can't cyno their own cap, or somebody who can't scout for themself? Is it even worth the hassle?
tl:dr version. Never had just a single account when I played Eve, does anybody have experience going from having 6 accounts to powergame their freetime away, to a playing with just one account.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.01.11 10:54:00 -
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 Originally by: AVampirate Legend
Is it even possible to play EvE with one account?
Yes. How ? It's called "making friends", but you already knew that, at least partially.
Over 75% of the game's population manages just fine with only 1 active account.
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Would a decent 0.0 alliance/corp deal with a capital pilot who can't cyno their own cap, or somebody who can't scout for themself? Is it even worth the hassle?
The larger they are, the less likely it is they would require you to do that all by yourself.
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Florio
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.01.11 10:58:00 -
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I've managed for 5 years with only a single account, but then I don't fly capitals. But I've always thought it would be over-the-top to start another account primarily just for scouting and cyno'ing.
One reason for a single account being good is that you relatively slowly become proficient at different ship classes. So in 5 years I have barely flown any battleship at all and I have that to look forward to. So I feel it has increased the game's longevity for me.
What a single account player will probably need to do at some time, however, is stop training on the main and build up a freighter and transport capable alt, which may take a couple of months perhaps. I would say this is essential in my experience.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.01.11 11:01:00 -
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Always played with one account, one char on it. It is certainly possible, although it can be kinda sucky how useful alts are in eve (I still say eve without alts would be a better eve, yeah i realise there is no way to enforce that and it would cost ccp income).
About scouting, i got relative safe routes to my 0.0 home so dont need scouts normally, but sometimes people want a scout and then usually they get one pretty fast, although yeah sometimes no one is interested in scouting, and even if someone is interested it will take quite some time before they actually can scout for you. (Especially when you go from high sec to your 0.0 home, they will first need to come from 0.0 to high sec before they can scout you back to 0.0. But if you got enough blues you can also wait until you see a blue frig moving same direction and ask if he can scout for you).
About caps, well often in sov 0.0 you can just jump to the pos beacons. Besides that i never have had in my limitted cap experience issues with that, fast enough someone who can put up a cyno.
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari
United Systems Navy
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2010.01.11 11:04:00 -
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A second account for moving around capitals is mandatory really, alliance beacons go a long way but when jumping to empire you still need to cyno into low sec, and its not really fair to keep asking other people to cyno you.
I run two accounts, one the pvp char, and the other the hauler/scout/JF/industry one. But in the times i havent had enough money to keep the second going(and am too stengy to pay plexes) i do just fine with one.
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J'Mkarr Soban
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Posted - 2010.01.11 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: J''Mkarr Soban on 11/01/2010 11:18:24
I've never had a second account, ever. I never found I needed to. As mentioned above, though, I've never flown cap ships - I'm not sure I ever will. All this time I've focussed on mining, then Caldari mission running, now Amarr mission running. I've just finished training Black Ops, which means I can fly any sub-cap Amarr ship with full T2 fitting and maxed support skills. That was a goal I set myself. The next goal is tidying up all the T2 skills for Caldari - ewar, missiles, rails mainly. From there, all I need to do is pick up the frig/cruiser/battleship skills for Gallente/Minmatar, and I'll be able to fly any sub-cap ship in the game, with full support skills and T2 equipment. That's my ultimate goal.
But you're right, that's just a reason to log on. You need more than that, you need a reason to play. For me, that used to be about money. What's the point of being able to fly all these ships if you can't afford them? Admittedly some just act as glorified shuttles in high-sec, so I've got a good solid dozen ships 'just in case' anything happens, I've got something to fall back on. But again, that just means grinding missions, which isn't very interesting.
So I used to socialise on a few channels - lvl4 mainly. But even then, it got a bit meh. Then I started my own corp - I had a new idea that I hadn't heard anyone doing, so I developed that idea, put the ideas down, and started my corp. Then got so bored recruiting a left for a few months  .
Then I decided the best thing was 0.0 - I've been in the game since day one, and I've never really figured it out. I've done everything else available in high sec, so this was something new. I find being in an alliance much more fun because it means there's a closer link than just socialising in a channel, but you've still got the freedom to develop your own corp. Plus it's involved enough that there's incentive for me to explore the parts of the game where I've got the character skills, if not the player skills.
All through this, I've never felt the need to have multiple accounts. Sorry for the random life-history, it's just to show that I've done so much in this game, and seen so much new stuff that none of it has ever made me feel I could only rely on another version of me.
Of course, it could be that I still have the beta/early game mentality where there really was nothing that you needed a second account for - no need to scout, no jumping at all. The only thing might have been for mining, but jet canning is still as popular as ever, even now.
Just give it time, get with a good corp/alliance, don't be afraid to ask for help, and don't be afraid to offer help either! Remember not everyone can afford more than one account, and love any help they can get.
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:21:00 -
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tbh ive never really felt the need for an alt beyond an occasional 'well it would be nice if i could' type situation usually resolved by a word to a corpmate and being willing to wait an hour or two until theyre free. IMO having a closeknit corp with people willing to help each other out trumps any number of anonymous alts. |
randomname4me
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing
its not really fair to keep asking other people to cyno you.
its fair if you pay them.
On the other hand everyone has there own opinion and you can feel free to disagree with my sig.
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McRoll
Minmatar
Heatseekers
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:38:00 -
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1 account 1 char crew reporting. Never had any issues with it and I have more fun playing the game how it actually is supposed to be ( I think) which means making choices of what to skill, what to fly (solo), thinking about security status and standings etc and live with your decisions. Only problem is that I'll never be able to fly caps because you cant without a cyno alt. Maybe some day there will be a redesign or another option to move capitals around solo....
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Bo Bojangles
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:59:00 -
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Still running the one account. Still gettin' hassled by my ceo about it. Still absolutely sure that if I ever change alliances, they'll all assume I'm a spy since I don't have one.
It really shouldn't be so 'almost' required.
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Kyra Felann
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.01.11 23:00:00 -
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I've only had one character on one account for the entire two plus years I've been playing. So, yes, it's certainly possible.
If you're already spoiled from having many, (WTF does anyone need four accounts for?) it might be hard to adjust, though.
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Batolemaeus
Caldari
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.01.11 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: randomname4me
Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing
its not really fair to keep asking other people to cyno you.
its fair if you pay them.
I would never pay someone so twiddle his thumbs for 10 minutes somewhere. No human should be doing that.
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Dex Timor
Forza Di Colpo
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Posted - 2010.01.11 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Batolemaeus
Originally by: randomname4me
Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing
its not really fair to keep asking other people to cyno you.
its fair if you pay them.
I would never pay someone so twiddle his thumbs for 10 minutes somewhere. No human should be doing that.
You mean ... I should quit my job ???
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Myshella Drake
Caldari
V.O.F.L IRON CORE
H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2010.01.12 00:04:00 -
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Going on nearly 4 years now with 1 account and two characters. A Versatile all rounded combat character and a specialized mining and industry character. If there's something that needs 2 or more people, get corpmates. I don't understand how its possible to play with 6 accounts. Normal people generally don't have that much time or money to spend playing with internet spaceships 
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Grapez
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
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Posted - 2010.01.12 00:35:00 -
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1 account for the entirety of my Eve-life (since June 2006), but I can understand why someone would want more than one.
There are a few things that are neigh impossible to get others to do, and thus almost require alts, and they all have to do with how fxcking boring yet important the task is:
1.) Cynoing. You get to sit somewhere and be everyone's pinata for 10 minutes (5 if you feel like losing a really expensive ship). There is literally nothing you can do in this time. Yet, almost no corp of any size can live without someone doing this. How to fix; make "cynoing" a minigame somehow. The person doing to cynoing must perform some relatively easy yet involved task, much like how CCP made probing a type of minigame recently instead of the old "launch probes, warp to" exercise. The task should make it harder for cap pilots to fly their ship while also performing it, and yet it should be beneficial if the cynoing person is particularly good at said task. Rewards could be an increased alignment time for the cap ship's first warp in system, or a reduction in the amount of cap needed for cynoing, or a reduction in the duration in the cyno, or whathaveyou. It would be crazy to one day see dedicated cyno players in Eve, in much the same way that there are dedicated miners and probers.
2.) Mining ore hauler. I don't even know how CCP can fix this. The ore's got to go in a can and the can has to be picked up by someone, and that someone usually is the same someone that's mining. Maybe hauling stuff is just supposed to be boring.
I'm sure there's more, but I'm fried and can't really think right now.
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Adeline Grey
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Posted - 2010.01.12 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: AVampirate Legend
Is it even possible to play EvE with one account?
Yes. How ? It's called "making friends", but you already knew that, at least partially.
Over 75% of the game's population manages just fine with only 1 active account.
Quote:
Would a decent 0.0 alliance/corp deal with a capital pilot who can't cyno their own cap, or somebody who can't scout for themself? Is it even worth the hassle?
The larger they are, the less likely it is they would require you to do that all by yourself.
No, your "friends" don't want to be your ***** and scout for you or cyno for you whenever you need to go somewhere. They are off doing their own thing and won't want to fly 20 jumps to wherever you are or need to go. The idea that corp mates jump up and down to come help with mundane crap like that is a joke.
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Jethro Hawkins
Capital Construction Research
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Posted - 2010.01.12 01:02:00 -
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Do you need multiple accounts: no
Does it help: maybe, I find running three accounts mining helps quite a bit. Of course dual accounting missions works well too.
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sella buya
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Posted - 2010.01.12 01:35:00 -
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1 account should be fine...in fact it makes it more interesting, as there are more challenges.
...having more than 1 character is another question though. I'm an ALT for purposes of forum posting and an occasional price check
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Liang Nuren
The Lollypop Factory
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Posted - 2010.01.12 01:41:00 -
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IMO, the extra value from your second account is immense. The third and fourth are marginal. Fifth and beyond are more hassle than it's worth unless you're into some extremely specialized stuff (spying is a good example). In my experience, accounts beyond the second tend to become much less useful once you reach a sufficiently high SP investment, since they are primarily used to bypass SP limitations (such as having a Minmatar alt, etc).
I have had as many as 5 accounts, as few as 3, and currently have 4. I plan to close 2 of them soon(ish).
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Xyla Kador
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Posted - 2010.01.12 02:21:00 -
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my main went and ratted in 0.0 completely solo in a one man corp for a week and did fine
I've also been playing since a little after QR and haven't had to pay much unless i forgot to save some ISKies for a PLEX that month lol
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2010.01.12 02:54:00 -
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Over 4 years, 1 account. Only reason I can think of where I would feel I need to have a second account is for cynoing, but I don't even have capitals. I won't even consider having a "scout alt" as that level of metagaming makes me sick, not to mention feeding gate camping lamers killmails does not interest me, even if it's a noob alt.
I have enough combat skills to run missions and PvP effectively, even if not highly specialized in anything (no lvl 5 weapon spec skills for example) and enough industrial skills to build my own ships, rigs and mods at 100% efficiency or refine loot with no waste. I can fly cov ops and scan down anything, set up over 40 market orders and modify them remotely, I run my own corp, can fly most t1 sub-BS ships and have most of my gun and missile support skills maxed so I can easily get into anything I feel like flying with some short training. I'm pretty happy with what I have done with a single character.
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
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MrBinary
Minmatar
Binary Systems
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Posted - 2010.01.12 03:55:00 -
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Originally by: AVampirate Legend
Is it even possible to play EvE with one account?
Yes.
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Pajama Sam
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.01.12 04:21:00 -
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I've done fine with one account so far, save the times I wish I had a cov ops alt to scan stuff for me.
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Letifer Deus
Total Mayhem.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.01.12 04:26:00 -
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I've never had 6 (or even more than 2 accounts) but I played from day 1 of retail up to the end of this last july owning just 1 account, so I would one can, but for you it will be a big adjustment.
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Mister Xerox
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Posted - 2010.01.12 04:42:00 -
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It's doable, but can be severely limiting, to be sure.
I run five but seldom all at the same time. Usually for mining (it's always nice to have an alt hauler) or scouting/cyno, as you mentioned.
Trying to find someone in corp or alliance willing to help out is a PITA.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.01.12 04:55:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 12/01/2010 04:55:23
Originally by: Jethro Hawkins
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No, your "friends" don't want to be your ***** and scout for you or cyno for you whenever you need to go somewhere. They are off doing their own thing and won't want to fly 20 jumps to wherever you are or need to go. The idea that corp mates jump up and down to come help with mundane crap like that is a joke.
This is eve. Don't ask them to help you scout/light cyno's: pay them.
Bingo !
Of course, payment can come in a multitude of forms, anything from the obvious "20 mil for whoever can light be a cyno in system X" or "50 mil per hour to scout ahead of me" to the less obvious "I'll keep replacing your PVP ships when they go boom if you keep doing this and that for me".
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d3vo
Isotope Laboratories
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Posted - 2010.01.12 04:56:00 -
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Originally by: Wet Ferret
Over 4 years, 1 account. Only reason I can think of where I would feel I need to have a second account is for cynoing, but I don't even have capitals. I won't even consider having a "scout alt" as that level of metagaming makes me sick, not to mention feeding gate camping lamers killmails does not interest me, even if it's a noob alt.
I have enough combat skills to run missions and PvP effectively, even if not highly specialized in anything (no lvl 5 weapon spec skills for example) and enough industrial skills to build my own ships, rigs and mods at 100% efficiency or refine loot with no waste. I can fly cov ops and scan down anything, set up over 40 market orders and modify them remotely, I run my own corp, can fly most t1 sub-BS ships and have most of my gun and missile support skills maxed so I can easily get into anything I feel like flying with some short training. I'm pretty happy with what I have done with a single character.
That's how I roll. 
I enjoy looking forward to training new ships and new weapons. I just wonder what will happen in a few years when I've trained everything sub-cap...hmm, new race w/new weapons maybe???
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Mike Takumi
Caldari
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.01.12 06:14:00 -
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Only having 1 account is fun and all, but I love my 13 accounts. They bring me luck (and boatloads of isk)
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Jalif
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Posted - 2010.01.12 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Wet Ferret
Over 4 years, 1 account. Only reason I can think of where I would feel I need to have a second account is for cynoing, but I don't even have capitals. I won't even consider having a "scout alt" as that level of metagaming makes me sick, not to mention feeding gate camping lamers killmails does not interest me, even if it's a noob alt.
I have enough combat skills to run missions and PvP effectively, even if not highly specialized in anything (no lvl 5 weapon spec skills for example) and enough industrial skills to build my own ships, rigs and mods at 100% efficiency or refine loot with no waste. I can fly cov ops and scan down anything, set up over 40 market orders and modify them remotely, I run my own corp, can fly most t1 sub-BS ships and have most of my gun and missile support skills maxed so I can easily get into anything I feel like flying with some short training. I'm pretty happy with what I have done with a single character.
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Mrs Snowman
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Posted - 2010.01.12 10:04:00 -
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It is possible, but not very easy if you want to continue doing the things that your currently doing.
I have two accounts, but they have nothing to do with each other... one is a FW character that just logs on and pops and gets popped for the lulz. The other is more of a 0.0 toon which does more 'corp life' kinda stuff.
Personally I hate switching from screen to screen to do stuff
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