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Keshka Mstislav	Posted - 2010.01.16 04:26:00 - [1] I've been wanting to replace my raven and drake for plexing with something slightly more sturdy and effective for Angels and decided I'd rather use the Nighthawk over the Tengu as the Tengu would run me a much higher pricetag and not something I'd prefer to flash around nullsec. Not to mention the NH has the utility high slot I can fit a probe launcher or cloak in. What I'm unsure of is what the best tank to fit for a NH is, passive or active? I've seen a lot of people suggest either way with small deadspace boosters, or to passive tank it like a drake. What I came up with was the following based on what I understand by flying a drake. A few things to assume: -Level V missile support an HML spec -CS 4 -Shield Skills at V -Trying to keep super-expensive A and X type modules off as this will be in Nullsec and I'd prefer not to be laughed at when I lose it spectacularly Additionally, I made a list of implants I could get via lp store from some leftover mission lp and came up with: -Zainou Gnome KVA1000 - 3% shield capacity -Zainou Gnome KYA1000 - 3% Shield Recharge -Zainou Deadeye ZMM100 - 3% missile launcher RoF Final questions before the fit: 1) Will an AB somewhere help my tank more than a 3rd hardener or LSE? 2) Scourge vs Havoc missiles at CS 4 against Angels? 3) Do I have completely the wrong idea about this ship? [Nighthawk, Angel Plex] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Explosion Dampening Field II Photon Scattering Field II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Warrior II x5 Thanks muchly <3
mxzf Minmatar Shovel Bros The Phenom Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.16 05:22:00 - [2] Looks fairly solid to me (though my experience is admittedly limited to Drakes), though I'd trade that EM hardener for either a Explosive or Kinetic (look in EFT to see which is better for Angels).
Caile Sathinor Gallente EXTERMINATUS. Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.16 05:30:00 - [3] Edited by: Caile Sathinor on 16/01/2010 05:32:34 Looking at the damage profiles for various Angel BS, Malakims and Thrones seem to throw out a large amount of EM damage if I remember right,so mitigating that damage with the EM hardener isn't such a bad idea. I'd drop the Explosive hardener if anything since shields naturally have that high
Omar Khayyam Minmatar	Posted - 2010.01.16 10:27:00 - [4] Originally by: Caile Sathinor Edited by: Caile Sathinor on 16/01/2010 05:32:34 Looking at the damage profiles for various Angel BS, Malakims and Thrones seem to throw out a large amount of EM damage if I remember right,so mitigating that damage with the EM hardener isn't such a bad idea. I'd drop the Explosive hardener if anything since shields naturally have that high i woudlnt do that. always hava an explosive hardener against angels. about %70 of their damage comes from explosive. even a slight increase in explosive helps tanking considerably ------------------------------------------------ cruisers used to be a great power when i started this game :)
Caile Sathinor Gallente EXTERMINATUS. Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.16 10:34:00 - [5] Originally by: Omar Khayyam Originally by: Caile Sathinor Edited by: Caile Sathinor on 16/01/2010 05:32:34 Looking at the damage profiles for various Angel BS, Malakims and Thrones seem to throw out a large amount of EM damage if I remember right,so mitigating that damage with the EM hardener isn't such a bad idea. I'd drop the Explosive hardener if anything since shields naturally have that high i woudlnt do that. always hava an explosive hardener against angels. about %70 of their damage comes from explosive. even a slight increase in explosive helps tanking considerably There's a good chance you're right here and I should try sleeping before posting stupid crap at 4 AM Derp.
Ebru Shally	Posted - 2010.01.16 11:08:00 - [6] Edited by: Ebru Shally on 16/01/2010 11:08:52 wrong post :(
Omar Khayyam Minmatar	Posted - 2010.01.16 11:17:00 - [7] Originally by: Caile Sathinor Originally by: Omar Khayyam Originally by: Caile Sathinor Edited by: Caile Sathinor on 16/01/2010 05:32:34 Looking at the damage profiles for various Angel BS, Malakims and Thrones seem to throw out a large amount of EM damage if I remember right,so mitigating that damage with the EM hardener isn't such a bad idea. I'd drop the Explosive hardener if anything since shields naturally have that high i woudlnt do that. always hava an explosive hardener against angels. about %70 of their damage comes from explosive. even a slight increase in explosive helps tanking considerably There's a good chance you're right here and I should try sleeping before posting stupid crap at 4 AM Derp. This! is! Eve! no one sleeps! :)) ------------------------------------------------ cruisers used to be a great power when i started this game :)
Rip Striker	Posted - 2010.01.16 11:38:00 - [8] To the OP: 1. Maybe, if you expect alot of the incoming dps to be missiles. Also, helps you dictate range if necessary. 2. I dont know. You can always try a few vollyes with kinetic respectively explosive and judge by yourself. Personally, i'd go with kinetic. CS 4 is good enough. 3. No, you have a solid plex fit there. Your peak recharge is probably around 70 hp/s and your main resist is +90%. Looks good to me.
Kerdrak Big Guns Inc. Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.16 14:43:00 - [9] Looks great in paper, but in the practice you won't be using fury missiles (at least I won't) what leave the dps output only a bit higher than a drake with almost same tank. Ishtar performs better if want a passive ship for plexes. ________________________________________
Rip Striker	Posted - 2010.01.16 20:15:00 - [10] Originally by: Kerdrak dps output only a bit higher than a drake with almost same tank. Anything that increases performance is ok by me. Originally by: Kerdrak Ishtar performs better if want a passive ship for plexes. No, the Ishtar does not outdamage the Nighthawk. And it certainly does not outtank the Nightawk on explosive dps.



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