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G Merc
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.01.19 00:19:00 -
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Edited by: G Merc on 19/01/2010 00:24:27
They have secretly aligned themselves with so many alliances they consider red, and pretend are red to everyone around them.
1st.CVA aligned with goon. All current information speaks for itself.
2nd. Sev3rance - Aligned with Cry Havoc. Proof of this is.
They currently have 2 of Cry havocs CEO's Titan/MS POS's running protection in KBP7-G
He produces these under their protection and knowledge.
Name Proof is
Cry Havoc Leader - Vader Crane.
His corporation in Sev3rance alliance.
Necrotic Research Inc. - CEO Vadassier
One can only wonder how many others they are allied with.
One can only wonder who is a true member of the Amarr Empire? Goon? Cry Havoc? Who else? Guess all you can do is keep looking over your shoulder.
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Vader Crane
Minmatar
Reaper Industries
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.01.19 00:37:00 -
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Edited by: Vader Crane on 19/01/2010 00:37:17
Clearly you are a mastermind of the highest order.
Lets see.
I am not the leader of Cry Havoc, nice try though.
Cry Havoc killed a Sev3rance Titan (check the kb, cant link kb¦s) its what good pals do amirite? :)
You're an alt. Cowardice speaks for itself.
Its common knowledge that Super-Cap manufacturers sell to all kinds of people.
I know came as a suprise didn't it? kinda snuck up on you?
Anyways drugs is bad for you. Say no to drugs.
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G Merc
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.01.19 01:06:00 -
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Anger only verifys it.
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Lucius Vindictus
Amarr
Order of the Black Cross
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Posted - 2010.01.19 01:16:00 -
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Look! A recent academy graduate is posting his neutral and unbiased opinion on the IGS!
Let me call The Scope so that they can document this novel occurrence!
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
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Posted - 2010.01.19 01:19:00 -
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 Originally by: G Merc
Anger only verifys it.
Mm. Yes, I think I'm seeing less anger and more snark, here, pilot. Fairly justified snark from the look of things.
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Jakiin
Khanid Provincial Vanguard
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Posted - 2010.01.19 01:19:00 -
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Edited by: Jakiin on 19/01/2010 01:22:05
I heard that the EVE Observer already bought rights to the story on the theory that the ILF might somehow become involved.
Oh, I am curious: What evidence is this everyone keeps talking about (But hasn't presented while I've been around) that CVA and the Goons are walking arm in arm?
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Jakiin
Holder Heir of the Kingdom
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D melanogaster
Minmatar
The Fruit Flys
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Posted - 2010.01.19 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Vader Crane
Its common knowledge that Super-Cap manufacturers sell to all kinds of people.
this
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Spoon Thumb
Mamaleek
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Posted - 2010.01.19 04:08:00 -
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CVA <-> Goons relationship is complex. A lot of goons have connections to providence, especially Merch Industrial who iirc used to be members of Paxton Federation.
Some goons respect CVA for the similarities they see in their own story. Small time guys, doing their own thing, come good.
Some goons also respect CVA in that neither entity takes themselves entirely seriously (Magic missile -> ->  )
Historically,
During the great war, CVA did not take the side of either coalition. However CVA and Holders actively took part in assisting their friends and repelling those that were agressive in Providence
This came down to helping IAC, who were on the Goons side, and attacking BoB, who placed towers and claimed sov in Providence.
Goons had logistical towers in CVA's sphere of influence but they never threatened CVA, never placed anything in Providence itself and generally told their members to stay out of Provi.
Throughout this time, Goons and -A- and Bob and RA and pretty much everyone bar IAC were red to Provi-bloc.
However, the political considerations were always that a) Goons haven't done anything especially agressive, and b) that to attack Goons would have been seen to be taking the GBC side
The only reason BoB was attacked was that BoB actively went out of their way to attack PXF and IAC, and really should not have been seen in context of CVA being friendly with Goons. Simply not against
Fast forward to the present, and a similar outlook appears. The enemy of my enemy is nothing more, nothing less.
Just as some people asked whether CVA and -A- had a secret NAP, the fact was that both would keep the status quo whilst it served their interests.
The same applies with Goons and CVA. Should one have cause to make an enemy of the other and it be to their advantage, then they will undoubtedly take it to the detriment of the other
Hence why these agreements are never formalised. There is nothing legally binding about them, so to formalise them would simply create the dangerous illusion that these relationships are more than merely convenience and circumstance
However, the [enemy of my enemy]is less important than [my enemy] when choosing who to primary.
Since new year, Goons have taken the opportunity to use the CVA <-> Goons relationship for propoganda purposes. The relationship remains unchanged however from that described above
With -A- attacking Goons at the same time that LFA took systems it knew -A- would not let go without a fight, it could appear to be collusion, though this is probably not true due to CVA highly discouraging intelligence collection through spying.
To suggest that it was lucky timing would also be wrong since both CVA and -A- were probably of the opinion that -A- was slowly being weakened by lack of action. CVA/Holders took a chance to play on that weakened state of -A-, whilst -A- made to counter it with an attack on Goons.
In practice it is a mistake on -A-'s side, but they get lucky by Goons now being threatened by IT on their western border. -A- have the option of extracating themselves from fighting vs Goons if they cannot handle fighting in Catch at the same time.
All this is with the caviat that a considerable number of ppl in CVA hate Goons and vice versa, but leadership supresses this for political and practical purposes. Most of the grunts see CVA or Goons not as their real enemies, or at least not the ones before them now
(Note: None of this is new information, but a lot of people won't know the history. The exception perhaps is why CVA did not attack goon towers in Yong/Ta3T, though it has become evident since that it was good politics)
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Jakiin
Khanid Provincial Vanguard
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Posted - 2010.01.19 05:19:00 -
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Lady vitalia suggested that I ask you about this, and it appears her assesment of your knowledge was well founded. As it is I'm still glad I asked in a public venue: Hopefully others who weren't piloting at that time will find this as educational as I have.
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Jakiin
Holder Heir of the Kingdom
'Pacifist Reclaimer' |
Spoon Thumb
Mamaleek
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Posted - 2010.01.19 05:50:00 -
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You can always mail me. It is nice to put it down in writing though and I can't post on CAOD yet (corp is still too small. Probably not a bad thing  )
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Purple Hydra
The EVE Observer
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Posted - 2010.01.19 06:07:00 -
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Originally by: Jakiin
Edited by: Jakiin on 19/01/2010 01:22:05
I heard that the EVE Observer already bought rights to the story on the theory that the ILF might somehow become involved.
If the Khanid Provincial Vanguard have a Khanid who would like to volunteer to report on local news, then contact me via pod systems.
Levi is an Intaki, Based in Intaki reporting on Intaki affairs. He is only one of several reporters working for the Observer at this time. |
Randall Alba
Gallente
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.19 06:58:00 -
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Originally by: Spoon Thumb
CVA <-> Goons relationship is complex. A lot of goons have connections to providence, especially Merch Industrial who iirc used to be members of Paxton Federation.
For clarification - Merch Industries have never been members of Paxton Federation. They were members of "We Are Nice Guys" an alliance that historically operated in The Deliverance area.
PXF and WANG pilots have worked together to combat pirates and renegades in the Misaba pipe. This eventually culminated in PXF being accused of interferring in a Concord sanctioned war declared on WANG by REPO Industries. REPO then declaring war on PXF to teach us a lesson 
Since they joined Goonswarm our relationship with Merch has been the same as our relationship with the rest of their alliance. Their ships occasionally stray within our territory and if successfully intercepted they are destroyed.
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Van PokerAlho
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Posted - 2010.01.20 12:43:00 -
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There are no coincidences.
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Il Morte
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Posted - 2010.01.21 18:25:00 -
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The truth to the statement brought up here is closer to the truth than anyone would want to admit. CVA will always be backed by many alliances they have set as red for basic reasons.
1)Most are set red for reasons of NBSI over NRDS and nothing more political.
2)Most Alliances want to be set red for the fights
3)Alliances need areaÆs or an area of space that is NRDS and Neutral friendly otherwise they would have no where to target hunt. It is a great joy for them to take a small gang up or solo roam and shoot noob nuets in providence at will while avoiding the eventual blob.
Therefore if CVA is overthrown or removed and the areaÆs of providence are then made NBSI the fun of the casual pvp roam in providence will be over. Therefore you will have these quiet informal or formal agreements between other alliances to ensure the stability of CVA in providence.
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Icarus3
Gallente
DAEDALUS X
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.01.23 10:31:00 -
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I will admit to believing in a secretive alliance between CVA and the Goonies...
Cry Havoc? Give me a break...Cry Havoc are sound pilots. Instead of supplying Provi with Titans... they destroy them in Provi. Get your facts straight.
Cry Havoc from my point of view are more than happy to burn all of providence as they see fit and for that reason I am happy to be on the same side of the battlefield as them!
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Roderz
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Posted - 2010.01.23 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: Icarus3
I will admit to believing in a secretive alliance between CVA and the Goonies...
Cry Havoc? Give me a break...Cry Havoc are sound pilots. Instead of supplying Provi with Titans... they destroy them in Provi. Get your facts straight.
Cry Havoc from my point of view are more than happy to burn all of providence as they see fit and for that reason I am happy to be on the same side of the battlefield as them!
Thats why they turned up when they was asked to help defend your pos in Kamela .. Ohwai...
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Nagus Zek
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Posted - 2010.02.16 02:46:00 -
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You just dont get it do you?
From: Vadassier aka Vader Crane from CH
Sent: 2010.02.15 09:27
To: Gelo Breen,
I dont know what to say other that wtf were you thinking.
I have been in Sev3rance for over 2 years and you still think im a spy? Do you seriously think I am the one spy in the Eve History who moved backwards on the evolutionary ladder by stepping down and not up from a position of "power" in Sev3rance Senate?
I gave that up freely, I hold no position in Sev3rance and I dont even play with them.
I do business here, and you think I would jepeardize that by playing spy? 100¦s of billions just to spy in an alliance which invites entire legions of Hostile corps like Genos Occidere?
Are you completely stoned?
You never quite "got it"
Even without my friends in Sev3rance its quite simply ludicrous to think I would jeperdize my business to something as laughably ******ed as to spy on Sev3rance even from a selfish stand point.
I understand you dont know a damned thing about what I have actually done in coordination with FuriousPig for Sev3rance because its not in the open.
But allthough I think youre a raving lunatic I thought id get this off my chest since you never faced me directly, but just whispered your bitter bitter self off in the shadows like the smokers room and pilots mess while everyone shakes their head in bafflement.
I got np with you being all uptight about me, but ffs man get it into your head. Youre just not important enough to me to give a rats ass about to the extent of the drama lama you try and paint all over the place.
It was not me who post agressively and bitterly in every single forum post about things you dont even have the vaguest clue about, nor was it me who emo raged and sold us out to StarFraction while yelling "Waaaa" at the first sight of being told off.
I mean was it also my masterminded self that made you contact a mortal enemy of Sev3rance and ask them to steal/kill 83 of your own corporation ships?
The only failure here is you. You brought more damage and shame to your so called friends than anyone ever did and yet you got the balls to call me a spy and backstabber.
You are truly a monumental fail.
Nice blasting away at FuriousPig too despite him keeping you in corp despite the ****y **** you always unload on everyone and everything.
Even StarFraction had plans to kill your ******ed titan use. CH just beat them to it and because I called you out for a bitter **** you descide to "connect the dots" even when there isnt anything to connect.
Find productive use of your time mate. lol
just lol.
Anyways have a nice day.
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Licky Lips
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.02.16 03:06:00 -
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Originally by: Nagus Zek
STUFF.
For those who don't know, Nagus = gelo Breen, dunno why he don't post with his main.
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Agent Unknown
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.02.16 04:40:00 -
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I'll just sum up the GoonSwarm <-> CVA relationship with this quote I found from my memory: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
GS and CVA had a common enemy, so they recognized this and stayed out of each other's way. During the battle of D-GTMI GS pilots were present to shoot -A- supercaps. CVA fleets were told not to shoot them first, but they ended up dying when -A- left the field. Does this seem like they're working together to you?
Also, I now have one of those annoying sigs.
Originally by: CCP Fallout
And yelling is bad. It makes the baby Jesus cry and when the baby Jesus cries I'm forced to lock threads
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Tarine Ammatari
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Posted - 2010.02.16 09:19:00 -
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You sirs are obviously not knowing on politics.
It is clear as blue that CVA and -A- had a secret NAP, who in turn were napped by Goons only to facilitate their fake pact of aggression in order to destroy PXF so that they all could have an orgy in D-GTMI before the downtime, but after the full moon.
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Mazca Lopez
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.02.16 09:38:00 -
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Originally by: Nagus Zek
I do business here, and you think I would jepeardize that by playing spy? 100¦s of billions just to spy in an alliance which invites entire legions of Hostile corps like Genos Occidere?
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CCP Adida
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Posted - 2010.02.16 14:48:00 -
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