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Nicki Larsen
Kleptomaniac Sloth
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Posted - 2012.06.25 00:36:00 -
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I've been playing this game for some years now and I still feel like I'm not making enough ISK each day to keep up my habits.
Whats an average amount of ISK to make each day?
Passive & Active? |

Tarn Kugisa
Bugaboo and some Pew Pew
90
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Posted - 2012.06.25 00:37:00 -
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0 ISK/Day
I have no Idea how I acquire goods and services without acquiring funds every day. I Endorse this Product and/or Service [url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16580[/url] |

Ituhata
The Scope Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.06.25 00:38:00 -
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Actively enough to buy a new battleship every few days. That's not much but honestly its just a handful of level 4 missions. Turns out I do more BSing in local than actually playing. |

Rhatar Khurin
United Earth Directorate
52
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Posted - 2012.06.25 00:39:00 -
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On average i would say around 100-150 mill a day.
That's just diddling around in missions and chatting mostly |

Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
557
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Posted - 2012.06.25 00:40:00 -
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I'm only in it for the avatars, and you don't need skills and ships to look this good. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
879
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Posted - 2012.06.25 00:40:00 -
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Um... I don't know.
I make anywhere from 600M an hour for an hour to 0 an hour for a day.
Tis the nature of a vulture. |

Skydell
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
291
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Posted - 2012.06.25 00:42:00 -
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None. My accounts will be inactive in 4 hrs and I'm on the forums, not in the game.
Back when I cared? Option A: Grind power. It will be different for everyone. There are good missions, bad missions. There are good Anoms, bad anoms. You might get a hundred mill a day in decryptors, you might get none.
Option B: Percentage stacking. If you have 10 billion you might make 100 million. If you have 100 Billion you might make a billion. This is done with market profits and requires more home work and knowing who is manipulating what on a daily basis. |

JigglyAss
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.25 00:46:00 -
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I live in WH space, so making a certain per hour isn't accurate, but I can honestly say that I feed my PVP addiction that way
What adventures are looking you to get into? |

Nicki Larsen
Kleptomaniac Sloth
1
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Posted - 2012.06.25 00:51:00 -
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PVP mostly, I tend to lose ships all to often due to stupid glitches. (I hate Australian Internet pipe to EVE servers)
I live 0.0 Sov space, and running the anoms im only make 50mil a day, (4hrs playing) I just hear of ppl doing the same anoms as me making around $500 a day. Maybe its time to learn to fly a tengu. Ships seem so unbalanced. |

Polly Oxford
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
43
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Posted - 2012.06.25 00:57:00 -
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If you make 50m in 4 hours in 0.0 you are doing something terribly wrong. Get a T2 Drake/Tengu and do some Forsaken Hubs. |
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Shameless Avenger
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
74
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Posted - 2012.06.25 01:06:00 -
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5 trillion?
Nah seriously, I could make 100m in a couple of hours with just mission running. Double that if I were ratting in null sec. If I'm plating the markets, I could make 1b in a day or I could actually lose money... it depends.
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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
434
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Posted - 2012.06.25 01:06:00 -
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Hmmm...
Damn, I can't rightly say anymore, tbh.
If i were to mission with handsome Tarryn here, or my other two hi-skill toons, then--not including LP-flipping, because I tend to save those for a rainy day (IE quick replacement of +4s if I get podded), and/or own-use faction mods and ammo--probably approx. ISK 45mn/h if I got a string of good missions (no "Right Hand of Zazzmatazz" spam, but that one's super-easy to blitz anyway).
Missions put the "Grrrr... " in grind, though, so I rarely do them anymore, I do losec exploration.
With some good drops, and consistent sites--doing just the profession-sites, not counting 'Plexes--then I go around, I would say ISK 25-40mn/h low-end, up to (very-)approximately 80mn/h, occasionally much higher if I get that one (very rare, just so we're clear) booster-control skill-book that goes for ISK 325+ mn in the fighting/hacking pirate LADAR sites.
Again, not counting 'Plexes, I see the losec profession-sites as my "regular wage," good 'plexes as a (sometimes-epic!) bonus.
I've made upwards of 200mn/h in wormholes, but this is chance-based (Melted Nanoribbon Gods must favour you), and risks scaled accordingly, plus you need friends you can trust. (C4+ sites really can't be solo'ed.)
Is it less-efficient, my "thing?" Arguably, yes.
Is it more fun, immersive, and fells so much more "really" rewarding? No argument whatsoever!
You need ISK in this game, but don't fall into the "max ISK/h!!!111oneone!" trap, OP--this game will stop being fun very quickly if you do, because let's face it--EVE's hilariously archaic PvE component just isn't all that good, with certain exceptions. In irae, veritas. |

Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
79
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Posted - 2012.06.25 01:07:00 -
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Polly Oxford wrote:If you make 50m in 4 hours in 0.0 you are doing something terribly wrong. Get a T2 Drake/Tengu and do some Forsaken Hubs.
That breaks down to like 4-5mil per tick, so he is doing something wrong, or ratting in some low SP/T1 fit. |

Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory Blue Nation
235
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Posted - 2012.06.25 01:16:00 -
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Lol. You won't get honest answers in a thread like this. It's just asking for mostly "made up" hard raging epeens. "That's okay it annoys me when people pile on new definitions to the word sandbox every time CCP does something they don't like. " - Alara IonStorm GD is where 60% of threads make you dumber and 10% which provide you with entertainment, the remaining 30% is a mix of both. |

Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra Gallente Federation
171
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Posted - 2012.06.25 01:22:00 -
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The choking, sweltering, deadly, and killing rule of no rule; the consecration of cupidity and braying of folly, and dim stupidity and baseness, in most of the affairs of men. Slopshirts attainable three-halfpence cheaper by the ruin of living bodies and immortal souls. http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |

Nicki Larsen
Kleptomaniac Sloth
1
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Posted - 2012.06.25 01:34:00 -
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I fly a Proteus with my mate in his Tengu. He can sit at 80k and just pop them off. If i fit rails i just cant do enough damage. If I blaster fit it, Im fine. but its still a little painful being bashed by 30ships and running that risk.
Mighty have to find a real good fit for a Proteus long range. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2053
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Posted - 2012.06.25 01:40:00 -
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All the ISK. Every Hour. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub Like I Give A F--K
1359
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Posted - 2012.06.25 01:40:00 -
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Nicki Larsen wrote:I fly a Proteus with my mate in his Tengu. He can sit at 80k and just pop them off. If i fit rails i just cant do enough damage. If I blaster fit it, Im fine. but its still a little painful being bashed by 30ships and running that risk.
Mighty have to find a real good fit for a Proteus long range. That's mostly just because of how awesome the tengu is for PvE tbh. If you're in sov space though, have you not tried a close range fit?
I just wouldn't advise using a close range fit without keeping an eye on Intel, since stuff coming your way will land on you at near-zero.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2053
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Posted - 2012.06.25 01:41:00 -
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Nicki Larsen wrote:Proteus
Well there's your problem. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |

Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
192
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Posted - 2012.06.25 01:45:00 -
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Chances are, OP you are making the average.
Saying it again for the hundredth time. If everyone was making 200 mill an hr, Plex wouldn't be selling for 500 mill. They would be selling for 5 Billion. Ignore the people saying they are making 200 mill an hr. They are bald faced liars. 12 mill an hr is the PvE average in EVE. You willget rare spikes to as high as half a billion but it's based on loots that have optic value far above their true value and they are extremely rare. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg-_HeVNYOk
Save Derpy! |
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1183
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Posted - 2012.06.25 01:55:00 -
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I do some recruitment work whenever I need some ISK. pays well. a rogue goon |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
314
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Posted - 2012.06.25 01:57:00 -
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Nicki Larsen wrote:PVP mostly, I tend to lose ships all to often due to stupid glitches. (I hate Australian Internet pipe to EVE servers)
I live 0.0 Sov space, and running the anoms im only make 50mil a day, (4hrs playing) I just hear of ppl doing the same anoms as me making around $500 a day. Maybe its time to learn to fly a tengu. Ships seem so unbalanced.
Depends of a lot of stuff but mostly chance.
You can run DED sites in 30min (+probing time) and get billions and the day after or for weeks get 0 to little isk. Do different things instead of zombiefying yourself it's the best way to win some isk and have fun. brb |

Sivir Iska
Scions of Avalon
0
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Posted - 2012.06.25 01:58:00 -
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Off of about 3-4 Lvl 4 missions I do a day, about 20 million or so from mission rewards and bounties. Not a whole lot really, but it gives me something to whittle a couple of hours away with. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1183
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Posted - 2012.06.25 01:59:00 -
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Sivir Iska wrote:Off of about 3-4 Lvl 4 missions I do a day, about 20 million or so from mission rewards and bounties. Not a whole lot really, but it gives me something to whittle a couple of hours away with.
get a tengu and you'll no-effort like 6 in those couple of hours a rogue goon |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
314
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Posted - 2012.06.25 02:02:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Sivir Iska wrote:Off of about 3-4 Lvl 4 missions I do a day, about 20 million or so from mission rewards and bounties. Not a whole lot really, but it gives me something to whittle a couple of hours away with. get a tengu and you'll no-effort like 6 in those couple of hours
You forgot the important stuff: "pimped Tengu" 
brb |

Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
199
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Posted - 2012.06.25 02:03:00 -
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all of it There should be a rather awesome pic here |

gfark
Next Chapter For New Adventures SpaceMonkey's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.06.25 02:05:00 -
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Domi / Tengu combo running anoms in 0.0 I get 120M/hr consistently. Thank you CCP for nice new drone damage mod. |

Sivir Iska
Scions of Avalon
0
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Posted - 2012.06.25 02:06:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Sivir Iska wrote:Off of about 3-4 Lvl 4 missions I do a day, about 20 million or so from mission rewards and bounties. Not a whole lot really, but it gives me something to whittle a couple of hours away with. get a tengu and you'll no-effort like 6 in those couple of hours
I have a Tengu, not dumb enough to pimp it out needlessly when t2 mods will work just fine. |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub Like I Give A F--K
1359
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Posted - 2012.06.25 02:09:00 -
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Ioci wrote:Chances are, OP you are making the average.
Saying it again for the hundredth time. If everyone was making 200 mill an hr, Plex wouldn't be selling for 500 mill. They would be selling for 5 Billion. Ignore the people saying they are making 200 mill an hr. They are bald faced liars. 12 mill an hr is the PvE average in EVE. You willget rare spikes to as high as half a billion but it's based on loots that have optic value far above their true value and they are extremely rare. rofl.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |

Nicki Larsen
Kleptomaniac Sloth
1
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Posted - 2012.06.25 02:11:00 -
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Copine Callmeknau wrote:... back of victoria.
This could be the reason why. Trace route detects the issue with Sydney node when going overseas,
on a side note. Could you send me a trace from your location? Block out any sensitive details ofcourse. |
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Bluddwolf
Minmatar Death Squad Broken Chains Alliance
41
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Posted - 2012.06.25 02:25:00 -
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Before the mission runner nerfs, I could make between 15 - 35 mil isk per mission = about 2 hours of play max. On a really good day I could play for about 5 hours and make about 80 mil isk.
Now after the nerf, I'd say I've lost about 40% of my isk earning potential. EVE Online Fan ... Looking for "End Game" since 2006 ... Happily, I still havn't found it
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Cloned S0ul
Blood Fanatics
147
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Posted - 2012.06.25 02:26:00 -
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Nicki Larsen wrote:
Whats an average amount of ISK to make each day?
Passive & Active?
Depend my sacrifice, luck and and condition, im able to earn around 300-450 mil per 6-8 hour withaut any break-afk form game while using main + 2 alts (active incomes, zero pisive), in fact i have actualy only 280mil isk in total in all my character form seling old faction cruises , im to lazy for endeles farm, so in last two month zero profit.
My personal treatment to incomes changes long time ago, i realize isk cant made me happy, they not so importand as before, less isk i have better for me, i earn isk only if i realy need them, not for colecting them... Teemo for president. |

Nex apparatu5
Friendship is Podding Test Alliance Please Ignore
297
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Posted - 2012.06.25 02:27:00 -
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Enough to feed my PVP habits, which is all I need. |

Aldeb Haraz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
5
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Posted - 2012.06.25 02:31:00 -
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Nex apparatu5 wrote:Enough to feed my PVP habits, which is all I need.
+1 to that, I put in just enough effort (read: almost none) to fund 2 of my accounts on plex as well as keep a good stock of PVP ships. Really doesnt take much to do that to be quite honest |

Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
79
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Posted - 2012.06.25 02:48:00 -
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Ioci wrote:Chances are, OP you are making the average.
Saying it again for the hundredth time. If everyone was making 200 mill an hr, Plex wouldn't be selling for 500 mill. They would be selling for 5 Billion. Ignore the people saying they are making 200 mill an hr. They are bald faced liars. 12 mill an hr is the PvE average in EVE. You willget rare spikes to as high as half a billion but it's based on loots that have optic value far above their true value and they are extremely rare.
You are forgetting the plex supply curve.
Just as there are players who have tons of isk to throw at subscription fees, there are also players with real world cash who see plex as an easy way to get isk. |

Nikodiemus
Jokulhlaup
33
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Posted - 2012.06.25 04:06:00 -
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Ignoring all the people in this thread that cannot spell and are still obviously native English speakers...
Asking how much isk people make per week or day or month is just as bad as asking "What makes the most money?" in MD. To be straight forward though, there is no reasonable amount to strive for per hour because so many players simply buy PLEX to fund their gameplay.
It is far easier to pay for a plex with currency, (especially dollars) and save that time which would have been consumed mining or trading or whoring w/e, than making it yourself. |

Nicki Larsen
Kleptomaniac Sloth
1
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Posted - 2012.06.25 04:17:00 -
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Nikodiemus wrote:Ignoring all the people in this thread that cannot spell and are still obviously native English speakers...
First of all, You say ignore, yet they have been more useful to answering my question then yourself.
I was not asking for tip or trick nor asking what I am best to strive for. A simple question of "How much do you make" to help clarify a question to myself, "How well am I doing compared to others?"
Second, Whats the point in buy 200bil in PLEX if you don't know how to use it. Kinda pointless.
And to answer your next question, If I had 200bil in PLEX then why don't I just buy a better Toon? Well this is adventure with no ending credit video but how good you are per hour/week/month.
But thanks for your reply, don't know what I'd do without a good Troller. |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
467
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Posted - 2012.06.25 04:21:00 -
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With both accounts churning and I'm "On the ball" and not watching netflix I can push about 100-110M an hour. This never happens because it's boring as hell.
Realistically with me watching netflix and both accounts churning I'll hit 90M an hour.
Sometimes when I want to go super low effort I'll load up a droneboat and settle for 45M an hour while I watch a movie and hope the rats don't murder me. |

Malacath Azaria
xX-Crusader-Xx
16
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Posted - 2012.06.25 04:23:00 -
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Nicki Larsen wrote:Copine Callmeknau wrote:... back of victoria. This could be the reason why. Trace route detects the issue with Sydney node when going overseas, on a side note. Could you send me a trace from your location? Block out any sensitive details ofcourse.
I live in Sydney, no issues here.
Suck less.
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Shameless Avenger
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
74
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Posted - 2012.06.25 04:27:00 -
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Oh yeah... I forgot the super super low effort:
3 accounts doing lvl 4 cargo hauling missions *totally* afk. Haven't done it in a while, no idea how much iskies per hour. |
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Nicki Larsen
Kleptomaniac Sloth
2
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Posted - 2012.06.25 04:28:00 -
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Nicki Larsen wrote: the issue with Sydney node when going overseas
Thanks for your useful input. |

Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
199
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Posted - 2012.06.25 04:42:00 -
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Nicki Larsen wrote:Copine Callmeknau wrote:... back of victoria. This could be the reason why. Trace route detects the issue with Sydney node when going overseas, on a side note. Could you send me a trace from your location? Block out any sensitive details ofcourse. You mean something like this?
My alliance mates wonder why I lag on TS 
That connection wasn't being used when I did the trace either btw, not like I was pingflooding to deliberately score high There should be a rather awesome pic here |

Cloned S0ul
Blood Fanatics
147
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Posted - 2012.06.25 04:51:00 -
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Nikodiemus wrote:Ignoring all the people in this thread that cannot spell and are still obviously native English speakers...
Probably most users English is still better than your Chinese, you know EvE support a lot players form difirent countrys form entire earth, and they got rights to post here ? is a game where people met together, what a arogant person... Even meny CCP empoyers got specific accent probably some of them are far way form super perfect english, just STFU or change community if you have problem with them. Teemo for president. |

Nicki Larsen
Kleptomaniac Sloth
2
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Posted - 2012.06.25 04:57:00 -
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Cloned S0ul wrote:Nikodiemus wrote:Ignoring all the people in this thread that cannot spell and are still obviously native English speakers...
Probably most users English is still better than your Chinese, you know EvE support a lot players form difirent countrys form entire earth, and they got rights to post here ? is a game where people met together, what a arogant person... Even meny CCP empoyers got specific accent probably some of them are far way form super perfect english, just STFU or change community if you have problem with them.
+1 I often wonder what happened to the decent person and if EVE either turns people or repels them. Good to see there are still some decent people in the EVE community. |

Nicki Larsen
Kleptomaniac Sloth
2
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Posted - 2012.06.25 05:00:00 -
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Copine Callmeknau wrote:You mean something like this? My alliance mates wonder why I lag on TS 
Yeah. Mines not that bad, but my end ping is anywhere above 350. (never below)
Its gotten so bad though that people have targeted me before I even get out of warp, but to make it better, Says I cant target because I'm still in warp.
Playing anything less than a cruiser is suicide. |

Lipbite
Express Hauler
95
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Posted - 2012.06.25 05:04:00 -
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I'm earning ~ 1 monocle per week. If they weren't that ugly I could have them in each hole of my body. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2054
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Posted - 2012.06.25 05:27:00 -
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Lipbite wrote:I'm earning ~ 1 monocle per week. If they weren't that ugly I could have them in each hole of my body.
Seventy dollar Speculums? This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |

Bernie Nator
Talocan Hive Talocan United
326
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Posted - 2012.06.25 05:39:00 -
[48] - Quote
I make about tree fiddy every day. |

Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
199
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Posted - 2012.06.25 06:03:00 -
[49] - Quote
Nicki Larsen wrote:Copine Callmeknau wrote:You mean something like this? My alliance mates wonder why I lag on TS  Yeah. Mines not that bad, but my end ping is anywhere above 350. (never below) Its gotten so bad though that people have targeted me before I even get out of warp, but to make it better, Says I cant target because I'm still in warp. Playing anything less than a cruiser is suicide. No dude just look at it like playing on hard mode and sharpen your skills ^^ There should be a rather awesome pic here |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
335
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Posted - 2012.06.25 06:09:00 -
[50] - Quote
Not nearly enough.
You want fries with that? |
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Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
335
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Posted - 2012.06.25 06:17:00 -
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Ioci wrote:Chances are, OP you are making the average.
Saying it again for the hundredth time. If everyone was making 200 mill an hr, Plex wouldn't be selling for 500 mill. They would be selling for 5 Billion. Ignore the people saying they are making 200 mill an hr. They are bald faced liars. 12 mill an hr is the PvE average in EVE. You willget rare spikes to as high as half a billion but it's based on loots that have optic value far above their true value and they are extremely rare.
A big +1 for honesty.
I do get fed up with the 'I make X billions an hour doing level 4 missions in my Velator armed only with mining lasers'
I guess like many other typical Eve players I know the usual crosssection of folk, and, apart from highly skilled market traders, most folk I know and hear about make 20-30 mill per hour.
You want fries with that? |

Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
330
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Posted - 2012.06.25 07:31:00 -
[52] - Quote
Enough to drop a billion on Blink like it ain't no thang. |

Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
580
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Posted - 2012.06.25 07:46:00 -
[53] - Quote
There are days I make nothing. Days I spend near a bil. Days I make 20-180mil, and sometimes (very rarely) over a bil. Sometimes I wonder where all that isk goes then I remember does it really matter, it's only a game.
So yeah fugg it, I don't play for the isk.  Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm... |

Apolyon I
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
88
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Posted - 2012.06.25 07:50:00 -
[54] - Quote
quite a lot, isk is so easy to make if you know how to.
20b in pvp ships and another 20b liquid |

Zimmy Zeta
Paramount Commerce Masters of Flying Objects
1082
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Posted - 2012.06.25 07:53:00 -
[55] - Quote
With small scale invention and t2 production I get an an average of 50M per day with close to zero effort. Of course there are people who make much more isk and even I could multiply this amount if I really cared- but it's nice enough to log in every three days or so and realize that I have made enough afk money again to burn several battlecruisers. -.- |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub Like I Give A F--K
1359
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Posted - 2012.06.25 08:06:00 -
[56] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Ioci wrote:Chances are, OP you are making the average.
Saying it again for the hundredth time. If everyone was making 200 mill an hr, Plex wouldn't be selling for 500 mill. They would be selling for 5 Billion. Ignore the people saying they are making 200 mill an hr. They are bald faced liars. 12 mill an hr is the PvE average in EVE. You willget rare spikes to as high as half a billion but it's based on loots that have optic value far above their true value and they are extremely rare. A big +1 for honesty. I do get fed up with the 'I make X billions an hour doing level 4 missions in my Velator armed only with mining lasers' I guess like many other typical Eve players I know the usual crosssection of folk, and, apart from highly skilled market traders, most folk I know and hear about make 20-30 mill per hour. You can probably make more than 30m an hour running a c1 with an AF.
And remember, these are the forums. Most of us are not "average" Eve players, so one important thing to note when people claim "hurr durr 600m an hour" is how many characters we are using. For example I can make 400-500m an hour in a C3, but I will forget to mention that I'm not including all the time spent scanning for a decent c3 and the fact that I'm using two pimped T3s and a dedicated hurricane to salvage.
Either way, 30m is the very lowest end of the spectrum. I'd expect anyone running l4s in a "decent" setup to be able to beat that.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |

Dsan
Macabre Votum Against ALL Authorities
9
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Posted - 2012.06.25 08:12:00 -
[57] - Quote
100mill to 400mill a day.. Go read my blog at: www.eveblog.dsan.dk
Or follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/Dsan_dk |

Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
199
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Posted - 2012.06.25 08:19:00 -
[58] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Ioci wrote:Chances are, OP you are making the average.
Saying it again for the hundredth time. If everyone was making 200 mill an hr, Plex wouldn't be selling for 500 mill. They would be selling for 5 Billion. Ignore the people saying they are making 200 mill an hr. They are bald faced liars. 12 mill an hr is the PvE average in EVE. You willget rare spikes to as high as half a billion but it's based on loots that have optic value far above their true value and they are extremely rare. A big +1 for honesty. I do get fed up with the 'I make X billions an hour doing level 4 missions in my Velator armed only with mining lasers' I guess like many other typical Eve players I know the usual crosssection of folk, and, apart from highly skilled market traders, most folk I know and hear about make 20-30 mill per hour. ITT: Poor people convince each other that really everyone eats cans of spam for dinner, it's totally normal. There should be a rather awesome pic here |

Sarton Wells
Blackmoon Ltd.
9
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Posted - 2012.06.25 08:28:00 -
[59] - Quote
Simi Kusoni wrote:Either way, 30m is the very lowest end of the spectrum. I'd expect anyone running l4s in a "decent" setup to be able to beat that.
Yeah with an incredibly cheap raven and an alt to grab aggro 30m is the absolute minimum I'm getting. I'm pretty sure even l3s with a drake will net more than 12m/hr. |

Ascentior
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
31
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Posted - 2012.06.25 08:28:00 -
[60] - Quote
Cloned S0ul wrote:Nikodiemus wrote:Ignoring all the people in this thread that cannot spell and are still obviously native English speakers...
Probably most users English is still better than your Chinese, you know EvE support a lot players form difirent countrys form entire earth, and they got rights to post here ? is a game where people met together, what a arogant person... Even meny CCP empoyers got specific lanuage accent and some of them are far away form perfect English, for example while they talk in fan fest for some people is hard to understand what they talk, but no one mention this and nobody hate them for this, people just respect other people, just STFU or change community if you have problem with them.
While I agree with you, I think you misunderstood Nikodiemus.
He is not attacking people who have English as a second language, he is talking about people who are born and raised in English speaking cultures, who never bothered to learn their own language properly.
Those of you who have learnt English as a second language, I applaud you. Wish I could say I have achieved something similar. |
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hedge betts Shiyurida
State Protectorate Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2012.06.25 08:29:00 -
[61] - Quote
I dont set an isk target. If I need something I grind for it. Currently building a Kronos and a other popular ships to sell on for more isk, which I will then spend on skill books.
Rince. Wash. Repeat Cup the balls, and work the shaft |

Cair Vallent
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.25 08:38:00 -
[62] - Quote
120m ish / h semi afk with 2 toons running  |

Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
64
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Posted - 2012.06.25 08:39:00 -
[63] - Quote
depends on the price of minerals. |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1459
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Posted - 2012.06.25 08:56:00 -
[64] - Quote
20mil/hr. |

Pisov viet
Kaesong Kosmonauts Test Alliance Please Ignore
68
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:45:00 -
[65] - Quote
2 bajillions per hour, usually. |

Timberwulf420
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:55:00 -
[66] - Quote
you want the truth ?, you cant HANDLE THE TRUTH!
18billion per 24/h |

Alexzandvar Douglass
NUTS AND BOLTS MANUFACTURING En Garde
33
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Posted - 2012.06.25 11:06:00 -
[67] - Quote
I make about 200+ million a day If I ice mine a little bit, but if I really try I can make more.
Also depends on if I have bonuses, and if I have my PI crap working. |

Nicki Larsen
Kleptomaniac Sloth
2
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Posted - 2012.06.25 11:21:00 -
[68] - Quote
Timberwulf420 wrote:you want the truth ?, you cant HANDLE THE TRUTH!
18billion per 24/h
So you make that in 24hrs. but how much is profit? |

Christopher Dulson
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2012.06.25 11:21:00 -
[69] - Quote
karn Dulake stand in
I used to make about 5-7 billion a month but now i have a girlfriend and a job so now i pay for my subs and make about 10 million a month. |

Timberwulf420
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.06.25 11:23:00 -
[70] - Quote
Nicki Larsen wrote:Timberwulf420 wrote:you want the truth ?, you cant HANDLE THE TRUTH!
18billion per 24/h So you make that in 24hrs. but how much is profit?
about 8% |
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Timberwulf420
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.06.25 11:23:00 -
[71] - Quote
if im lucky
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Nate Guralman
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
28
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Posted - 2012.06.25 11:58:00 -
[72] - Quote
I pull in about 3B or so a month, mostly through trading. I'm fortunate to be acutely self-aware at how much I suck at PVP, so I keep myself in cheap ships and cheap fits until I can learn not too suck.
But I'm not holding my breath. |

Flashheart
Dangermouse Inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.06.25 12:01:00 -
[73] - Quote
40M / hour running high sec L4's, once you add up rewards, bounties, salvage, LP cash ins, reproccessing to build ships.
Could squeeze out more but I'm general pretty bored after an hour and half afk after that. |

Xearal
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
301
|
Posted - 2012.06.25 12:04:00 -
[74] - Quote
Depends a bit on my mood, how active I'm feeling, and howmuch money I'm in need of.
if I were to actually get off my butt and be fully active in all the things have running, I'd be making about 3-4B a month, probably more. Usually it sits around 1-2B a month, since I like to relax a little every now and then, and chatter with corpies.
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
318
|
Posted - 2012.06.25 12:13:00 -
[75] - Quote
Zimmy Zeta wrote:Morale of the story: Statistics are useless. ISK/hour ratio is useless.
This is probably the best way to see the grand scheme of Eve things.
OP
Run a few missions and gtfo when you're bored enough, sell your lp's asap/fast with faction ammo or slowly for a much higher income with specific mods.
Trade some stuff.
Buy some cheapo mods you can reprocess for a much higher income selling those reprocessed minerals
Exploration
WH exploration can be tricky if you can't afford more than 4 hours thou.
Low sec/Null sec ratting
Last but non least: try to join some corp matching your goals with people in having a life like you. If that corp is in some known low sec alliance or null sec alliance you'll probably have to respect some rules and CTA's but it's really not what most people think about.
Try to explore other parts of eve universe, you'll get the isk and some ties better isk than you can ever think you could get but the most important is to have fun for the money you put in this game. Isk comes and goes.
brb |

Nikodiemus
Jokulhlaup
35
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Posted - 2012.06.25 12:19:00 -
[76] - Quote
Ascentior wrote:Cloned S0ul wrote:Nikodiemus wrote:Ignoring all the people in this thread that cannot spell and are still obviously native English speakers...
Probably most users English is still better than your Chinese, you know EvE support a lot players form difirent countrys form entire earth, and they got rights to post here ? is a game where people met together, what a arogant person... Even meny CCP empoyers got specific lanuage accent and some of them are far away form perfect English, for example while they talk in fan fest for some people is hard to understand what they talk, but no one mention this and nobody hate them for this, people just respect other people, just STFU or change community if you have problem with them. While I agree with you, I think you misunderstood Nikodiemus. He is not attacking people who have English as a second language, he is talking about people who are born and raised in English speaking cultures, who never bothered to learn their own language properly. Those of you who have learnt English as a second language, I applaud you. Wish I could say I have achieved something similar.
This man here has a brain and is correct.
Also, aside from my half assed attempt to troll, to answer your previous question with some more detail, in either the last fanfest or the one previous (I cannot remember which) Dr. Eyjog said the average player had about 600m isk.
This matches somewhat other statements from CCP Diagoras so instead of asking how much you make, which is actually very tricky for some people to calculate for a variety of reasons including escrow, cost of goods in production, inventory etc. do some math here based on this average and come to your own conclusion. |

knobber Jobbler
182
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Posted - 2012.06.25 12:22:00 -
[77] - Quote
Never really count. I've not deliberately made isk since February. I've made some profits along the way during various mineral price increases and buying and selling tech but I usually market trade for a few weeks and that will give me enough isk for maybe a year. |

forestwho
Foonfleet Investment Banking
6
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Posted - 2012.06.25 12:31:00 -
[78] - Quote
depends, sometimes nothin in a month, somtimes 45b in 9 days, trading is the way to go
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1190
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Posted - 2012.06.25 12:36:00 -
[79] - Quote
forestwho wrote:depends, sometimes nothin in a month, somtimes 45b in 9 days, trading is the way to go
did you really create an alt and corp just to impersonate some random poster a rogue goon |

Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
123
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Posted - 2012.06.25 12:39:00 -
[80] - Quote
Back in my null days i could make a good 500mill in a day if i chain ratted the belts, making sure that i clear the crap ones to spawn the awesome ones. Once you had them all setup you could make a fortune just killing them over and over, and using a dedicated salvager. Thats assuming no-one comes and ruins it of course. Can you still chain rat these days, did they change that?
Running the lvl 4 missions, specifically the best ones like extravaganza etc, could make me quite a bit of isk, with a dedicated noctis salvaging as you go. Can't remember exactly how much i made back then, and the repeatedness quickly puts you off.
These days i make alot of isk via PI, but ive never really worked out how much it makes me per day, but about a bill every couple of weeks. And thats it addition to whatever i can be bothered to do in the rest of the time.  |
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Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
667
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Posted - 2012.06.25 13:02:00 -
[81] - Quote
Enough to afford iced Quafe and bacon every night. Bacon and cheese. The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |

TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc Exhale.
103
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Posted - 2012.06.25 13:07:00 -
[82] - Quote
Ioci wrote:12 mill an hr is the PvE average in EVE.
I barely do pve but when I do I make 30 times that per hour, no sweat.
Risk vs reward though, innit?
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1462
|
Posted - 2012.06.25 13:07:00 -
[83] - Quote
Thorn Galen wrote:Enough to afford iced Quafe and bacon every night. Bacon and cheese. :so jelly: |

Steveir
Hagukure Empire Industry
41
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Posted - 2012.06.25 13:16:00 -
[84] - Quote
Mining (hisec) about 10 Mill an hour Ice mining (hisec) about 5 Mill an hour Missioning about 5 Mill an hour PI (low sec) 15 mill a week
The main thing is, am I having fun? Besides if I had lots of ISK, what would I buy? Since I could buy PLEX and have billions tomorrow, its rather a pointless measure really.
I'm a rat, Eve is a Skinner box; as long as I get the cheese now and again I'm happy. Are you happy? if not, wrong Skinner box, sorry I mean MMO :)
Pavlov's dogs drool ok? |

Signal11th
543
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Posted - 2012.06.25 14:16:00 -
[85] - Quote
I have made 40mil in 3 months.  God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub Like I Give A F--K
1361
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Posted - 2012.06.25 15:57:00 -
[86] - Quote
Nikodiemus wrote:This man here has a brain and is correct. Also, aside from my half assed attempt to troll, to answer your previous question with some more detail, in either the last fanfest or the one previous (I cannot remember which) Dr. Eyjog said the average player had about 600m isk. This matches somewhat other statements from CCP Diagoras so instead of asking how much you make, which is actually very tricky for some people to calculate for a variety of reasons including escrow, cost of goods in production, inventory etc. do some math here based on this average and come to your own conclusion. IIRC that statistic is actually the average amount each character has in it's wallet.
Given the number of cyno alts, forum alts, trading alts, lvl4 alts... It's generally a pretty useless statistic without any back ground information on how the figure was reached.
And I would love to see CCP release more data on how they come to the figures they release, especially if they began linking accounts via IP address and allowing for alts in the statistics they publish. As it stands though quite a lot of the statistics released by CCP are relatively worthless for us to use, although I'm assuming they use considerably more accurate data themselves.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |

Mahdi Shardani
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:39:00 -
[87] - Quote
2mil/h |

Ravan Hekki
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
25
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Posted - 2012.06.25 18:03:00 -
[88] - Quote
No idea daily rate, but between 2 - 6 bil a month |

Elynath
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.25 18:34:00 -
[89] - Quote
2-4b a month trading, which takes about 20 hours during the month. Not terribly good, but enough for my playing habits. |

IGNATIUS HOOD
Zephyr Corp Black Thorne Alliance
321
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Posted - 2012.06.25 18:49:00 -
[90] - Quote
~passively - 100m a day from a low impact PI operation ~actively - 50-100m a hour sleeper loot and site dependent
'perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim'
Be patient and tough; some day this pain will be useful to you.
~I fly spaceships~ |
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Rer Eirikr
SniggWaffe
116
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Posted - 2012.06.25 18:49:00 -
[91] - Quote
Nicki Larsen wrote:Mighty have to find a real good fit for a Proteus long range.
Don't do this. I love the Proteus to death but its just no where near as good as a Tengu for PvE. |

Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
199
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Posted - 2012.06.25 18:55:00 -
[92] - Quote
Rer Eirikr wrote:Nicki Larsen wrote:Mighty have to find a real good fit for a Proteus long range. Don't do this. I love the Proteus to death but its just no where near as good as a Tengu for PvE. Just get a carrier if you're spending more than a bil There should be a rather awesome pic here |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
322
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Posted - 2012.06.25 19:11:00 -
[93] - Quote
Copine Callmeknau wrote:Rer Eirikr wrote:Nicki Larsen wrote:Mighty have to find a real good fit for a Proteus long range. Don't do this. I love the Proteus to death but its just no where near as good as a Tengu for PvE. Just get a carrier if you're spending more than a bil
Just takes about:
+6 months to train drones and have them effective/not top but very good skills -unless you want strict minimum to just move stuff around and profit capital ships skill for Drednaught.
Train capitals + carrier dedicated skills like jump drive op etc, cyno 5, portal generator etc another 6 months
Then be ready to go rep POS or play holy priests in space, no thx. Rather put a good bil in a nice ship (Tengu) and have very good fun with. (training stirct minimum thou but only to move stuff and "tactical logistics reconf" it's a "no way' on my book brb |

Mons Pubis Giganticus
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.06.26 04:18:00 -
[94] - Quote
i stopped actively earning isk a year and a half ago. i haven't worried about it since. maybe next year. |

Joe Everyguy
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.06.26 04:19:00 -
[95] - Quote
Nowhere near enough. |
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