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setozero	Posted - 2010.01.22 03:01:00 - [31] Originally by: Roshin Lokel Originally by: Rommel Cervantis Tranquility is down due to a database failover. We estimate to be back online at 0300 GMT/UTC after a year from eve, i came back to a buggier game then i remembered and constant problems Sad Panda is Sad :( The code is a bit more complex then when you left possibly eitherway I dont care how many people flame me for sayig this but the quality control for this game is really bad. There just isn't enough extensive testing given. Yeah yeah that may be the same with other games but ccp has set a higher standard in the past and has seriously dropped the ball over the last few years. they dont charge us 30 to 40 dollars per exspansion either. if u want a game where everything is tested because they stand to make 10 mil releasing a expansion then i'm sure they will be more then happy to comply.
AnLann Imeal	Posted - 2010.01.22 03:03:00 - [32] Originally by: setozero Originally by: Roshin Lokel Originally by: Rommel Cervantis Tranquility is down due to a database failover. We estimate to be back online at 0300 GMT/UTC after a year from eve, i came back to a buggier game then i remembered and constant problems Sad Panda is Sad :( The code is a bit more complex then when you left possibly eitherway I dont care how many people flame me for sayig this but the quality control for this game is really bad. There just isn't enough extensive testing given. Yeah yeah that may be the same with other games but ccp has set a higher standard in the past and has seriously dropped the ball over the last few years. they dont charge us 30 to 40 dollars per exspansion either. if u want a game where everything is tested because they stand to make 10 mil releasing a expansion then i'm sure they will be more then happy to comply. Snap, Snap, Snap wake up dude they charge us per month..... keeping interest is how they make the 10 mil.
Roshin Lokel	Posted - 2010.01.22 03:06:00 - [33] Originally by: Holywood Originally by: Roshin Lokel Originally by: Rommel Cervantis Tranquility is down due to a database failover. We estimate to be back online at 0300 GMT/UTC after a year from eve, i came back to a buggier game then i remembered and constant problems Sad Panda is Sad :( The code is a bit more complex then when you left possibly eitherway I dont care how many people flame me for sayig this but the quality control for this game is really bad. There just isn't enough extensive testing given. Yeah yeah that may be the same with other games but ccp has set a higher standard in the past and has seriously dropped the ball over the last few years. I love posts like this. It means there is no shortage of morons to shoot. Not as long as you reply with name calling I guess there arent I enjoy the game and I more then accept there needs to be downtime......thats what ccp gets an hour a day for whats worse is that today they actually had 6 hours and STILL there is trouble....perhaps we need to get new staff over there and complaining doesnt make me a moron its one of the features Im granted to have for paying for my sub. I ask only for top quality gaming and I pay their salary they should be obliged to comply and to ensure these mishaps are less.
Atros Phenigan Minmatar	Posted - 2010.01.22 03:06:00 - [34] I'm just wondering....has CCP ever looked at their system architecture? It seems a bit odd that we live in an age where billions of transactions can be processed every minute with 99.999% uptime (NSK servers for example) and these game servers fail regularly, lag as a matter of course, and need downtime every day. Has CCP heard of a RFP?
setozero	Posted - 2010.01.22 03:07:00 - [35] Originally by: AnLann Imeal Originally by: setozero Originally by: Roshin Lokel Originally by: Rommel Cervantis Tranquility is down due to a database failover. We estimate to be back online at 0300 GMT/UTC after a year from eve, i came back to a buggier game then i remembered and constant problems Sad Panda is Sad :( The code is a bit more complex then when you left possibly eitherway I dont care how many people flame me for sayig this but the quality control for this game is really bad. There just isn't enough extensive testing given. Yeah yeah that may be the same with other games but ccp has set a higher standard in the past and has seriously dropped the ball over the last few years. they dont charge us 30 to 40 dollars per exspansion either. if u want a game where everything is tested because they stand to make 10 mil releasing a expansion then i'm sure they will be more then happy to comply. Snap, Snap, Snap wake up dude they charge us per month..... keeping interest is how they make the 10 mil. obviously you dont understand what i said. thats all they make most games charge you for exspansions ccp is nice enough to give it to you. i'm personally happy with what they are doing.
Herty The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention	Posted - 2010.01.22 03:08:00 - [36] any time the server wants to come back up would be great im running out of ships to fit in eft
Ch'ianna	Posted - 2010.01.22 03:09:00 - [37] Originally by: Atros Phenigan I'm just wondering....has CCP ever looked at their system architecture? It seems a bit odd that we live in an age where billions of transactions can be processed every minute with 99.999% uptime (NSK servers for example) and these game servers fail regularly, lag as a matter of course, and need downtime every day. Has CCP heard of a RFP? How will the Russian Fascist Party help prevent DT?
Gnice Gnate	Posted - 2010.01.22 03:10:00 - [38] I'm thinking about excellence and HTFUing.
Rommel Cervantis	Posted - 2010.01.22 03:16:00 - [39] whats horrible is the fact that it kept giving me and my m8's false hope of it restarting keeps giving countdown then suddenly it did not work, count down again, then freeze.... very twisted ccp..
Roshin Lokel	Posted - 2010.01.22 03:17:00 - [40] obviously you dont understand what i said. thats all they make most games charge you for exspansions ccp is nice enough to give it to you. i'm personally happy with what they are doing. May I also add that those games don't realease expansions every 6 months either and as such have time to fix the issues. CCP gets half down fixing an expansion before they release another. Sooner...or later its going to catch up with them.
setozero	Posted - 2010.01.22 03:24:00 - [41] Originally by: Roshin Lokel obviously you dont understand what i said. thats all they make most games charge you for exspansions ccp is nice enough to give it to you. i'm personally happy with what they are doing. May I also add that those games don't realease expansions every 6 months either and as such have time to fix the issues. CCP gets half down fixing an expansion before they release another. Sooner...or later its going to catch up with them. at least there trying could be worse. even if the game goes down for a few hours i dont know why people complain. theres other things to do with your time. i personally enjoy mixing drinks as a hobby.
Hakaru Ishiwara Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2010.01.22 03:27:00 - [42] Edited by: Hakaru Ishiwara on 22/01/2010 03:29:32 Originally by: AnLann Imeal ... Snap, Snap, Snap wake up dude they charge us per month..... keeping interest is how they make the 10 mil. Finally. Somebody who gets it. CCP rakes in a nice load of cash each month (as well as from GTC sales) to pay for stuff (server up-keep, network access, support cough, etc.). Unless the development of new content is funded by venture capital folks, our monthly tithe is paying for the expansions, i.e., we are on the installment plan. Kudos to CCP for figuring out a way to make that business plan work -- sort of. Buggy patches (both Dominion 1.0 & 1.1) where previously working stuff is repeatedly broken gets annoying as hell and wouldn't be considered 'ok' in other software development initiatives and with their clients. Originally by: setozero Originally by: Roshin Lokel The code is a bit more complex then when you left possibly eitherway I dont care how many people flame me for sayig this but the quality control for this game is really bad. There just isn't enough extensive testing given. Yeah yeah that may be the same with other games but ccp has set a higher standard in the past and has seriously dropped the ball over the last few years. they dont charge us 30 to 40 dollars per exspansion either. if u want a game where everything is tested because they stand to make 10 mil releasing a expansion then i'm sure they will be more then happy to comply. Remember that good quality assurance (QA) ultimately saves CCP money and helps their bottom line. Problems worked out in the beginning of a development life cycle are far cheaper to fix then when they are put into a live environment possibly causing server-side system instability, data issues, client side catastrophes (boot.ini?) or even missed opportunities with potential paying players. QA activities already take place in EVE's development life cycle to one extent or another. The challenge that CCP and its player base is currently facing is that we need improved and more comprehensive QA with these releases. Of Note: CCP has some cool looking QA positions open on their corporate site which we should all hope get filled.
Atros Phenigan Minmatar	Posted - 2010.01.22 03:32:00 - [43] Originally by: Ch'ianna Originally by: Atros Phenigan I'm just wondering....has CCP ever looked at their system architecture? It seems a bit odd that we live in an age where billions of transactions can be processed every minute with 99.999% uptime (NSK servers for example) and these game servers fail regularly, lag as a matter of course, and need downtime every day. Has CCP heard of a RFP? How will the Russian Fascist Party help prevent DT? Request for proposal. Maybe the game (and associated revenue stream) is large enough now to bring in professionals to design their architecture and run their data centers? I don't mean to offend any CCP employees, but in the real world.... The fact that Eve needs a downtime each day is interesting. Imagine your bank telling you they are closing ATM's for an hour each day. The software is certainly art, but the infrastructure required to run it is not. Don't be afraid to hire professional engineers and mechanics.

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