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Amun Khonsu Royal Order of Security Specialists	Posted - 2010.01.26 14:39:00 - [31] Originally by: Dr BattleSmith Generally the matar side is pretty fail. They have a poor culture which has grown from some idiot corps they feature. Amarr is outnumbered atm which makes for some great fights, generally an Amarr fleet of the same size will beat a matar one. While the matar FCs aren't very confident and will often run from a smaller fleet. Which creates lots of room for fast roaming and ganking stragglers. Ask any of the matar who have quit that side to join Amarr and you'll soon findout which side is less stupid. This is a load of *. For ages, the Amarr vastly out numbered the minmatar and would only come out to fight with 4-6 gaurdian reps. Minmatar worked their * off to gain the upper hand and often engaged amarr fleets double their size who often disengaged and ran back to High sec. Now that the minmatar have gained the fruits of their labor and gotten the upper hand, we still dont turn back to high sec. We occupy and freely roam all FW systems while you all remain in tuomota docked up waiting for fleet commanders to log on. We worked hard against far superior odds and now you are whining blob everytime you see a fleet of 4 or more minnies. FW sides will never be equal. That is the nature of war. Get over it. Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts.
David Devant Gallente CTRL-Q	Posted - 2010.01.26 14:40:00 - [32] With regards to the spai thing. You will have trouble getting into the secure channels untill you've got a good kill record. However there are plenty of open fleets (of variable quality) to fly with and many good corps will take you on without sifting through your personal hanger for copies of the Pax Amarria. Give it a go. It's good a crack.
Eran Mintor Minmatar Valklear Guard	Posted - 2010.01.26 14:51:00 - [33] Originally by: Pel Ukken Originally by: BattleStar Crusader Edited by: BattleStar Crusader on 26/01/2010 10:29:54 rabble rabble FW is fun and you all know it. Both sides pull the same **** all the time... running, hotdropping, neutral rep, spies etc etc. We just love to complain about it when we don't like the results. ------------------------------------------------
BattleStar Crusader Amarr Absinthe Brothers	Posted - 2010.01.26 15:00:00 - [34] Rofl, Ive been in this militia for well over a year and a half now and I have only seen the enemy engage a larger fleet no more than 10 times. It's a cycle you now have the number as the amarr cycle pilots. I think most of the recent engage ments prove that the amarr won't back down from a fight, just look at your own killboard. You will find that guardians on the other hand seem to be part of a game and they also seem to be designed to keep ships alive, I'm also fairly certain that whilst you continualy moaned about our use of logistics we were regularly killing you scimitars behind your lines. Thus proving you little emo rage up there rather contradictory. I don't particularly care about the othersides view becuase it will always be different but facts are fact my friend and when they come from your own killboard you gotta stand by them. Work is boring keep me entertained!!!!
Onin Ra 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2010.01.26 16:27:00 - [35] If you enjoy flying in somewhat big fleets (20-40) sure, join minimatar, i see them fielding these kind of numbers almost every day, so you'll get plenty of that. Lots of fun forthose who like it im guessing. Small gang warfare is rare, and solo warfare is mostly non-existant. How do you get off by callin a person who doesnt have a single solo kill on last 4 pagegs of his killboard a solo artist is beyond me BSC :D --- First pvp expirience in eve is alot like having first sex, you have absolutely no idea what you are doing, but it is exciting and one way or another its over way too fast.
Kijo Rikki Caldari Swarm of Angry Bees	Posted - 2010.01.26 16:45:00 - [36] Hai there, minmatar fw player here....just fyi, I don't fly big fleets, I fly little 4 man gangs....where were you?
BattleStar Crusader Amarr Absinthe Brothers	Posted - 2010.01.26 16:47:00 - [37] No i meant they fly in pretty patterns all by themselves onin. God i thought you would know this by now. Carib has given some amazing work, pink elephants a Vase with some flowers on it. All from the thruster trail of his engines
LHA Tarawa	Posted - 2010.01.26 17:42:00 - [38] I'll chime in again.... though probably not wanted. The titan was a shiny new toy that we had little to no experience with. Much of the weekend's hot dropping 30 BCs onto 3 cruises was training. I doubt we'll be doing that on a regular basis. As for few flying alone... I'm not sure how the enemy could know if they were baited by a large fleet, or if they engaged a solo or small group, the fight got reported, and a bunch of people just showed up to who re onto the kill mail. I know both happen quite often, and unless you have spies telling you which it was, how would you know? That said, I mostly fly in blobs. As I've said in a prior post, I'm a noob. I'll add that I'm a total suck, total fail, total lame PVPer. If I were to fly alone.... well, I'd just be emptying my corp's hanger. As for large fleets running from smaller, again, seen it on both sides. Sometimes we just choose not to fight, and sometimes we are sitting there scratching our heads trying to figure out why the other side decided not to fight. Many, MANY times I've seen one side set up for long range and the other set up for short, and they sit there on opposite sides of the gate, each waiting for the other to jump into their trap.... each claiming they have the smaller fleet... and they get board and leave. In general, what each side wants is some good fights, kills to post to the kill boards, and mass destruction all around so our industrial alts have customers.
LHA Tarawa	Posted - 2010.01.26 17:52:00 - [39] AND.... Battlestar Crusader will be missed by me, and I've heard others express regret as well. Very good pilot and when he was on, we knew we had a good chance of getting a good fight. Truely, sad to see him go. Hopefully the Amarr will be able to recruit some more corps to replace this loss. Respect from you enemy is a thing hard earned, and Battlestar Crusader is only one of many Amarr that have the respect of many Minmatar.
BattleStar Crusader Amarr Absinthe Brothers	Posted - 2010.01.26 18:40:00 - [40] I'm hounered by your comments and when we leave next month our enemy's from minmatar will hold a place in our hearts for the damn good fights and lessons you have tuaght us. Respect

Ralnik Mutineers	Posted - 2010.01.26 18:58:00 - [41] Edited by: Ralnik on 26/01/2010 18:59:43 FW is not dead. The reason for the lack of Amarr at the moment is due to the Amarr Milita having a drawn out drama campaign between two of their corps. Two of the largest Amarr FW corps got into a ****ing match over a POS that was blown up by one of the two corps. This caused the two corps to start fighting each other and even involved a 3rd party Merc war dec. One of the two corps had managed to recruit most of the Amarr FC's and a good percentage of their active PVPers. That corp left after the war decs and is no longer involved in FW. This left Amarr mostly in shambles with not a lot of active members willing to undock. Up until this point, Amarr were blobbing around with 30 to 40 man gangs with as many as 6 to 8 guardians and 15 BS's as a average gang. Now that the corp with all their FC's is gone the Mimatar blobs go somewhat unchecked. In the mean time a few Pirate corps have managed to blue half of low sec and now blob around as much as any FW Militia. Meaning there is pleanty to shoot at even if there are no Amarr around. Not to mention Minmatar run raids into Providence several times a day at this point. In Providence alone, the Minmatar have 2,737 kills this month. Minmatar Militia has 5,827 kills in Amamake alone for the month of January. That's almost 6k kills in one low sec system. Meaning the area is far from dead and vacant, but at times it does feel that way. On the plus side there is quite a bit more opportunity to go out and solo roam, because typically the Amarr you do see are in small groups, but they are slowly becoming more active. I figure give it another month or so and Amarr will be able to start fighting back a bit more. On the flip side if you want a lot of targets, join the Amarr because there are a lot of us Minmatar flying around at the moment.
LHA Tarawa	Posted - 2010.01.26 19:33:00 - [42] One last thing.... What I've noticed is that you always underestimate your own strength and overestimate the enemy. They have 3 BS and we have 6 BC? Oh, that's an advantage to them. We have 3 BS but they have 6 BC? Oh, that's an advantage to them. Last weekend we really wanted a fight and thought it was an even match. The Amarr went back into Tuomoto. Most of their fleet was sitting inside the gate. We jumped in after them and had an extended battle with us vs Amarr, their navy, and the gate guns. The battle was long enough that some Amarr were gently placed into their pods, docked, reshipped, and then came back to the still raging fight. If it was as close as we thought before we jumped in, no way could we have held our ground that long. No wonder they were in Tuo shipping up.
Zverofaust Gallente Gunship Diplomacy	Posted - 2010.01.26 19:59:00 - [43] If you want low-risk PVP sitting around in overkill-sized fleets for easy kills, Minmatar is for you. Not that there's anything generally wrong with that, it sustained me for quite some time. Case in point, in the last large fleet battle I took part in a couple of days ago the Minmatar deluged our 30-man fleet with a 60-man fleet that had more battleships than we had fleet members, as well as 6 Blackbirds and a Rook and a Scorpion or something equally ridiculous. Both sides are pretty identical however and 6-8 months ago it was Amarr who were rolling around in hilarious uberblobs making every Minnie in a 10 jump radius (myself included) ** themselves in station. Tides change. No idea how Caldari/Gallente are doing. I hear Gallente are blobbing the out of everywhere boringly while Caldari are busy still being plex*s. The Hero of Kamela The Terror of Tararan The Executioner of Ezzara
Pel Ukken Vitharr's Vengeance	Posted - 2010.01.26 22:10:00 - [44] my apologies to the OP, this has become a FW-wahwah post. as you can see, fights are pretty common in FW. how/what you fight is your choice. plenty of small gangs rolling about, solo is not dead, and fleets are active on a daily basis. as to all the rabblerabble **** everyone has posted (myself included)... we all love to complain. it's part of the game.
Caleb Fury Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.01.27 00:00:00 - [45] Originally by: TraininVain You guys smacktalking like this is CAOD and FW is serious business are hilarious. FW is the minigolf of PVP. If you're taking it this seriously you're probably doing it wrong.
Insa Rexion Minmatar CTRL-Q	Posted - 2010.01.27 06:26:00 - [46] Edited by: Insa Rexion on 27/01/2010 06:31:26 Originally by: Onin Ra If you enjoy flying in somewhat big fleets (20-40) sure, join minimatar, i see them fielding these kind of numbers almost every day, so you'll get plenty of that. Lots of fun forthose who like it im guessing. Small gang warfare is rare, and solo warfare is mostly non-existant. How do you get off by callin a person who doesnt have a single solo kill on last 4 pagegs of his killboard a solo artist is beyond me BSC :D Confirming BSC's perception of fact is whatever comes into his head as he types (badly) EDIT : and this character in addition to the quality fights he and his often brought will also be sadly missed Take it easy guys, didn't realise it was for good this time :( -------------------------------------------- well mannered ****ole
Insa Rexion Minmatar CTRL-Q	Posted - 2010.01.27 06:37:00 - [47] Originally by: Caleb Fury Originally by: TraininVain You guys smacktalking like this is CAOD and FW is serious business are hilarious. FW is the minigolf of PVP. If you're taking it this seriously you're probably doing it wrong. 0.0 alt nerd missing the point that we smack but still love each other really whilst bestowing the revelation that "0.0 internet spaceships REALLY IS srs bsns" is hilarious. FW is the fun/funny side of PvP. If you think yours is the only game in Eve, you're probably doing it wrong -------------------------------------------- well mannered ****ole
Costomojin	Posted - 2010.01.27 08:58:00 - [48] Thanks for the reply's folks I appreciate it, and I'm also excited to see a thread that I started go past page one. Perhaps this post can reignite the race war and more folks will want to kill each other Anyway, I have joined Tribal Liberation and am in the process of setting up various frigates, destroyers, and a couple of cruisers for fighting (as money and skills allow of course) How does one actually go about capturing a system? I know plexing is involved but I'm not sure exactly of the over all procedure.
Mehira Am'kul Absinthe Brothers	Posted - 2010.01.27 10:01:00 - [49] Faction Warfare Guide Faction Warfare Resources If you really like eve pvp, you'll learn many things in FW. Try everything, solo, small gang, skirmishing, larger fleets, blobs, gate camps, plexing. Don't hesitate to ask questions. There are always players willing to help you. See you in space. my combat record
Emperor Cheney Celebrity Sex Tape	Posted - 2010.01.27 10:34:00 - [50] Edited by: Emperor Cheney on 27/01/2010 10:35:12 Originally by: Insa Rexion ITT newer guy asks for general info about FW and gets treated to a whine and cheeze partay. Still want to join mate ? It's a pretty good intro, yes? So yeah, this is FW. A bunch of people whining about "blobs" and using words like "courage" to describe actions in a spaceship video game. And so, so many hurt feelings. What's really sad is, the Amarr v Minmatar side is actually less full of annoying bluster than the Gal v Caldari. It's a sad scene. But, if you want to fight and don't have the time for nullsec, it's a hell of a lot better option than empire wars. And perhaps the greatest thing about FW - it's cheap, so you don't need to carebear it up much unless you want to. If you show up in t1 cruisers and frigs, that's great. That is just fine. I've yet to find another part of the game where a similar attitude prevails.

Nephilim Xeno Caldari 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2010.01.27 12:04:00 - [51] Originally by: Costomojin How does one actually go about capturing a system? By exploiting and abusing imbalanced game mechanics mostly but you better contact sasawong or electus matari if you want to know exactly how to exploit your way through FW plexing ;)
Pel Ukken Vitharr's Vengeance	Posted - 2010.01.27 13:07:00 - [52] Originally by: Nephilim Xeno Originally by: Costomojin How does one actually go about capturing a system? By exploiting and abusing imbalanced game mechanics mostly but you better contact sasawong or electus matari if you want to know exactly how to exploit your way through FW plexing ;) Another option is to contact Damar and/or PERVS. They may leave halfway through the job, which is actually a good thing since you will be able to say stuff like "we didn't want that system anyways" or "plexing is broken and SUXXX (when it isn't us who are exploiting it)". Welcome to Minmatar BTW o7
waruiushiro Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2010.01.27 13:57:00 - [53] ABC leaving FW? Then WTF are we supposed to shoot at? Going up against PIE's plexing gangs all by yourself does not a faction war make. All this blob complaining is idiotic. If side A can't field as many or more ships than side B, then that fact is not side B's problem/fault. It's what these discussions always devolve into. You blob, I blob, etc etc. Speaking as someone who's been in FW longer than 90% of those in it now, there's been the full range. I've lost count of the number of times Minmatar gangs have leeroy'd into a larger Amarr gang that suddenly gets even larger when the fight starts. And yeah, we historically have had superior numbers and enjoy our blobby ganks. We have a good snicker about it afterwards. tl;dr, wardec or STFU, and we're already wardecced, so STFU. PS - o7 Raimo. FW needs moar Raimo.
Lugalzagezi666	Posted - 2010.01.27 14:24:00 - [54] I always found minnie/amarr fw fun, no idea why are you all complaining etc. Also i suggest you all do more solo/small gang pvp, much better chance for great fight than in The Blob.
LHA Tarawa	Posted - 2010.01.27 17:30:00 - [55] Here is how dead FW is. This morning I'm sitting at my PC waiting for Tranq to start accepting connections. I'm first on in Auga. A minute later a anti-plexing fleet is up hoping to stop Amarr from taking plexes in Ezzara. I'm one of the first Minmatar into Ezzara, but we're badly outnumbered so I just hop safe to safe waiting for others. Eventually we get there and go into the plex expecting 6 v 4. Soon after the fight starts, it is 6 v 10 and we run. Not sure if we lost anyone but also don't think we killed anyone. I log for 10-15 to run my son to school. Come back, and we're putting up a larger fleet together to go chase them out. We rush in and kill, I think, 6 (2BS, 2BC, 1frig, 1 logistics) in exchage for 2 losses. Good fight. They whine about mismatched numbers. Well, bring more numbers. We ship down and go plexing for an hour and a half or so. Then reports of a BC Amarr fleet in Kam. We rush back to Auga to ship back up. They move into Auga and camp Amamake gate. We going BS/BC again? "No", says the FC. "We don't want to chase them off. We want a fight. Let's go BC down." As we're ready to go, we see them run and we think we're not going to get a fight, so we chase to Kam, Kourm... We meet them at the Huola gate. One Amarr jumps. Thinking their whole fleet is jumping, we jump our tackle through. The rest of them hold. Both sides have each other locked, but neither shooting because they want to be able to jump if the other jumps. Seems like forever we just sitting there. One of our BC's engage to see if they'll start shooting. They don't. After about a minute, they jump. We follow. A fun battle follows were we Minmatar gut OWNED. We killed 5 of them, they killed 10 of us. After action follow-up on our part. The one Amarr ship that jumped was the curse. The stare down on the Kam side of the gate was to give time for the curse to burn to range. When we jumped through, he was out of range of our largly AC fit fleet. And, we didn't send the small ships to burn out to him, nor did we try to move into drone range to drive him off field. The curse was able to one-by-one neut our cap and take down our active tank, then they'd primary that ship and take it out. He was also able to neut away our ECM. Not to mention, we started the fight one BC down. The fight was probably close to even in ship size/count, but they definately got the better of us on tactics. I personally made several tactical errors in the fight. Being arty fit (yeah, I know, first error), I burned away from the fight when it started. When it was my turn to be primaried, I had time and distance to be able to warp out to nearest celestial. And when I came back with 10% shield, I stupidly warped to 0 on the gate. Doh. Do I jump? No my fleet mates need the DPS. So I engage. Very soon after, I'm again primary, aggro'ed, close enough for warp disruptors, and... pop. Got the pod out. Good thing since I'd just clone jumped into a much more expensive clone. Live and learn. And in Eve, die and learn even more.
Ralnik Mutineers	Posted - 2010.01.27 19:07:00 - [56] Edited by: Ralnik on 27/01/2010 19:07:57 Originally by: Nephilim Xeno By exploiting and abusing imbalanced game mechanics mostly but you better contact sasawong or electus matari if you want to know exactly how to exploit your way through FW plexing ;) This is pretty ironic coming from a guy that uses a neutral logistics pilot in every fight. Not to mention the fact you were right there shooting the bunkers after the Pervs started making Minmatar systems vulnerable by the standings exploit. Hello Pot.. meet the Kettle..
Andrea Griffin	Posted - 2010.01.27 19:49:00 - [57] Originally by: Throckbane Also, enslaving people is fun. This.
Insa Rexion Minmatar CTRL-Q	Posted - 2010.01.27 21:15:00 - [58] Originally by: Nephilim Xeno Originally by: Costomojin How does one actually go about capturing a system? By exploiting and abusing imbalanced game mechanics mostly but you better contact sasawong or electus matari if you want to know exactly how to exploit your way through FW plexing ;) shsh everyone, mister holier than thou, never used a shady game mechanic in his life speaks and we shall listen. How is Amon Xeno anyway, still neut repping up a storm ? -------------------------------------------- well mannered ****ole


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