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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Special Projects Executive The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.26 18:28:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Devilish Ledoux I would just like to say, in all seriousness, death to infidels.
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Zex Maxwell
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.26 18:29:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Guy DeLusignan Despite complaints, CCP's GMs continue to allow offensive remarks against real-life religions.
In specific reference to Goonswarms continued usage of Islamic terms like 'Jihad' and using the term 'Allah' in their posts as well as their campaigns.
Why do you allow this to happen CCP? You drop the ban hammer if a corp uses a **** reference but at the same time you allow such deviants to use RL religious terms and in doing so, allow and even encourage non-Muslims to think Islam is a religion of terror.
The so called Jihadswarm is bad enough but I draw the line when GS uses Allah Akbar's Strip Club as a corporation and CONTINUE to allow it..
CCP as per your EULA/TOS:
2. You may not use any abusive, defamatory, ethnically or racially offensive, harassing, harmful, hateful, obscene, offensive, sexually explicit, threatening or vulgar language. (Alternate spelling or partial masking of such words will be reprimanded in the same manner as the actual use of such words.)
3. You may not organize nor be a member of any corporation or group within EVE Online that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies
So CCP are you discrimantory yourselves? And to Goonswarm, burn in hell (as per your sovereign loss!)
They are talking about hate groups that is geared to REAL LIFE. Since this is happening in game, and only geared to in game events. Its nothing more then a reflection of real life religions.
The only time when its starts to be Illegal, Goonswarm will have to have a channel under their name that does nothing but talk about how the USA or any other country are evil. The channel must also be used for planning a terrest attack or other REAL LIFE crime.
As CCP say about ingame events and its agreed to must of the eve player base: HTFU
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El'Niaga
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.01.26 18:37:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Lead Six Grow up. If God wanted people to be blind followers of a faith then he would have made us robots and not given us free will. Religion is just an excuse so people don't have to hold themselves responsible for their own actions.
-LS
We are all responsible for our own actions. In games, in life, what we write, what we listen too, etc. It is part of our progression in this life. Such choices though also have either benefits or consequences.
You are correct though God could have chosen the other plan. The plan that Satan put forth. That was that we would all come here and none of us would have a choice and all would be 'saved' and surely since he would do this all power and glory should be his.
God rejected that plan and instead chose to follow the plan proposed by Jesus, that is that we would each come here without memory of that which had gone before and that we would have opportunity to choose good or evil according to our whim. While we choose our actions the consequences of those actions are dependent upon them and nothing else.
That's the great gift of life. We are free to choose our destiny. We are all eternal but what we do with eternity is directly dependent on all the choices we make.
We should though be respectful of others religions even as we should be of their races. It is only right that we show others the same courtesy we would expect. Whether we are face to face with them, or playing a game with them.
CCP could have blocked more names and such but they chose not to do so, but just because they chose not to do it does not mean we should use that as cause or justification to demean others and their beliefs with words so not blocked.
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fibago
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Posted - 2010.01.26 18:37:00 -
[94]
Edited by: fibago on 26/01/2010 18:38:39 succesful troll is succesful, the OP doesnt care about muslims feelings he's just trying and succeeding to some extent to infect us all with that curse that is religious discussions, maybe because he is obsessed with muslims and seeing hes characters name i would think hes just another euro trash obsessed with muslims because tv told him so ( universal charia blablabla be afraid ! ) and altought he never ever seen one actually, in the meantime the ones ****ing ur precious western civilisation hide among u and wear armani costards when they lend u ur own money at 30 % interest
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Jimmi Bones
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Posted - 2010.01.26 18:51:00 -
[95]
HAHHAHA this thread is funny.
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ZENZATION
MeMento.
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Posted - 2010.01.26 19:03:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Krack Hed
Originally by: Dr Neba Edited by: Dr Neba on 26/01/2010 17:33:56 who cares about any of your false religion's
this is eve, no place for this here
please move the post to "Out of Pod Experience"
Actually since this is about religion shouldn't it go to "EvE Fiction"?
oh snap
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bnogo
Caldari Maelstrom Crew Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2010.01.26 19:13:00 -
[97]
i couldn't read all the posts. but i would like to add one thing to the op, that may have been said already.
you quoting the TOS is pointless. 2) what does that statement have to do with the religious based corps? unless you are assuming muslims are all arabic? which in itself is racist. bastard. don't be stupid.
3)how is a corp based on jihad anti-religious? clearly in RL there is a faction of islam that believes that to be an accurate interpretation of a religion. just as they may view it that way, so may some in eve view it that way. now obviously you are correct in how they are using it to imply said bad things about islam, it is a real fact. just as the catholics had the inquisition. we all have the darkness. there are always people who will bend a religion to their own sadistic needs.
that is why it is allowed. p.s. **** goons
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Borgh Brainbasher
Path of Now and Forever
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Posted - 2010.01.26 19:19:00 -
[98]
OP: use more exclamation marks, maybe ccp will notice those
(one just looks a bit weak, three works but using more is the sign of a madman)
Quote: you are on the pvp only server
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Captain Mastiff
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Posted - 2010.01.26 19:26:00 -
[99]
derp
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Shawshanke
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Posted - 2010.01.26 19:26:00 -
[100]
I am also offended.... but now that I have reached page 4 I forgot what we were talking about....
Was it insurance? mission runners? can flippers? miners? Low/high sec? Pirates? Panhandlers... oops, I'm mean ninjas? Station games/high sec wardecs?
It all offends me, just nerf/buff all of them.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2010.01.26 19:27:00 -
[101]
Nice troll, but it makes me sad when I realise that there's loads of people who seriously feel that they somehow have the right not to be offended.
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Lead Six
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Posted - 2010.01.26 19:36:00 -
[102]
Originally by: El'Niaga
Originally by: Lead Six Grow up. If God wanted people to be blind followers of a faith then he would have made us robots and not given us free will. Religion is just an excuse so people don't have to hold themselves responsible for their own actions.
-LS
We are all responsible for our own actions. In games, in life, what we write, what we listen too, etc. It is part of our progression in this life. Such choices though also have either benefits or consequences.
You are correct though God could have chosen the other plan. The plan that Satan put forth. That was that we would all come here and none of us would have a choice and all would be 'saved' and surely since he would do this all power and glory should be his.
God rejected that plan and instead chose to follow the plan proposed by Jesus, that is that we would each come here without memory of that which had gone before and that we would have opportunity to choose good or evil according to our whim. While we choose our actions the consequences of those actions are dependent upon them and nothing else.
That's the great gift of life. We are free to choose our destiny. We are all eternal but what we do with eternity is directly dependent on all the choices we make.
We should though be respectful of others religions even as we should be of their races. It is only right that we show others the same courtesy we would expect. Whether we are face to face with them, or playing a game with them.
CCP could have blocked more names and such but they chose not to do so, but just because they chose not to do it does not mean we should use that as cause or justification to demean others and their beliefs with words so not blocked.
The problem with that logic is we do remember. We also hate and kill in the name of God those who are different. We are merely creatures that are aware of our own existence.
If God has all of the power in the universe and truly wanted us to make a choice, he would have offed Satan in the beginning and let us decide without influence one way or the other.
At best your faith dictates nothing more than that God and Satan play games with our lives.
-LS
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Hecatonis
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Posted - 2010.01.26 19:54:00 -
[103]
my only regret is reading this through to the end.
i offend myself because of my inability not to post how dumb most people are for getting into this argument thus egging people into make silly/biggoted comments.
that is all, let the thread die and walk away people.
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Syringe
Incura
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Posted - 2010.01.26 20:04:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Captain Mastiff derp
This --------- War isn't the answer. However, the objective isn't to provide answers rather than eliminate the question. |

Zartanic
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.26 20:05:00 -
[105]
Some people get a kick out of being offended and a warm feeling of smug self satisfaction. Goonswarm are doing them a favour. The rest of us have a sense of proportion and don't give a toss.
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Seishi Maru
The Black Dawn Gang
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Posted - 2010.01.26 20:30:00 -
[106]
Jihad just means crusade for their language. Nothing ofensive on that.. there is even a ship named crusader in game.. and amamr empire emply their own crusades.
Alah is just how they call OGD, nothing offensive on that. In fact is the NON offenseive way of callign it sicne its true name is the one that you should not say in vain. There are HUNDREDS of referneces to GOD written in english.. why not in other language?
People need to learn to be less ignorant....
Now... startign a thread liek this.. that shoudl be bannable.
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Bodrul
Caldari Polaris Rising Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.26 20:32:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Seishi Maru Jihad just means crusade for their language. Nothing ofensive on that.. there is even a ship named crusader in game.. and amamr empire emply their own crusades.
Alah is just how they call OGD, nothing offensive on that. In fact is the NON offenseive way of callign it sicne its true name is the one that you should not say in vain. There are HUNDREDS of referneces to GOD written in english.. why not in other language?
People need to learn to be less ignorant....
Now... startign a thread liek this.. that shoudl be bannable.
on your ignorant statement maybe you should learn what Jihad actuily means ;)
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Awesome Possum
Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2010.01.26 20:39:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Bodrul
Originally by: Seishi Maru Jihad just means crusade for their language. Nothing ofensive on that.. there is even a ship named crusader in game.. and amamr empire emply their own crusades.
Alah is just how they call OGD, nothing offensive on that. In fact is the NON offenseive way of callign it sicne its true name is the one that you should not say in vain. There are HUNDREDS of referneces to GOD written in english.. why not in other language?
People need to learn to be less ignorant....
Now... startign a thread liek this.. that shoudl be bannable.
on your ignorant statement maybe you should learn what Jihad actuily means ;)
Maybe you should learn what something "actually" means is based upon how its perceived in the real world by the majority of people.
Quote: Islamic military jurisprudence focuses on regulating the conditions and practice of Jihad as-sayf, the only form of warfare permissible under Islamic law, and thus the term Jihad is usually used in fiqh manuals in reference to military combat
brb-blt ♥
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Trader20
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Posted - 2010.01.26 20:50:00 -
[109]
Finally something me and CCP agrees with 
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Shmeria
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Posted - 2010.01.26 20:58:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Guy DeLusignan Despite complaints, CCP's GMs continue to allow offensive remarks against real-life religions.
In specific reference to Goonswarms continued usage of Islamic terms like 'Jihad' and using the term 'Allah' in their posts as well as their campaigns.
Why do you allow this to happen CCP? You drop the ban hammer if a corp uses a **** reference but at the same time you allow such deviants to use RL religious terms and in doing so, allow and even encourage non-Muslims to think Islam is a religion of terror.
The so called Jihadswarm is bad enough but I draw the line when GS uses Allah Akbar's Strip Club as a corporation and CONTINUE to allow it..
CCP as per your EULA/TOS:
2. You may not use any abusive, defamatory, ethnically or racially offensive, harassing, harmful, hateful, obscene, offensive, sexually explicit, threatening or vulgar language. (Alternate spelling or partial masking of such words will be reprimanded in the same manner as the actual use of such words.)
3. You may not organize nor be a member of any corporation or group within EVE Online that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies
So CCP are you discrimantory yourselves? And to Goonswarm, burn in hell (as per your sovereign loss!)
Hmm... Guy DeLusignan.... a crusader (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_of_Lusignan).
Seriously? I detect a Goon alt, this sort of desperate play for attention is their style.
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Bodrul
Caldari Polaris Rising Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.26 21:04:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: Bodrul
Maybe you should learn what something "actually" means is based upon how its perceived in the real world by the majority of people.
brb-blt
well this is how Majority Muslims see the word and most none Muslims who research it, cant blame the fox news crew and Bin ladin followers for just seeing it as one word 
Quote: Jihad is an Arabic word from the root Jee Ha Da. It literally means to
struggle or strive. Jihad is struggling or striving in the way or sake of
Allah. Jihad takes a very important status in the doctrine of Islam and is
one of the basic duties for every Muslim.
Though, it has nothing whatsoever to do with the term Holy War. Such
a term, or its equivalent doesnÆt exist in the Islamic doctrine. The Christian
Crusaders in the mid-ages invented this ideology of Holy War.
There is nothing ôHolyö about wars. Wars only involve killings and disasters!
link 1
question on Jihad with answer
link for quote
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Armoured C
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.26 21:14:00 -
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Edited by: Armoured C on 26/01/2010 21:16:01
Originally by: Guy DeLusignan
3. You may not organize nor be a member of any corporation or group within EVE Online that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies
Originally by: Guy DeLusignan In specific reference to Goonswarms continued usage of Islamic terms like 'Jihad' and using the term 'Allah' in their posts as well as their campaigns.
at what point is this saying jihad and allah anti religious. it is that reason why isnt hasnt been banned because it not being anti-religious. your turning it religious yourself.
pull your finger out of 2008 it not a bannable offence HTFU
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2010.01.26 21:16:00 -
[113]
I want to say so many naughty things about religion here but I don't want to disappoint Navigator :((
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James Tritanius
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Posted - 2010.01.26 21:20:00 -
[114]
Grow. Up.
Seriously.
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Shmeria
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Posted - 2010.01.26 21:26:00 -
[115]
Originally by: James Tritanius Grow. Up.
Seriously.
Read post above - goon alt. Rest tl;dr. |

MollyPuss
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Posted - 2010.01.26 21:27:00 -
[116]
Personally for some time I have felt that if an Amarr pilot was to self destruct his pod he should get 40 virgins in his hangar............ This is the thread for these type of discussions no?
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Awesome Possum
Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2010.01.26 21:36:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Bodrul
Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: Bodrul
Maybe you should learn what something "actually" means is based upon how its perceived in the real world by the majority of people.
brb-blt
well this is how Majority Muslims see the word and most none Muslims who research it, cant blame the fox news crew and Bin ladin followers for just seeing it as one word 
majority muslims huh? is that a new sect, or are you assuming that the majority of muslims world wide see the word "jihad" and DON'T think "death to the infidels! LALALALALALALALALA"
as for "most none muslims who research it"... I also know what a crusade really means, just like most of the world does.. how about muslims?
religious types playing MMOs. shouldn't you all be praying and praising your god of choice. ♥
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2010.01.26 21:38:00 -
[118]
Hey I watch fox news and I clearly understand there are your normal sort of muslims who quite oftenly double facepalm anytime one of these extremist opens thier mouth.
IE Al-quda is more a rebellion group that decided to take some of thier losing fustration out on the US because that nation supports the people they're rebelling against so much. Friend of your Enemey is also your Enemey situation. So to help bolster thier numbers they sprinkle some promise of slavation along with taking your blame for all your troubles out on the americans.
Taliban? bunch of drug dealing thugs that managed to get alot of good deals on russian and american weapons, they're so upset they lost that they're taking thier fustration out on thier own people then try to blame the americans for it still.
Allah is just antoher word for god Jihad is a context meaning stuggel, when used a verb it means to take a part of or become a part of a struggle, used religiously its to become like thier phrophet, which aint all that much different than the christans supposivly trying to be more like thier savior.
I do dare say though for GS I expected better of an insult but it seems to have attracted the close minded to be offended even if they're not islamic themselves. So in that respect GS is ingenious for insulting people outside the target group. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 10JAN10
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Trader20
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Posted - 2010.01.26 21:40:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Nova Fox Hey I watch fox news and I clearly understand there are your normal sort of muslims who quite oftenly double facepalm anytime one of these extremist opens thier mouth.
IE Al-quda is more a rebellion group that decided to take some of thier losing fustration out on the US because that nation supports the people they're rebelling against so much. Friend of your Enemey is also your Enemey situation. So to help bolster thier numbers they sprinkle some promise of slavation along with taking your blame for all your troubles out on the americans.
Taliban? bunch of drug dealing thugs that managed to get alot of good deals on russian and american weapons, they're so upset they lost that they're taking thier fustration out on thier own people then try to blame the americans for it still.
Allah is just antoher word for god Jihad is a context meaning stuggel, when used a verb it means to take a part of or become a part of a struggle, used religiously its to become like thier phrophet, which aint all that much different than the christans supposivly trying to be more like thier savior.
I do dare say though for GS I expected better of an insult but it seems to have attracted the close minded to be offended even if they're not islamic themselves. So in that respect GS is ingenious for insulting people outside the target group.
dude u got trolled
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.01.26 21:45:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Guy DeLusignan Stuff....
Just look at his name, he's trolling for sure.
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