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Steel Rage	Posted - 2010.01.27 08:20:00 - [1] How much does CCP want for a lifetime membership? It seems all I can do is train skills at the moment. Put the money in the bank CCP and just take the interest.
Noun Verber Gallente	Posted - 2010.01.27 08:24:00 - [2] How about using some of the skills?
Freyya Advanced Planetary Exports Intergalactic Exports Group	Posted - 2010.01.27 08:31:00 - [3] In earlier days it was possible to buy 30-90-180 and 360 day gtc's. I'm not sure if there ever was a lifetime sub since i've been here after early '06 and there was no lifetime sub back then. If there was ever going to be one i'm betting it'll cost serious dollar nowadays. Problem with the gtc's has become that CCP was most likely losing too much money with prolonged accounts through long term gtc's (especially so with half and full year subs)and they didn't like it anymore. Early days it was a good way to offer longer subs for less because there wheren't that much players around which ment quick bucks for further development. Short term thinking. With more and more coming in it's more and more dollars being lost opposed to the 15$ sub or 36,99$ 60 days. Long term thinking. Simple business solutions but yeah, lifetime sub would cost you at least 500-1000$ these days i imagine. Much unlike STO who's offering lifetime for 200/250$? They're just starting out and need every capital they can get their hands on. Return on investment. ___________ NOW COLLECTING ISD AND CCP AUTOGRAPHS It'll be worth something someday. -Rauth
RaTTuS BIG Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2010.01.27 11:40:00 - [4] I didn't think there where 180 and 360 days GTC, there has never been a lifetime sub, however you can by 12Mths at a time [and I do] -- \| Capital
Freyya Advanced Planetary Exports Intergalactic Exports Group	Posted - 2010.01.27 11:55:00 - [5] First 2 years of my account paid for by 2x 365 day gtc. They existed alright. Time for a "Free 365 days gtc!!" rally not unlike the free CCP Abathur one? ___________ NOW COLLECTING ISD AND CCP AUTOGRAPHS It'll be worth something someday. -Rauth
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2010.01.27 12:04:00 - [6] What did the lifetime membership go for at that Fanfest auction? Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Mashie Saldana Red Federation	Posted - 2010.01.27 12:09:00 - [7] Originally by: Steel Rage How much does CCP want for a lifetime membership? Lifetime subs are for games that will peak and drop within a few months. CCP has no interest in that as they still have people who has been subscribed for 6 years now and the number of subscribers keep on going up. Say no to 24000byte sig limit.
000Hunter000 Gallente Missiles 'R' Us	Posted - 2010.01.27 12:17:00 - [8] Originally by: Mashie Saldana Lifetime subs are for games that will peak and drop within a few months. CCP has no interest in that as they still have people who has been subscribed for 6 years now and the number of subscribers keep on going up. 6 years this april... sigh... I'm feeling really old now ________________________________________________
Niccolado Starwalker Gallente Shadow Templars	Posted - 2010.01.27 12:19:00 - [9] Originally by: Steel Rage How much does CCP want for a lifetime membership? It seems all I can do is train skills at the moment. Put the money in the bank CCP and just take the interest. Try to buy 10 one-year subscriptions, then you have a ten year subscritpion running, and wont have to worry getting money for subscription for the next 10 years! Price: 1320 dolloar or so! Personally I am happy with my 12 month subscription time, but I have been thinking of buying plenty of GTC and stack in to my running subscription! Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2010.01.27 13:28:00 - [10] The problem with Lifetime memberships and the already available 1 year subscriptions, is that the standard response from ccp if you dont like something they have done in the game/customer service is "its our game - if you dont like it go play somthing else" By paying up front for a year - you have no recourse to punishing CCP for any of their failures by withdrawing your subscription. The case could arise whereby the entire eve population payed for three years in advance, and CCP would have carte blanch to meddle with the game in any manner they chose without fear of losing their income Moral of the story - Pay monthly SKUNK (o)

Mashie Saldana Red Federation	Posted - 2010.01.27 14:15:00 - [11] Originally by: Le Skunk The case could arise whereby the entire eve population payed for three years in advance, and CCP would have carte blanch to meddle with the game in any manner they chose without fear of losing their income Moral of the story - Pay monthly SKUNK The problem is the opposite, imagine if all players from 2003-2007 that still play got life time subs (say 3 years cost), by now they wouldn't add any income at all for CCP. Hence lifetime subs will not happen. Say no to 24000byte sig limit.
Maxpie Domination Design Inc. LOADED CONCRETE	Posted - 2010.01.27 14:58:00 - [12] CCP would have lost money, in my case at least, had they offered lifetime membership. He put... creatures... in our bodies... to control our minds. He made us... say lies... do things.
Shirley Serious Amarr The Khanid Sisters of Athra	Posted - 2010.01.27 15:04:00 - [13] Lifetime membership offers are an attempt by the operators to get money now, in advance of providing the service. CCP have already done this, in the form of PLEX. Look at all the ones on market, and on contract. That's game time that's been paid for, but not yet provided. And if you're rich enough, you can set yourself up with a 10-year subscription easy. 30bn isk? not all that much for some. Yes. Yes, I am.
Sokratesz	Posted - 2010.01.27 15:06:00 - [14] A thread was posted awhile ago, I think from Akita T, asking howmuch people would be willing to pay for a lifetime sub. From CCP's perspective, taking in account interest and the possibilities of people quitting game, it would have to be between 5 and 8 years of sub probably. Want to test a supercap on SISI but don't have one?
Mashie Saldana Red Federation	Posted - 2010.01.27 15:08:00 - [15] Edited by: Mashie Saldana on 27/01/2010 15:09:02 Originally by: Shirley Serious CCP have already done this, in the form of PLEX. Look at all the ones on market, and on contract. That's game time that's been paid for, but not yet provided. And if you're rich enough, you can set yourself up with a 10-year subscription easy. 30bn isk? not all that much for some. Each PLEX is paid for by cash so every single month is paid for, if you get a lifetime sub you pay a set amount and at some stage you will play for free where no new money is generated by your subscription. Say no to 24000byte sig limit.
Fuse Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.01.28 05:29:00 - [16] Originally by: Mashie Saldana Edited by: Mashie Saldana on 27/01/2010 15:09:02 Originally by: Shirley Serious CCP have already done this, in the form of PLEX. Look at all the ones on market, and on contract. That's game time that's been paid for, but not yet provided. And if you're rich enough, you can set yourself up with a 10-year subscription easy. 30bn isk? not all that much for some. Each PLEX is paid for by cash so every single month is paid for, if you get a lifetime sub you pay a set amount and at some stage you will play for free where no new money is generated by your subscription. CCP can put the money in the bank that does generate new money. 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you.
Steel Rage	Posted - 2010.01.28 05:34:00 - [17] I wish CCP would comment $600+ is not unreasonable. For me I find it inconvenient keeping the deduction going.
Akira Kurosaw	Posted - 2010.01.28 06:02:00 - [18] Edited by: Akira Kurosaw on 28/01/2010 06:02:04 are you sure subscribtion games are for you, anything with suvscribtions? also the part where you say you can't do anything is just you being silly and limiting yourself, if you could unrap the idea that you need all level 5 skills for "insert name" battleship you would see there a quite a lot to do actually.
rubico1337 Caldari Mnemonic Enterprises	Posted - 2010.01.28 06:33:00 - [19] apparently startrek online offered a limited time lifetime membership sub up until right BEFORE the game came out. thats when i came to the conclusion that not only is that game and extremely terrible game in its own right(i tried beta a bit, the graphics are so terrible they afe offensive) but the developers and the company knows its a terrible game that wont last and they are sucking as much money out of the startrek fanatics as they can before they jump ship a lifetime membership is what happens when companies think that their game wont be around for much longer, so they try to get a sum of cash before people stop subbing. and for this reason i am glad there is no lifetime eve membership Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes.
Seth Darkness Gallente No Limit Productions Looney Toons.	Posted - 2010.01.28 07:24:00 - [20] Edited by: Seth Darkness on 28/01/2010 07:24:56 Multiply 15E with the number of months you expect to live and thats the amount they charge for lifetime membership Forget perfect, I'm trying not to be worthless

Navtiqes Space Sheriff	Posted - 2010.01.28 08:45:00 - [21] Originally by: Mashie Saldana Originally by: Steel Rage How much does CCP want for a lifetime membership? Lifetime subs are for games that will peak and drop within a few months. CCP has no interest in that as they still have people who has been subscribed for 6 years now and the number of subscribers keep on going up. This right here. You can tell the games that'll offer Lifetime subs from the regular ones pretty easy. They have massive hype campaigns pre-launch, huge numbers at launch and terribly sub losses after the first two months. Those are the devs that will go out of their way to offer people lifetime subs, because it's easy profit. Six months later and the game is dead and offline. cough Hellgate: London, I'm looking at you.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.01.28 09:09:00 - [22] Say you'll live around 60 more years. 60 years = 720 months = 360 2-month GTCs. GTCs go for ~$35 so 35x360= $12,600 for your very own lifetime subscription! Also, lifetime subscriptions are only offered by fail games or games that are dying. Originally by: Jim Raynor EVE needs danger, EVE needs risks, EVE needs combat, even piracy, without these things, the game stagnates to a trivial game centering around bloating your wallet with no purpose.
Jim Pooley Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.28 10:06:00 - [23] Edited by: Jim Pooley on 28/01/2010 10:06:46 Originally by: Fuse CCP can put the money in the bank that does generate new money. Would YOU trust an Icelandic bank? ------------------------------------------ Mines a Pint of Large
Erialor Godsent Gallente Federal Navy Support Divison	Posted - 2010.01.28 10:53:00 - [24] Originally by: Vaal Erit Also, lifetime subscriptions are only offered by fail games or games that are dying. I think I can find quite a number of threads stating EVE is dying... --
Armoured C Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.01.28 12:23:00 - [25] Originally by: Navtiqes Originally by: Mashie Saldana Originally by: Steel Rage How much does CCP want for a lifetime membership? Lifetime subs are for games that will peak and drop within a few months. CCP has no interest in that as they still have people who has been subscribed for 6 years now and the number of subscribers keep on going up. This right here. You can tell the games that'll offer Lifetime subs from the regular ones pretty easy. They have massive hype campaigns pre-launch, huge numbers at launch and terribly sub losses after the first two months. Those are the devs that will go out of their way to offer people lifetime subs, because it's easy profit. Six months later and the game is dead and offline. cough Hellgate: London, I'm looking at you. hellgate london isn't dead it has infact been brought back from the dead by a new company who are redesigning it :P
Ydyp Ieva Caldari Amarrian Retribution	Posted - 2010.01.28 12:51:00 - [26] You already get free expansions everytime, and now people want lifetime subscriptions to? Most MMORPGS that offer lifetime subs, work either with a micromarket system and they call them free MMORPG. Or those that brings out regular expansion to pay for the developement. Also those that need a quick money insertion to get it up and running (mostly limited time only). And as far as I can see Eve isn't in any of the categories above so dream on to get a lifetime sub. ---------------------------------- None of yet!
Baneken Gallente	Posted - 2010.01.28 13:01:00 - [27] LOTRO has a life time subscription as well for 200Ç and 150sh for collectors edition owners IIRC. Last time I checked LOTRO is doing pretty well and has it's 4th or 5th free expansion out.
Navtiqes Space Sheriff	Posted - 2010.01.28 13:09:00 - [28] Originally by: Armoured C Originally by: Navtiqes Originally by: Mashie Saldana Originally by: Steel Rage How much does CCP want for a lifetime membership? Lifetime subs are for games that will peak and drop within a few months. CCP has no interest in that as they still have people who has been subscribed for 6 years now and the number of subscribers keep on going up. This right here. You can tell the games that'll offer Lifetime subs from the regular ones pretty easy. They have massive hype campaigns pre-launch, huge numbers at launch and terribly sub losses after the first two months. Those are the devs that will go out of their way to offer people lifetime subs, because it's easy profit. Six months later and the game is dead and offline. cough Hellgate: London, I'm looking at you. hellgate london isn't dead it has infact been brought back from the dead by a new company who are redesigning it :P That's not going to be Hellgate:London. It's Hellgate:Tokyo or something like that. I strongly doubt the lifetime for London carries over to the new one. Partly cause there's no telling how much they're redesigning so it might be more of a remake than a korea-port, and part cause it's another company and for all we know they might go for a microtransactions model instead of subs.


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