The idea of counter-bumping is nothing new. I think I first encountered carebear counter-bumpers on day 1 or 2 of my experiment in Arvasaras. At its height, I was swarmed by a half-dozen counter-bumpers at a time. Some of the more obsessed ones would spend days buzzing around me. However, they proved to be completely ineffective. In all my time as a professional bumper, I have never met a counter-bumper who could actually prevent me from bumping miners. Not even one--and not for lack of volunteers!

Partly that's due to the asymmetric nature of the mechanics involved: Mining vessels are big, lumbering beasts that are much easier to bump than the small, quick bumping ship that I fly. But the other part is simply a matter of skill. Bumping is an art, and I make it look a lot easier than it actually is.

challenge accepted.

edit: timetable moved up

edit2: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13393766

You do realize that KM is from May 17th in some random system... right?

Your point?

All I know is a faction/t2 ishtar was popped by 2 miners, 1 orca, 1 ishtar, and Concord. I'm trying to imagine what the story leading up to that kill was.

The smartbombs are to kill the orca's pod as soon as the orca dies, before it can warp out.

Right. The story behind that is he wanted to kill Orcas. Now, most miners are at least bright enough to scatter when their corp is wardecced, either disbanding and reforming, ceasing their mining activities, whatever. But every once in awhile he'd get one that would see that they'd been wardecced by a one man corp, and would do nothing. The point of the smartbombs is exactly as Weaselior said - that many faction smartbombs in the right order is just enough to kill a pod, if properly timed, even if the Orca pilot had attempted (fruitlessly thanks to aggro mechanics) to log his ship off to save it.

Not entirely sure how concord became involved but I would have to guess that it was an accident involving the smartbombs and that other Ishtar.

for anyone who wanted to know.... heres what happened with his Ishtar death.

Ok so I was flying around poinen, warped 200km off an Abandoned Mining Colony beacon and saw an Ishtar there. Warped next to them to watch the miners die when I noticed he was using smartbombs and thought it would be funny to get him concorded. So I went into the smartbombs, he went red as predicted and I shot him with the assistance of our good old friend concord. The miner was happy and gave a generous donation :)

I encourage you to try this out. I can't imagine it ending well. You need to time your bump to have exactly the right force angle and timing to cancel out the bump.


Otherwise you get:
Bump Ship ---> Miner ------>
<----------------------------- Counter Bump (argh!)

Or................................^
Bump Ship ---> Miner /
..............................^
...............................\ Counter Bump (argh!)


Also, I'd like to reserve 10 shares in the next round. I hope this business expands.