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panrix2
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Posted - 2010.01.30 11:55:00 -
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Believe it or not, you can go work for the mining corps in EVE and they give you the suckiest of mining missions where there are virtually no rats of any value and ores which can't be bought or sold to anywhere else.
There's not even a random massive sellable asteroid (the equivalent to a faction drop) in any of the missions.
They are a waste of oxygen.
Remove this rubbish from eve or make it fun, either is a positive outcome.
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Sep'Shoni
Carpe Diem inc.
Celestial Shadows
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Posted - 2010.01.30 13:49:00 -
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Yes, please.
I love to mine but I decline all these pointless, worthless missions because nearly anything else I can do in Eve short of afk mining in low-sec is more entertaining and profitable.
Sep'Shoni
Mining ore and making stuff. Its not just a job, its an obsession. |
Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.01.30 18:43:00 -
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The purpose of mining missions was to allow miners to get LP. I'm not a miner myself, so I don't know how well this works, but is it not living up to that?
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Maxsim Goratiev
Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.01.30 19:48:00 -
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 Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
The purpose of mining missions was to allow miners to get LP. I'm not a miner myself, so I don't know how well this works, but is it not living up to that?
I have seen aot of those missions, lvl 3 and 4s, they involve going to an asteroid, giving it half a cycle and coming back and getting you reward of few thousand isk.
Saying they need improvment is like not saying anything. They need ALOT of improvements.
Few ideas:
They provide minerals normally not found in high-sec
They make you mine an aasteroid guarded by rogue drones, meaning you need to first kill rats, then mine some rly rair minerals (really an imaginary mineral that cannot be sold on the market) and then bringing it to the agent for some good pay (pay has to be good as mining in this case does not make any money, and the rogue drones don't drop much).
Notice that main point is mining, not strong rats: i.e. drones must be easy to kill for non-combat character, not like current lvl 4's, but easier.
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Isaac Starstriker
The Confederate Navy
Forever Unbound
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Posted - 2010.01.31 01:58:00 -
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Edited by: Isaac Starstriker on 31/01/2010 01:58:38
Agreed, Mining missions are worse than courier missions. (And that's saying something)
I highly support changes to make them better.
--Isaac
AMAAR VICTOR!
"You just can't fix stupid"
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JcH
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Posted - 2010.01.31 06:57:00 -
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Dagle
Minmatar
Knights Of The Void
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Posted - 2010.02.05 04:18:00 -
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They could put a belt worth of regular high sec ore into those missions. Most of the mining missions used to have a load of veld & scord asteroids similar to some of the ore in combat missions. At the worst all you're giving the miner is a semi private belt of low end ore to mine.
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Mike Molnar
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Posted - 2010.02.05 18:17:00 -
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Edited by: Mike Molnar on 05/02/2010 18:21:26
It's hard to believe CCP has found another way to make mining dissatisfying. I know the market is complex and putting rare ores in missions would mess with the prices, but what's wrong with putting larger-than-average rocks in mining missions? It doesn't seem a little weird to them that all the good mission belts are in combat missions? 
Anyway, I think a good idea would be something similar to the GE and AE bonus room in some mining missions, i.e. get a certain tag, get access to a private belt with a couple jaspet or gneiss rocks that require killing some battleships. Just a thought.
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Maxsim Goratiev
Gallente
Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.02.05 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Mike Molnar
Edited by: Mike Molnar on 05/02/2010 18:21:26
It's hard to believe CCP has found another way to make mining dissatisfying. I know the market is complex and putting rare ores in missions would mess with the prices, but what's wrong with putting larger-than-average rocks in mining missions? It doesn't seem a little weird to them that all the good mission belts are in combat missions?
Anyway, I think a good idea would be something similar to the GE and AE bonus room in some mining missions, i.e. get a certain tag, get access to a private belt with a couple jaspet or gneiss rocks that require killing some battleships. Just a thought.
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Vindix
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Posted - 2010.02.05 18:55:00 -
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Is their any reason the isk reward for mining "the alternate ore/gas" can't be tied to the median price for the sellable ore/gas?
The LP and standings gain would be the extra benefit and a reason to do missions rather than just mining.
Missions ore should be based on the sec status of the mission location; high-sec ore in high-sec locations, low-sec ore in low-sec locations. Keep the risk/reward for mining missions on par with actual mining.
Now to work on balancing combat missions the same way; easy low-bounty frigates in high-sec, more difficult higher-bounty 'rats in low-sec.
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Jonah Pod
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Posted - 2010.02.05 19:27:00 -
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I'd go for the "make it fun" part. Remove them only in case this doesn't work.
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Chilton Haynes
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Posted - 2010.02.06 19:01:00 -
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Mining Missions NEED a major overhaul.
1. Miscellaneous ore SHOULD be available "floating" in space with the Target Ore for the mission.
2. Regular rats should be in use instead of mission only enemy drones
3. LPs should be adjusted. I get over 8000+ LPs for mining gas in 35 minutes as opposed to 5000+ LPs for 1.5 Hours of Ore...guess which missions I cherry pick?
...YES, mining missions NEED help!!!
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Klyria
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.02.06 21:29:00 -
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Missions in general bore me, I can only imagine how much worse mining ones are.
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.02.08 01:03:00 -
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These missions generate more questions/support then anything else.
The help channels are full of people that can't find the sites, have mined the wrong ore, can't trigger the objective etc etc.
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