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Arsibalt d'Arcachon	Posted - 2010.02.01 20:46:00 - [1] I am stuck in a class 5 wormhole at the moment and I just can't find an exit out of there. It is riddled with cosmic signatures but after scanning around 20 of them buggers I only found non-wormholes. Where should I concentrate on scanning? Are wormholes typically found far away from planets and moons or does this not matter? (It wouldn't matter anyway since so far, all of them were near planets/moons)
Gavin DeVries	Posted - 2010.02.01 20:55:00 - [2] All cosmic signatures are found around planets. Typically they'll be within 5 AU of some planet. Every w-space system is supposed to have at least one wormhole leading out at all times. There was a bug (not sure if it's been quashed yet) where occasionally a system wouldn't have an exit hole for a day. All I can suggest is to start scanning. If I'm looking for wormholes (and nothing but wormholes) I typically drop one combat probe or deep space probe (assuming you can use them and the system is large enough to require it) at max range and scan once. This gives me a list of all signatures in the system and their designations. If I'm route scouting I'll usually write down the three-letter prefix to the designation. Once that's done I'll start scanning in earnest. I'll scan down one signature at a time until I know what it is. If it's not an unknown I'll make a note of that on my list and then ignore it. If it is an unknown I proceed to pinpoint it, warp to 100 km from the result, and do a SHOW INFO on it to see where it leads. I'll bookmark it and ignore it, but depending on where it leads and how many more signatures are left to identify I may or may not go through. My paper list is to save time in case I do go through and find out later that I have to backtrack; I can redo the intial scan and ignore every signature designation I've already identified from the list. Once I've pinpointed or ignored all the signatures, I do one more probe at max range just to see if I've missed anything. If you find that you don't actually have an exit, then wait until the next downtime and repeat. If you go through 2 complete downtimes without an exit, then you'll need to file a petition. ______________________________________________________ Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
speedybot	Posted - 2010.02.01 20:56:00 - [3] If you set your probes on 8 AU and park one on every planet, you'll catch every sig, including the wormholes. Most of them you can't by setting the probes on 4, but 8 should catch whatever you may have missed. However, note that it could be that the wormhole you're in has a static exit to a class 6. Those are pretty weak signals and can be difficult to find if you have very low skills for scanning.
XXSketchxx Gallente Remote Soviet Industries	Posted - 2010.02.01 20:59:00 - [4] Ladars/gravs generally have pretty high strength. I drop a 4 probe, 8AU, diamond spread, and work around the central planets. This will eliminate the really high strength ones on first try. Drop down to 4AU and work around individual planets to refine your search even more. After this you pretty much have to work each individual signature down to the 2AU-.5AU range depending on their strengths. Hang in there; process of elimination and good notes (don't rely on ignoring results feature, if you disconnect, it will reset) will get you through. I can usually work my way through 30 signatures to find the static hole in about an hour. _____________________________________________ -Sketch, Certified Pharmacist Need a Boost?
Arsibalt d'Arcachon	Posted - 2010.02.01 21:42:00 - [5] Thanks for the replies. They motivated me to try scanning for a WH and after some time I was actually able to find a WH. The thing is.. I can't get it to 100%. So far I could only get it to 80% using six drones. Seriously, I had the same problem the day I got into this system. I forgot to bookmark my entry-wh because I running away from a drake that tried to kill me. Even though it still showed on the starsystem map, I couldn't get it to 100%. Would training Astrometric Rangefinding to level 4 help me get 100%?
XXSketchxx Gallente Remote Soviet Industries	Posted - 2010.02.01 22:23:00 - [6] Originally by: Arsibalt d'Arcachon Thanks for the replies. They motivated me to try scanning for a WH and after some time I was actually able to find a WH. The thing is.. I can't get it to 100%. So far I could only get it to 80% using six drones. Seriously, I had the same problem the day I got into this system. I forgot to bookmark my entry-wh because I running away from a drake that tried to kill me. Even though it still showed on the starsystem map, I couldn't get it to 100%. Would training Astrometric Rangefinding to level 4 help me get 100%? The system only uses the best 4 probes. Some will claim using more will help; this is simply not true. Try this diamond formation: --------------[probe1]-------------- ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ [probe2]------Signature------[probe3] ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ --------------[probe4]-------------- Position the probes so that the tips of the arrows of each probe are touching the signature. Continue to bring closer and closer as you bring down to .25AU. Post your skills/gear/implants as well. Training rangefinding to 4 will definitely help you. The 6% implants and sisters probes are relatively cheap and good implants, so definitely worth investing in if you intend to keep traversing w-space. _____________________________________________ -Sketch, Certified Pharmacist Need a Boost?
Gavin DeVries	Posted - 2010.02.01 22:53:00 - [7] First, you don't need 6 probes. The game only uses 4 to locate a target. It's SUPPOSED to use only the four best probes if you have more than 4 probes out. Sometimes if you have more than 4 though, it causes problems. Turn off enough probes to bring it down to just 4 left. Use three of them to make an equilateral triangle. Place the fourth centered above it to form a pyramid. Now move this structure all at once by holding the shift key down, and place it so the signature dot is centered within the pyramid. That's the best formation for getting precise results. It's not the fastest for scanning, but it's good for hard to pinpoint signatures. ______________________________________________________ Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.02.02 04:05:00 - [8] What you have are a lot of sigs, and you have to get 100 percent on them first, and eventually you find the WH. It's tedious but that's the best way you will find the exit. Once it took me a week to get out of a class 6. As long as you got probes and keep your ship alive you are OK.
aetherguy881 Gallente	Posted - 2010.02.02 15:11:00 - [9] Originally by: XXSketchxx The system only uses the best 4 probes. Some will claim using more will help; this is simply not true. The extra probes can be used for organization and a greater chance of a better scan. However it is slower to use more than 4... ------------------- Always remember this about EVE: Life is cheap, or 15 bucks a month.
Fitz VonHeise Eye Bee Em Stellar Defense Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.02 20:14:00 - [10] I use to only use 4 probes... but I heard of this technique from others and it has worked well. I drop the 4 probes and arrange them as above but set for 8 au. Then I drop 4 more probes and set for 2 au. (You need to overlap the areas) After a scan I then hold down the shift key and move all probes around at the same time in the same configuration as they have been set. What this does is allow you to see not only the one sig you are trying to go for... but once you have completed finding out what type it is you can move on to another sig that your 8 au probes have located. By doing this you can more quickly scan for the ladars/gravs you don't want. Just right click on them and do "Ignore". Eventually you are going to hit sigs that will not turn yellow and you will have to change the four smaller 4 au probes to .5 or even .25 au to find out what type they are.

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