Originally by: Misanthra

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You have the advantage of setting up your assets in advance...incoming has the advantage of cloak if they fit it. Its what makes it a game for both sides. Sucks when camping, great when you are the prey.

Sensor boosts and targetting skills to get close to insta lock, decloak tricks like faster movers to bump decloak...got options.

Your prey got smarter, nothing really to fix.[/quo

Well it seems most of you can't read so again, there are no counters for the exploit. It's the same thing with this game all of the time where people find ways to take advantage and wrongfully use the mechanics. If these ships aren't meant to cloak and warp then they shouldn't. I understand that alot of you can't understand nor comprehend exactly what is happenening here.

Originally by: Torothanax

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Originally by: LordTitan

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Spoken like a true carebear lol. Which brings me back to my point. If it doesnt effect the carebears its ok. lol The fact is low sec pirates have it the hardest. We have to use scouts we get gate guns we are able to be targeted freely by any1 with reprocussions. What isnt that enough for you hahaha I suppose we shouldnt beable to use t2 weapons next right cause there isnt enough stacked against our success as it is. Some day sunshine you should try the pirate life before you give your speaches. You know the fact that you think pirates can tank guns indefinately shows me you either think all pirates use passive drakes or similar or you sadly have no idea what you are talking about. having gate guns pounding on us is the equivalent to having a bc helping you or slightly less lol. There is a reason you get a warning when you come into low sec moron if you enter that means you enter at your own risk lol such a typical carebear. READ THE WARNINGS!!! USE A SCOUT OR STAY TH "F" OUT and hide with concorde and stay outa crap you have shown to know have no knowledge about

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No one makes you pirate in low sec. Maybe you should GTFO if you can't handle it. And no, I'm not a carebear. Check the militia kill board
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Please dont make laugh! Do you double check what you write before you submit it? "No one makes you pirate in low sec." Not to bright my friend. And I believe you are in fact a carebear just from that comment. Also, we can handle it fine and you can check our killboard if you have doubts. I'm simply trying to state that there is a problem with the mechanics and I would like to see something done about it. I can also tell you've probably been ganked a few times and there is some soarness about it and this thread maybe your way of retalliation. Sorry for you really but the fact remains, the exploit must be fixed.

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Originally by: Illrean

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If you really think this is an exploit.. file a petition on everyone who gets away from you using this process. If the GMs agree with you, the player will catch the flak, if they disagree with you they will tell you so and you will have your answer. If you still disagree with them you can ask to have your petition elevated to a more senior GM.

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Originally by: T'Challa Wanakanda

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Originally by: Agetec Core

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I am sick and tired of pilots using cloaks to escape succsessfully in non covert-op ships. It's a trick more and more people are using to escape and it's already bad enough that us pirates living in low-sec have everything working against us. This needs to be fixed ASAP!!! Everytime I turn around there is something else in this game that just totally disgusts me!!

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You call yourself a pirate. You're complaining that opponents have found a strategy that allows them to escape from you.

Do you believe that low sec has become too safe? That in order to insure that piracy provides risk to people just traveling through low sec in a non-covops ship that you need help from CCP? And if everyone adapts and starts using co-vops ships then will you complain about them too?

If the mechanic was broken I'd say fix it. I don't think it's broken.


T'Challa, you are wrong my friend and obviously have no clue! It is not a strategy, it is an exploit. Strategy would include logistics support and scouts, not exploits. Please put on your glasses and try to find a clue. Low-sec more dangerous than 0.0? You have no idea what you are talking about so please stop with the jokes. It takes a a very competent roster of corp members to pirate successgully in low sec simply because there are so many ways for escape.


Have you considered dropping ammo cans about 13-14km from the gate or maybe anchoring some containers? Using fast ships to chase down the ship and decloak it (An interceptor can cover a lot of space in the time it takes a ship to align with a MWD running)?

If you really believe low sec has become too safe then you'll have a difficult argument. Most people I know feel low sec is in many ways more dangerous than 0.0.

Bottom line: HTFU

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Originally by: T'Challa Wanakanda

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Originally by: Agetec Core

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I am sick and tired of pilots using cloaks to escape succsessfully in non covert-op ships. It's a trick more and more people are using to escape and it's already bad enough that us pirates living in low-sec have everything working against us. This needs to be fixed ASAP!!! Everytime I turn around there is something else in this game that just totally disgusts me!!

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You call yourself a pirate. You're complaining that opponents have found a strategy that allows them to escape from you.

Do you believe that low sec has become too safe? That in order to insure that piracy provides risk to people just traveling through low sec in a non-covops ship that you need help from CCP? And if everyone adapts and starts using co-vops ships then will you complain about them too?

If the mechanic was broken I'd say fix it. I don't think it's broken.

Have you considered dropping ammo cans about 13-14km from the gate or maybe anchoring some containers? Using fast ships to chase down the ship and decloak it (An interceptor can cover a lot of space in the time it takes a ship to align with a MWD running)?

If you really believe low sec has become too safe then you'll have a difficult argument. Most people I know feel low sec is in many ways more dangerous than 0.0.

Bottom line: HTFU

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Originally by: Illrean

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Originally by: Agetec Core

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I have petitoned several times and each time I am told to express my concerns here. I believe that all pilots whom agree with this exploit are obviously carebears who use the exploit to evade camps. Pilots are constantly finding ways to use the game's mechanics wronfully therefore leading to nerfs. I will state again that if the ship is not meant to warp off cloaked then it shouldn't. Anyone supporting the exploit is also supporting a broken game, really? I play this game to pirate because that is the aspect of the game which interests me so should I be condemned for it? Low sec is a place where pirates reside and conduct their business daily and risks of entering low-sec space are clear. Low-sec is our house and if you can't afford to lose then stay out. Carebears have the cloaking industrials which I totally agree with because you need some kind of safe way to transport, fair enough. We also have an alt corp which handles all of our finances and hauling etc etc and on several different occasions we have been high sec ganked leading to losses in the billions, oh well we just deal with the loss and move on; We don't complain about it or cry because concord wasn't there to save us. Anyway back to the point, the pilots in my corp all have a specific role to counter escape tactics and we are quite successful with this however there is no counter for the sissy claok and warp trick. We don't use exploits or tricks, we use the tools provided by the game to acheive our goals, it's that simple. If you can't handle low sec then stay out.

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If you have petitioned it several times and the GMs have done nothing but suggest you come here.. then maybe.. just maybe CCP does not see it your way.

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