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Massive Dragon Gallente NoobFleet G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2010.02.09 06:27:00 - [31] Originally by: August Hayek Originally by: Massive Dragon Edited by: Massive Dragon on 08/02/2010 12:23:23 awwwwww majesta empire not liking the war are they??? thats so cute. You just dont get it. I cannot remember when we had a week or two without any empire wars. So, who cares about empire wars besides you? this was a mutual war which you started... yet you decided to retract it as fast as you could. so if you dont care... why you running like babbies from a war you started?
Derek Chu Caldari Rampant SR	Posted - 2010.02.09 08:27:00 - [32] Edited by: Derek Chu on 09/02/2010 08:30:06 Originally by: Mystic Turtle Originally by: Admiral Pelleon Why is Tri in empire? NC needed everyone to outnumber Tri, when the numbers were even NC never fought, so 10:1 odds seemed fair, ofc NC lost a titan and a region but the main thing is Morsus Mihi (Rawr) got back an R64,.. To get revenge Rawr and its beard (Majesta Empire) Wardecced Tri, Tri then make it mutual because NC fail, Majesta barely lasts a few days gets emo and a vote is called where 91% of its members dont want to get owned by Tri anymore,.. Now NC are whinging about wardecs,.. :S 1. TRI started to stupid wardec... Of course other members of the NC will wardec TRI for giggles (Majesta). The only reason why Majesta or any others would retract the wardec is so they don't pay the fee for all the multiple wardecs. Hence the war was retracted a week before they would get charge for the renewal :)TRI started it to show some sort of chest beating after being trampled on again. 2. The numbers were favoring the TRI nap train tbh... With TRI joining the NAP list train with the russian coalition, co2, init along with atlas and company. Overall TRI and Company had the largest NAP train in EVE history. And this goes out to all TRI and friends for whining like little girls :P German Giggles, Derek Chu
ChaeDoc II Gallente Capital Construction Research	Posted - 2010.02.09 08:35:00 - [33] Originally by: Seldarine Every time this fa**** posts I die a little inside. stop encouraging him.
Amayanna Amarr Lyonesse. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.09 09:25:00 - [34] Originally by: Massive Dragon Originally by: August Hayek Originally by: Massive Dragon Edited by: Massive Dragon on 08/02/2010 12:23:23 awwwwww majesta empire not liking the war are they??? thats so cute. You just dont get it. I cannot remember when we had a week or two without any empire wars. So, who cares about empire wars besides you? this was a mutual war which you started... yet you decided to retract it as fast as you could. so if you dont care... why you running like babbies from a war you started? I think this is pretty relevant.
Liang Nuren Caldari No Salvation War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.02.09 09:35:00 - [35] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 09/02/2010 09:35:07 Originally by: Derek Chu The only reason why Majesta or any others would retract the wardec is so they don't pay the fee for all the multiple wardecs. Just to clear this up, but the wardec was mutual. There was no ISK cost for maintaining. The only reason for Majesta to retract was so that they wouldn't be shot by Tri in Empire. Not taking sides or anything, but its flat out wrong to say Majesta was paying ISK for a mutual wardec. HTH. -Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere	Posted - 2010.02.09 09:35:00 - [36] Originally by: Derek Chu The only reason why Majesta or any others would retract the wardec is so they don't pay the fee for all the multiple wardecs. Probably a **** troll, but I know Majesta Empire aren't exactly knowledgeable when it comes to basic game mechanics, so, you do know that mutual wardecs are free right? And do not contribute to the costs of any other wardecs. Looking at the TRI killboard, looks like Majesta Took a few bad losses in empire, seems more likely that you retracted to make empire logistics/activites easier for your members. ---
Massive Dragon Gallente NoobFleet G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2010.02.09 10:14:00 - [37] Originally by: Derek Chu Edited by: Derek Chu on 09/02/2010 08:30:06 Originally by: Mystic Turtle Originally by: Admiral Pelleon Why is Tri in empire? NC needed everyone to outnumber Tri, when the numbers were even NC never fought, so 10:1 odds seemed fair, ofc NC lost a titan and a region but the main thing is Morsus Mihi (Rawr) got back an R64,.. To get revenge Rawr and its beard (Majesta Empire) Wardecced Tri, Tri then make it mutual because NC fail, Majesta barely lasts a few days gets emo and a vote is called where 91% of its members dont want to get owned by Tri anymore,.. Now NC are whinging about wardecs,.. :S 1. TRI started to stupid wardec... Of course other members of the NC will wardec TRI for giggles (Majesta). The only reason why Majesta or any others would retract the wardec is so they don't pay the fee for all the multiple wardecs. Hence the war was retracted a week before they would get charge for the renewal :)TRI started it to show some sort of chest beating after being trampled on again. 2. The numbers were favoring the TRI nap train tbh... With TRI joining the NAP list train with the russian coalition, co2, init along with atlas and company. Overall TRI and Company had the largest NAP train in EVE history. And this goes out to all TRI and friends for whining like little girls :P German Giggles, Derek Chu order of events: -tri withdraws from x-7 -mm declares war -me declares war -tri makes wars mutual -tri decs other nc alliance -tri kills a bunch of nc in empire -me retracts war read into this what you will.
Derek Chu Caldari Rampant SR	Posted - 2010.02.09 11:08:00 - [38] Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 09/02/2010 09:35:07 Originally by: Derek Chu The only reason why Majesta or any others would retract the wardec is so they don't pay the fee for all the multiple wardecs. Just to clear this up, but the wardec was mutual. There was no ISK cost for maintaining. The only reason for Majesta to retract was so that they wouldn't be shot by Tri in Empire. Not taking sides or anything, but its flat out wrong to say Majesta was paying ISK for a mutual wardec. HTH. -Liang Yes very true if it were mutual on the first day of the wardec. I believe TRI made it mutual on the 6th day or something... Well I guess TRI really felt that they were saving Majesta some iskies for the wardec :P TBH why dould TRI even make it mutual? Don't you want your enemies to bleed out more ISK? Or would you say it may be stupid for Majesta to wardec... but isn't it more stupid for TRI to accept and not having them pay? German Huggles, Derek Chu
Derek Chu Caldari Rampant SR	Posted - 2010.02.09 11:13:00 - [39] Originally by: Massive Dragon Originally by: Derek Chu Edited by: Derek Chu on 09/02/2010 08:30:06 Originally by: Mystic Turtle Originally by: Admiral Pelleon Why is Tri in empire? NC needed everyone to outnumber Tri, when the numbers were even NC never fought, so 10:1 odds seemed fair, ofc NC lost a titan and a region but the main thing is Morsus Mihi (Rawr) got back an R64,.. To get revenge Rawr and its beard (Majesta Empire) Wardecced Tri, Tri then make it mutual because NC fail, Majesta barely lasts a few days gets emo and a vote is called where 91% of its members dont want to get owned by Tri anymore,.. Now NC are whinging about wardecs,.. :S 1. TRI started to stupid wardec... Of course other members of the NC will wardec TRI for giggles (Majesta). The only reason why Majesta or any others would retract the wardec is so they don't pay the fee for all the multiple wardecs. Hence the war was retracted a week before they would get charge for the renewal :)TRI started it to show some sort of chest beating after being trampled on again. 2. The numbers were favoring the TRI nap train tbh... With TRI joining the NAP list train with the russian coalition, co2, init along with atlas and company. Overall TRI and Company had the largest NAP train in EVE history. And this goes out to all TRI and friends for whining like little girls :P German Giggles, Derek Chu order of events: -tri withdraws from x-7 -mm declares war -me declares war -tri makes wars mutual -tri decs other nc alliance -tri kills a bunch of nc in empire -me retracts war read into this what you will. Massive Dragon = Noob Intel :p First of all you are goodfellas... You might be a TRI member who is afraid to really show some more whining on CAOD :P At least with me I take both sides and really read the facts hehe. Regardless of TRI and Co. or NC I overall lost business in X-70 due to everyone leaving. I was making really good ISKIES being a war profiteer :P German Giggles, Derek Chu
Massive Dragon Gallente NoobFleet G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2010.02.09 11:25:00 - [40] Originally by: Derek Chu Massive Dragon = Noob Intel :p First of all you are goodfellas... You might be a TRI member who is afraid to really show some more whining on CAOD :P At least with me I take both sides and really read the facts hehe. Regardless of TRI and Co. or NC I overall lost business in X-70 due to everyone leaving. I was making really good ISKIES being a war profiteer :P German Giggles, Derek Chu you are really stupid. how many people do you know who post in limegreen? also you have no clue what the facts are as you have displayed time and time again and i have trouble believing your war profiteer story as i have never seen you post anti nc (in fact i have seen you lie for them in this thread and in several more) also incase you havnt noticed the vast majority of tri has their stuff bought from jita and jumped to wherever we are fighting and put up on personal contract. so i doubt you are making a) much money b) much money off tri.(admittedly though i have a very high standard for what i call a lot of money so you might be making enough money to get you your new forum spaceships seeing as thats clearly where you do the majority of your pvp) also again ladies and gentlemen i stress that this man is an obvious majesta empire associate/alt. i urge you all to hold his comments against his alliance.
Derek Chu Caldari Rampant SR	Posted - 2010.02.09 11:29:00 - [41] Edited by: Derek Chu on 09/02/2010 11:30:04 Originally by: Massive Dragon Originally by: Derek Chu Massive Dragon = Noob Intel :p First of all you are goodfellas... You might be a TRI member who is afraid to really show some more whining on CAOD :P At least with me I take both sides and really read the facts hehe. Regardless of TRI and Co. or NC I overall lost business in X-70 due to everyone leaving. I was making really good ISKIES being a war profiteer :P German Giggles, Derek Chu you are really stupid. how many people do you know who post in limegreen? also you have no clue what the facts are as you have displayed time and time again and i have trouble believing your war profiteer story as i have never seen you post anti nc (in fact i have seen you lie for them in this thread and in several more) also incase you havnt noticed the vast majority of tri has their stuff bought from jita and jumped to wherever we are fighting and put up on personal contract. so i doubt you are making a) much money b) much money off tri.(admittedly though i have a very high standard for what i call a lot of money so you might be making enough money to get you your new forum spaceships seeing as thats clearly where you do the majority of your pvp) also again ladies and gentlemen i stress that this man is an obvious majesta empire associate/alt. i urge you all to hold his comments against his alliance. I am OUTRAGED BY THESE ACCUSATIONS!!! You are by far more racist than most that I've encountered... Just because I'm German doesn't mean I belong in an all German Alliance (Majesta Empire)!!! BTW: War profiteering makes good ISKIES my noob friend :P I don't do any of the transporting, I just let my TRI minions risk their JF for me. Once they drop goods in system I buy them out then resell them for 2x or even 3x from what I paid for :P German Kisses, Derek Chu
Massive Dragon Gallente NoobFleet G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2010.02.09 11:36:00 - [42] Originally by: Derek Chu Edited by: Derek Chu on 09/02/2010 11:30:04 I am OUTRAGED BY THESE ACCUSATIONS!!! You are by far more racist than most that I've encountered... Just because I'm German doesn't mean I belong in an all German Alliance (Majesta Empire)!!! BTW: War profiteering makes good ISKIES my noob friend :P I don't do any of the transporting, I just let my TRI minions risk their JF for me. Once they drop goods in system I buy them out then resell them for 2x or even 3x from what I paid for :P German Kisses, Derek Chu hello reverini. what do you know... you are in majesta empire... and buddy... i thought you played both sides??? surely the nc (with more member, more jumpfrieghters, more carebears more hands buying things and the best part losing more ships more regularly) would be where the majority of your isk is made. btw war profiteers usualy have a long contract history. when dt is over im going to check yours and we will know who youve been making money off and if you have at all lol.
Derek Chu Caldari Rampant SR	Posted - 2010.02.09 11:42:00 - [43] Originally by: Massive Dragon Originally by: Derek Chu Edited by: Derek Chu on 09/02/2010 11:30:04 I am OUTRAGED BY THESE ACCUSATIONS!!! You are by far more racist than most that I've encountered... Just because I'm German doesn't mean I belong in an all German Alliance (Majesta Empire)!!! BTW: War profiteering makes good ISKIES my noob friend :P I don't do any of the transporting, I just let my TRI minions risk their JF for me. Once they drop goods in system I buy them out then resell them for 2x or even 3x from what I paid for :P German Kisses, Derek Chu hello reverini. what do you know... you are in majesta empire... and buddy... i thought you played both sides??? surely the nc (with more member, more jumpfrieghters, more carebears more hands buying things and the best part losing more ships more regularly) would be where the majority of your isk is made. btw war profiteers usualy have a long contract history. when dt is over im going to check yours and we will know who youve been making money off and if you have at all lol. Umm you sir are by far noob :P I buy and sell items from market not contracts! Also I buy and sell only from NPC stations. I know the NC will make me money but no use if I can't even dock in their stations!!! Which makes perfect sense for me to buy and sell in X-70 young one :P Berlin with love, Derek Chu
Massive Dragon Gallente NoobFleet G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2010.02.09 11:46:00 - [44] Originally by: Derek Chu Umm you sir are by far noob :P I buy and sell items from market not contracts! Also I buy and sell only from NPC stations. I know the NC will make me money but no use if I can't even dock in their stations!!! Which makes perfect sense for me to buy and sell in X-70 young one :P Berlin with love, Derek Chu i have you now. so you would be the only war profiteer in the world who doesnt know that contracts are usualy cheaper than market? so you can buy cheap and sell high. either your not very good or you are just a liar. either way if you want to disprove me you could do a very simple thing. take a screenshot of your wallet. gg.
Derek Chu Caldari Rampant SR	Posted - 2010.02.09 11:53:00 - [45] Originally by: Massive Dragon Originally by: Derek Chu Umm you sir are by far noob :P I buy and sell items from market not contracts! Also I buy and sell only from NPC stations. I know the NC will make me money but no use if I can't even dock in their stations!!! Which makes perfect sense for me to buy and sell in X-70 young one :P Berlin with love, Derek Chu i have you now. so you would be the only war profiteer in the world who doesnt know that contracts are usualy cheaper than market? so you can buy cheap and sell high. either your not very good or you are just a liar. either way if you want to disprove me you could do a very simple thing. take a screenshot of your wallet. gg. LOLS :) Yes contracts often have great deals... But for the most part it's all rigged ships, lose items and junk. I don't care who I sell to or buy from but it's stupid for anyone to sell large quantities of loose items during a 0.0 war! Especially selling them in an NPC station LOLS. If something doesn't sell I can always have someone move them out since it's NPC station not owned by another alliance. By the lack of knowledge you have about marketeering :p It's safe to assume that I clearly have about 1,000 times more ISKIES than what you will ever have in EVE. German Kisses, Derek Chu
Massive Dragon Gallente NoobFleet G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2010.02.09 12:06:00 - [46] Originally by: Derek Chu Originally by: Massive Dragon Originally by: Derek Chu Umm you sir are by far noob :P I buy and sell items from market not contracts! Also I buy and sell only from NPC stations. I know the NC will make me money but no use if I can't even dock in their stations!!! Which makes perfect sense for me to buy and sell in X-70 young one :P Berlin with love, Derek Chu i have you now. so you would be the only war profiteer in the world who doesnt know that contracts are usualy cheaper than market? so you can buy cheap and sell high. either your not very good or you are just a liar. either way if you want to disprove me you could do a very simple thing. take a screenshot of your wallet. gg. LOLS :) Yes contracts often have great deals... But for the most part it's all rigged ships, lose items and junk. I don't care who I sell to or buy from but it's stupid for anyone to sell large quantities of loose items during a 0.0 war! Especially selling them in an NPC station LOLS. If something doesn't sell I can always have someone move them out since it's NPC station not owned by another alliance. By the lack of knowledge you have about marketeering :p It's safe to assume that I clearly have about 1,000 times more ISKIES than what you will ever have in EVE. German Kisses, Derek Chu hahahaha so i take it you wont be taking a screenshot of your wallet. and i doubt you make anywhere near as much isk as i do. lets put it this way, it i found a free tech moon or something of about 1b a week that needed me to run a pos... i would give it away because it wouldnt be worth my time.
Derek Chu Caldari Rampant SR	Posted - 2010.02.09 12:15:00 - [47] Omg lol. You really don't know what you're talking about. Clearly you have **** poor market knowledge. With current Technetium market price you'll only sell on average around 2 billion iskies per month. Also with tech prices going up and down you are right that it may be a waste of time to run by yourself. At least give it to TRI so they could protect it for you. German Giggles, Derek Chu
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere	Posted - 2010.02.09 13:04:00 - [48] Originally by: Derek Chu Yes very true if it were mutual on the first day of the wardec. I believe TRI made it mutual on the 6th day or something... Well I guess TRI really felt that they were saving Majesta some iskies for the wardec :P TBH why dould TRI even make it mutual? Don't you want your enemies to bleed out more ISK? Or would you say it may be stupid for Majesta to wardec... but isn't it more stupid for TRI to accept and not having them pay? German Huggles, Derek Chu I think Triumvirate would rather have a wardec with you, than be safe in the knowledge that they are costing you something as petty as 200mil a week or whatever you would have had to pay if the wardec wasn't mutual. Looking at their killboard, they were obviously doing much more than 200mil a week to your members. It also means you have to retract the war, which can be used as propaganda. I don't know why you're even trying to spin this one. You retracted the war because it was the strategic and logical decision. Triumvirate were clearly doing more damage to you than you were to them during this war. Theres absolutely nothing wrong with that, it's the tactically sound decision. Trying to pass it off as isk being the reason, while the war was mutual just makes your alliance look absolutely stupid. Even if you were footing the bill, not being able to afford 200mil sounds absolutely pathetic for a space-holding alliance Majesta's size. ---
Sator deHarak Caldari 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.02.09 15:23:00 - [49] Dear minidad, stop trolling. The reason for the wardecs, ironically is that the HC was worried about the inevitable security status hit that would occur from clearing Evoke and Tri's POS in empire, regardless of their decision to defend them. Worried that NC pilots wouldn't be able to rat enough to fix their sec, the rare option of deccing was used. Suffice it to say, a few good fights were had out of it and we intend to leave the dec as it is so long as it is in our best interest, and cease it when it ceases to be.
Kesper North Caldari Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.02.09 17:35:00 - [50] Hi. I'm the guy who retracted the decs. War was declared in order to prevent massive sec status loss when attacking towers in Black Rise. Since the NC decided to scale back its operations there in favor of taking on xDeath and White Noise in Venal, there was little point in continuing the decs. Yes, the fact that the complaints of those alliance carebears who are too lazy to make hisec freighter alts made the little veins in my forehead start to throb was a contributing factor as well. Hope this helps clear up any confusion! -- Killed me? Read about it in my blog! Northern Lights: Solo PVP in EVE Online
Massive Dragon Gallente NoobFleet G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2010.02.09 18:09:00 - [51] Originally by: Kesper North Hi. I'm the guy who retracted the decs. War was declared in order to prevent massive sec status loss when attacking towers in Black Rise. Since the NC decided to scale back its operations there in favor of taking on xDeath and White Noise in Venal, there was little point in continuing the decs. Yes, the fact that the complaints of those alliance carebears who are too lazy to make hisec freighter alts made the little veins in my forehead start to throb was a contributing factor as well. Hope this helps clear up any confusion! you have no idea how long i have been waiting for you to comment here... you see in the wildley exaggerated (as is now apparent) tri death thread, several of your members and some from various other nc alliances talked about how the wardec was to "**** tri in empire", and how we would not be "left in peace as tri is so worthless". could i get you to comment on this? and if you have any opinions on your own alliances performance during this wardec?
August Hayek Gallente Krupp-Stahl Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.02.09 21:13:00 - [52] Quote: Child Head Injury and Laceration Doctors Declares War Against Majesta Empire From: CONCORD Sent: 2010.02.09 20:49 Child Head Injury and Laceration Doctors has declared war on Majesta Empire. Within 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. Hey, didnt took long. We can enjoy 30 hours of no wardec in empire. Pure win! Who cares in empire wardecs anyways?
Kesper North Caldari Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.02.11 08:45:00 - [53] Originally by: Massive Dragon you have no idea how long i have been waiting for you to comment here... you see in the wildley exaggerated (as is now apparent) tri death thread, several of your members and some from various other nc alliances talked about how the wardec was to "**** tri in empire", and how we would not be "left in peace as tri is so worthless". could i get you to comment on this? and if you have any opinions on your own alliances performance during this wardec? Sure. High morale leads to boastful smacktalk and people acting out in forums. That doesn't mean it reflects the opinions, motives or plans of Majesta or the NC as a whole. The sort of smug self-congratulatory chest-beating you are referring to is unfortunate and kind of childish, but :welp:. (I indulge in plenty of it, I just tend to keep it to our own forums.) I think our performance in the dec is sort of a nonissue, since its sole purpose was to go after Black Rise towers, and we ended up not doing that as we refocused our efforts on Venal. There were no "hey let's stage an op to go hit TRI in jita 4-4" gangs up, there were no attempts to block TRI from moving assets out of Pure Blind or Lonetrek lowsec, so I can't very well rate our performance on ops that, well, never ended up happening. I've heard that a lot of Majesta carebears got ganked, which is unfortunate, but that seems to happen in any wardec, and is not really relevant to our military operations. See my previous statement about people who are too lazy to make empire alts. -- Killed me? Read about it in my blog! Northern Lights: Solo PVP in EVE Online
Dr Ngo Amarr Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.02.11 09:02:00 - [54] Originally by: Massive Dragon Originally by: Kesper North Hi. I'm the guy who retracted the decs. War was declared in order to prevent massive sec status loss when attacking towers in Black Rise. Since the NC decided to scale back its operations there in favor of taking on xDeath and White Noise in Venal, there was little point in continuing the decs. Yes, the fact that the complaints of those alliance carebears who are too lazy to make hisec freighter alts made the little veins in my forehead start to throb was a contributing factor as well. Hope this helps clear up any confusion! you have no idea how long i have been waiting for you to comment here... you see in the wildley exaggerated (as is now apparent) tri death thread, several of your members and some from various other nc alliances talked about how the wardec was to "** tri in empire", and how we would not be "left in peace as tri is so worthless". could i get you to comment on this? and if you have any opinions on your own alliances performance during this wardec? WI and ME are full of horrible poasters, but Kesper is a p cool guy tbh I'm more interested in how this became a ** waving thread for you and derek
Massive Dragon Gallente NoobFleet G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2010.02.11 11:12:00 - [55] Edited by: Massive Dragon on 11/02/2010 11:16:14 Originally by: Kesper North Originally by: Massive Dragon you have no idea how long i have been waiting for you to comment here... you see in the wildley exaggerated (as is now apparent) tri death thread, several of your members and some from various other nc alliances talked about how the wardec was to "**** tri in empire", and how we would not be "left in peace as tri is so worthless". could i get you to comment on this? and if you have any opinions on your own alliances performance during this wardec? Sure. High morale leads to boastful smacktalk and people acting out in forums. That doesn't mean it reflects the opinions, motives or plans of Majesta or the NC as a whole. The sort of smug self-congratulatory chest-beating you are referring to is unfortunate and kind of childish, but :welp:. (I indulge in plenty of it, I just tend to keep it to our own forums.) I think our performance in the dec is sort of a nonissue, since its sole purpose was to go after Black Rise towers, and we ended up not doing that as we refocused our efforts on Venal. There were no "hey let's stage an op to go hit TRI in jita 4-4" gangs up, there were no attempts to block TRI from moving assets out of Pure Blind or Lonetrek lowsec, so I can't very well rate our performance on ops that, well, never ended up happening. I've heard that a lot of Majesta carebears got ganked, which is unfortunate, but that seems to happen in any wardec, and is not really relevant to our military operations. See my previous statement about people who are too lazy to make empire alts. quite a well considered post. but as a forum troll and little more, i need to ask if you would say its a fair assesment that your position is that majesta empire is a weaker alliance than tri (at least from a pvpers persepective.) and sorry to have to ask that as tert thinks your a cool guy and i trust with my voltron! edit: and also i disagree, i think that smacktalk/posting on these forums should and does represent the alliance/coalition the poster comes from. as such someone like derek chu/riverini should beware that when he comes here trying to make bad troels he makes the nc look like a naive, misinformed and bitter group. (which is probably accurate)
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.11 14:01:00 - [56] Massive Dragon V's Derek Chu ~the dullest show on earth~ ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
Xiaodown Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.11 15:05:00 - [57] Originally by: Derek Chu EVERYTHING I'VE EVER POSTED German Giggles, Derek Chu Jesus Tapdancing Christ, Shut Up. --
Kesper North Caldari Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.02.11 19:48:00 - [58] Originally by: Massive Dragon quite a well considered post. but as a forum troll and little more, i need to ask if you would say its a fair assesment that your position is that majesta empire is a weaker alliance than tri (at least from a pvpers persepective.) We can match TRI on a good day. We can't do it consistently. I would identify the following as ways in which we are weaker than TRI: * Bringing enough logistics (something we beat people over the head with every day. BRING MORE LOGISTICS, WE'RE NOT LEAVING TILL WE HAVE MORE LOGISTICS etc.) * Bringing proper shiptypes (no battleships to a sniper HAC gang) * Individual member skill at understanding and following orders * Forming up in less than, like, three hours We usually fail at at least one of those in the process of an engagement. When we manage to tick the first three boxes, we can and have fought decisive victories. I consider it a major goal of Majesta to start ticking all four boxes consistently, every time. What we can do better than TRI is wage grinding wars of attrition, something that the NC as a whole excels at. TRI also gets overconfident around us sometimes, which means our occasional sudden displays of competence tend to take them by suprise. Overall it's worth noting that Majesta has historically been a 'carebear' alliance with just enough PVPers to defend itself, and that TRI has always been an 'elite PVP' alliance that does little else. Expecting performance parity is therefore unrealistic. However, alliance leadership changed back in December, and is now notably PVP-oriented, so I would expect to see ongoing improvements in both activity level and performance as time goes on. We're already far, far ahead of where we were six months ago, when we sat on our thumbs in Vale and didn't even go on NC ops. I am excited to see where we go and how far we can develop in the next six months. -- Killed me? Read about it in my blog! Northern Lights: Solo PVP in EVE Online
Arthello Gallente Pilots Of Honour Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.02.11 23:32:00 - [59] > We can match TRI on a good day. We can't do it consistently. I'm assuming you're talking about mining here? Sure Tri is crap at mining.. if you're talking about actual PvP then someone needs to give you a box of Chill DownTM. Tri would kick your behinds even if their main FC had a flu, was at the WC during the engagement and had one of your spies calling targets.
Dr Ngo Amarr Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.02.11 23:55:00 - [60] Originally by: Arthello > We can match TRI on a good day. We can't do it consistently. I'm assuming you're talking about mining here? Sure Tri is crap at mining.. if you're talking about actual PvP then someone needs to give you a box of Chill DownTM. Tri would kick your behinds even if their main FC had a flu, was at the WC during the engagement and had one of your spies calling targets. To be fair ME would whomp the hell out of TRI at mining. It probably relates to that whole "grinding war of attrition" thing Kesper was talking about a few posts up. The whole argument is pretty irrelevant though as I doubt either alliance would agree to a 1v1 in pvp or mining.

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