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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.06.26 22:57:00 -
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Captain PewPew wrote:To get to it, Your presence in EVE is gameplay relevant. You're existence in a system affects flow and control of gameplay.
Being at attendance of your computer is you playing the game. AFK cloaking is a process of botting by allowing your computer to alter gameplay without your actual presence.
Discuss, and I'm mad, no I'm not quitting, I wish I had stuff so give me yours first.
In the what now? -RubyPorto
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.06.26 23:16:00 -
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Ditra Vorthran wrote:I love it how miners get lambasted for playing the game by afk mining, but oh my god, how dare we touch the sacred cow of afk cloaking...
Engaging the hypocrisy drive! Full burn!
AFK Cloaking is the counter to Local as an Intel channel.
AFK Mining is the counter to...
... Bueller?
... Bueller? -RubyPorto
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.06.26 23:23:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Ditra Vorthran wrote:I love it how miners get lambasted for playing the game by afk mining, but oh my god, how dare we touch the sacred cow of afk cloaking...
Engaging the hypocrisy drive! Full burn! AFK Cloaking is the counter to Local as an Intel channel. AFK Mining is the counter to... ... Bueller? ... Bueller? Even then, afk mining isn't so much a problem except when they whine about getting ganked. And then propose stupid ideas to counter ganks.
Wait, AFK miners do anything other than whining about getting ganked and proposing ridiculous ideas to prevent future ebil violence in HS? -RubyPorto
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.06.26 23:24:00 -
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Charles Baker wrote:Syllviaa wrote:
How can an afk cloaker affect the environment if he's afk?
Because for all their chest beating and insults slung at high-seccers null-sec players are the biggest carebears ever, won't rat without an empty system, won't mine without 100 friends on batphone, won't enter grid without numerical superiority and capital backup, lets face facts null-sec is full of pussies. /Flame
So, what you're saying is, you've never been. -RubyPorto
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Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.26 23:31:00 -
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Charles Baker wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Charles Baker wrote:Syllviaa wrote:
How can an afk cloaker affect the environment if he's afk?
Because for all their chest beating and insults slung at high-seccers null-sec players are the biggest carebears ever, won't rat without an empty system, won't mine without 100 friends on batphone, won't enter grid without numerical superiority and capital backup, lets face facts null-sec is full of pussies. /Flame So, what you're saying is, you've never been. Been there, done that couln't stand 3-4 hour PoS bashes left after a month. Also stop alt-poasting
I would, but I can't.
Sounds like you were in a terrible alliance. -RubyPorto
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.06.26 23:31:00 -
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Sekket wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Ditra Vorthran wrote:I love it how miners get lambasted for playing the game by afk mining, but oh my god, how dare we touch the sacred cow of afk cloaking...
Engaging the hypocrisy drive! Full burn! AFK Cloaking is the counter to Local as an Intel channel. AFK Mining is the counter to... ... Bueller? ... Bueller? Boredom.
I said Counter, not cause. -RubyPorto
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.06.26 23:36:00 -
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Sekket wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Sekket wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Ditra Vorthran wrote:I love it how miners get lambasted for playing the game by afk mining, but oh my god, how dare we touch the sacred cow of afk cloaking...
Engaging the hypocrisy drive! Full burn! AFK Cloaking is the counter to Local as an Intel channel. AFK Mining is the counter to... ... Bueller? ... Bueller? Boredom. I said Counter, not cause. It is the counter. Watching rocks evaporate is boring. They go afk to do something more stimulating. On the rare occasions I mine I bring a book.
Sounds like the Counter to boredom is "not mining" -RubyPorto
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.06.28 09:03:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:This whole topic is debatable Turning up in a cloaky ship in a enemy system and creating havoc and messing up any pve or industrial ops is a valid tactic , however. Waking up in the morning moving a cloaky. Ship into a enemy system and then go to work or school for the rest of the day is in my opinion pretty lame and depends how you look at it even be regarded as a form of botting or even a exploit
I always been in favour for introducing a new gamemechanic that will prevent such a thing Preferably something skilledbbased that will not actually decloak. But will reveal a sphere where the cloaky ship is inbetter your skill and more time you invest the smaller the detectionsphere will be and will be up to the defenders to figure out a way to dispose of him , a cloaker who is active will be moving around and be almost impossible to detect but a real afk cloaker will eventually be detected and will most likely find himself in a new clone when he comes back home a new kind of probes could do the trick
Since AFK Cloaking is the counter to Local as a perfect Intel tool,
Sure, so long as we get a skill that counters Local as well as your skill counters Cloaking. -RubyPorto
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.06.28 09:39:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:
Since AFK Cloaking is the counter to Local as a perfect Intel tool,
Sure, so long as we get a skill that counters Local as well as your skill counters Cloaking.
indeed it is IF you are actual check your afk cloaker on regular intervals If you are at work or school all day it serves no purpose for you or your corporation only that one day they will do the same to you and you will whine qbout it
1) If it serves no purpose, then it can do no harm, so why are you complaining about it?
2) If being in local means that you are necessarily active, then local is once again a perfect intel tool, telling you who is Active in system. With AFK cloaking, you lose the "active" intel, so Local is less useful. -RubyPorto
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.06.28 23:14:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:Bane Nucleus wrote:Cloaking is already penalized because you can't do anything while cloaked. Now people are suggesting to stack more penalties on top of that.
Limited time on cloaking devices? You have to be on bath salts or something.
Here is my suggestion. Everytime you dock up in station, you get a limited amounted of time to stay docked. After a certain while it starts to charge you isk for taking up a docking port. If you don't pay, it spits you out into space.....Yea, that is about as stupid as your cloaking ideas, you damn babies.
if he is in system with you, move to the next system. If he follows you, he isn't afk. If he doesn't, he is afk and can't hurt you. Jesus H. Christ I am smart. There's just no reasoning with the baby nullbears. I honestly don't know why they even attempt to live in nullsec if they're this scared and risk-averse.
It might be our fault. We do keep telling them to go to Null when they whinge about Suicide Ganks.
Just wait till one gets AWOXed. -RubyPorto
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