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Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente
Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2010.02.06 20:50:00 -
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On the Intaki Liberation Front:
The Eleutherian Guard recognizes that the Intaki Liberation Front has maintained a presence in the Intaki system for some years, predating the outbreak of war between the Caldari State and Gallente Federation. We do not agree with the aims of the secession movement but we recognize that said movement has never been a single voice, that the Intaki Liberation Front has taken steps to distance themselves from extremist factions and those who would jeopardize their avowed neutrality and cordial relations with both factions down the road. Furthermore, ILF have long been an instrument for good, conducting regular and effective antipiracy action in the Intaki system with heretofore better results than Federation-aligned establishments have.
In short, we recognize the Intaki Liberation Front as an important contributor to the safety and security of Intaki and the immediate area surrounding. The accusations of Moira. and Julianus Soter against them are therefore extremely troubling. EL-G recognizes Luminaire General Julianus Soter as an indispensable asset to the Federal Defence Union and the Gallente Federation. Regardless, we are not wholly satisfied with the strength of his allegations or his convictions regarding the ILF. Alas, as an occupied territory, residents in Intaki are not currently afforded the entitlement of the Federation court of law the case deserves. And to come to a decision ourselves, we require data.
General Soter must produce the names of the ILF pilots he alleges to have leaked information to the Caldari Militia, a thing he has not yet done either publicly, to us or to the ILF. EL-G will then offer to oversee, as a third party, an internal inquiry of the ILF regarding the persons so alleged, which if our estimation of them is accurate, they will do. Further action will be decided on pending the results of that inquiry. ILF is to remain in positive standings with the Eleutherian Guard unless future developments should prevail upon us to decide otherwise.
We believe that fighting the ILF will worsen the instability that threatens Intaki, especially the politics of the secessionist faction where tensions have been strained to the breaking point, contributing to protests and violence planetside following the Caldari capture of the system. Driven against the wall by an organized campaign, ILF is likely, against their professed better judgement, to fall back on the offered hand of ôthe enemy of our enemyö, and sympathetic reactions among planetside civilians are likely to notice. We believe this may be detrimental to the professed goal of General Soter to put Intaki back in Federation hands.
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Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente
Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2010.02.06 20:51:00 -
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Edited by: Seriphyn Inhonores on 06/02/2010 20:51:43
On the Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive:
The Eleutherian Guard notes that as of lately, I-RED has become increasingly invested in political affairs within Gallente and Caldari space, especially the Intaki System. They have recently pledged fighting ships to aid the ILF against Moira. and any other capsuleer corporations yet to involve themselves. This appears to be only the latest action in what seems to be a power play to strengthen the foothold of Caldari State in the Intaki system.
Consider:
- I-RED , as of just over a month ago, maintains an active splinter corporation in the State Protectorate, the Ishukone-Raata Sertelensah Kenzertis (I-RSK).
- I-RED, very shortly after, purchased 33% of Intaki Militia, a secessionist organization that actively fights in the State Protectorate and characterized publicly by the view that collaborating with the Caldari will advance that goal. (IGS post located here)
- I-RED has issued strong statements asserting the territorial rights of Ishukone and the State to the Intaki system, a condition that was effected by conquest: we, nor the Gallente Federation recognize the claim as rightful in any sense.
- I-REDÆs public declaration of support for the ILF, a declaration unasked for, has effectively served to convince the active members of the Villore Accords of ILFÆs guilt in the absence of other evidence being made public, thereby potentially putting ILF at greater risk than before.
All of these are a matter of public record, mostly publicized by I-RED itself.
To the present time, EL-G had officially regarded I-RED in the same status as the Intaki Liberation front, a ôcivilianö corporation, effectively neutral. We no longer accept I-REDÆs claims to neutrality and their status as a civilian establishment is severely in jeopardy.á It will remain in jeopardy as long as I-RED continues to meddle in local politics, seeking to strengthen the foothold of the Caldari in Intaki and Placid by them and exploit the secessionist movement for their gain.
Currently, EL-G is considering their capabilities and their resources, and at this time will take no direct action. However, the Eleutherian Guard will not raise a protest should other corporations, namely signatories of the Villore Accords, seek reciprocation against I-RED under the procedures prescribed by the Yulai Convention.
EL-G does not offer any statements directly concerning Ishukone Corporation or other affiliates at this time, only this corporation of private contractors operating under their name.
Eleutherian Guard Public Relations
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Ingrid Tolffsor
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Posted - 2010.02.07 00:40:00 -
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Edited by: Ingrid Tolffsor on 07/02/2010 00:40:41
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Jon Engel
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2010.02.07 00:47:00 -
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I am not sure what this is all about. Speaking personally, Gallente Militia are growing increasingly hostile to us. Whether it's constant yammering on this stupid channel or in space or in local or wherever.
It almost seems like the sons of *****es in the Gallente Militia want us 100% aligned to the god damned Caldari State. This is not personally acceptable.
Saxon, may beat the drums of peace and diplomacy. A damning quality of our people, in certain circumstance. I and many others, do not.
Where was the Gallente militia when Saxon offered an open hand of peace and good will? Nowhere, Eleutherian Guard being the only exception.
God damned this Federation and God damned this war. A war of coward who send immortal pilots to fight it for them while they levy taxes on ship and module purchases from both sides.
Is there not any Gallente left who hold the virtues of Liberty and the Sovereign Individual? Is the ideals of Freedom lost in the sounds of war drums?
I for one, can not be convinced otherwise.
The ILF is the last collective of Free Intaki. It is not, however, the end of Free Intaki, and a United Placid and Syndicate. Free of Gallente Imperialism, Hedonism, and war.
Jin Mei, Mannar, take heed. Moira's and ILF's war however it goes, will never, ever be the end of this. |
Lief Siddhe
Siddhean Inc.
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2010.02.07 00:52:00 -
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If only more Federal corporations acted as mature as the Eleutherian Guard.
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John Revenent
Caldari
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2010.02.07 02:02:00 -
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- I-RED has issued strong statements asserting the Development Rights of Ishukone to the Intaki system, a condition that was effected by conquest: we, nor the Gallente Federation recognize the claim as rightful in any sense.
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Vikarion
Caldari
Chorus of Nephilim
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Posted - 2010.02.07 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: Seriphyn Inhonores
I-RED has issued strong statements asserting the territorial rights of Ishukone and the State to the Intaki system, a condition that was effected by conquest: we, nor the Gallente Federation recognize the claim as rightful in any sense.
The Gallente Federation declared war on the Caldari State, and included the Intaki system in the list of systems "under the gun" in the war. If the Gallente felt that the Intaki system was particularly valuable, they could have exempted it, as they did other low security systems. Under the terms they agreed to, Intaki is a valid system for occupation. Therefore, the Federation has, by extension, recognized the Caldari occupation as rightful.
Second, I recall Federation capsuleers, during the invasion of Black Rise, being very clear as to the fact that they intended for the Federation to use those systems as they desired.
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Faraelle Brightman
Gallente
Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2010.02.07 03:27:00 -
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Edited by: Faraelle Brightman on 07/02/2010 03:32:41
Edited by: Faraelle Brightman on 07/02/2010 03:31:36
1: The Empires didn't set those boundaries. CONCORD did, when they drafted the Militia act - "All low security systems and those constituting a contiguous border with the opposing nation and those systems connected thence.". And CONCORD is not in the habit of making exceptions, alas. Perhaps another reason, if our ancestors had the benefit of hindsight, to regret the decision to relinquish that degree of protection so many years ago, to say nothing of the apparent inability to get it changed. Or more recently, the objections of those trying to operate in that space who insisted that low-sec was more profitable for them.
2: To my knowledge, Eleutherian Guard has never asserted the right of the Gallente to hold native Caldari systems, and I think privately among us, we oppose the idea, or at least see little point.
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"Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies."
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Juan Rayo
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.02.07 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lief Siddhe
If only more Federal corporations acted as mature as the Eleutherian Guard.
What Seriphyn Inhonores was put so well is exactly what the Villore Accords corps have agreed upon, and announced in this same channel.
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Jianni Sotaku
Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2010.02.07 05:56:00 -
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EL-G recognizes Luminaire General Julianus Soter as an indispensable asset to the Federal Defence Union and the Gallente Federation.
It's true. I do lub Moira when it comes to matters of militia security. However - these actions seem to be taking their pilots away from what should be considered primary strategic objectives to the FDUs campaign.
The abolishment of Protectorate occupation for one.
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Dex Nederland
Caldari
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2010.02.07 06:24:00 -
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Originally by: Faraelle Brightman
1: The Empires didn't set those boundaries. CONCORD did, when they drafted the Militia act - "All low security systems and those constituting a contiguous border with the opposing nation and those systems connected thence.". And CONCORD is not in the habit of making exceptions, alas.
1a. CONCORD saw fit to exclude the Alselbosier constellation (neighboring the Viriette constellation). Alselbosier contains ten State stations. It is all low sec. These are not included under the militia act.
1b. CONCORD may have drawn the lines, but to ignore the influence of the empires in drawing up the boundaries is naive. The State and the patriot corporations chose to reveal the exist of their Black Rise investments instead of turning The Citadel back into a warzone.
What did the Federation gain by agreeing to have Viriette and Fislipesnes covered by the Militia Act, but not Alselbosier and Ganoure?
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Faraelle Brightman
Gallente
Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2010.02.07 07:17:00 -
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*blinks at the map*
...Tat-ti! How many times have I flew by Alperaute and not even noticed that?
*glances somewhere outside the video frame*. "Oi! Ginger! Come here a moment, will y-" *camera off*.
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Vincent Death
Hyasyoda External Security Trade and Development
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Posted - 2010.02.07 09:23:00 -
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So are you going to do anything to stop the pirating of neutrals, or just threaten the only corporation actually offering to help?
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Faraelle Brightman
Gallente
Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2010.02.07 16:48:00 -
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Mr. Vincent, if you were a member of an organization, which you had sworn oaths of loyalty to, which is full of largely autonomous members of considerable power, and a high ranking member of that association engages in an activity that, while not strictly voiding their oaths, is likely wrongheaded and detrimental, and the most obvious way (in a combat pilot's estimation) of stopping it would violate those oaths of loyalty, how do you stop it?
That is a rhetorical question to which the laconic answer is "Not quickly and not easily". Just don't assume too quickly that we are doing nothing.
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Vincent Death
Hyasyoda External Security Trade and Development
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Posted - 2010.02.07 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Faraelle Brightman
Mr. Vincent, if you were a member of an organization, which you had sworn oaths of loyalty to, which is full of largely autonomous members of considerable power, and a high ranking member of that association engages in an activity that, while not strictly voiding their oaths, is likely wrongheaded and detrimental, and the most obvious way (in a combat pilot's estimation) of stopping it would violate those oaths of loyalty, how do you stop it?
Never compromise. Either my associate is right in his actions and I support him or he is wrong and I act against him.
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Ammon Dei
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.02.07 18:40:00 -
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HAIL,
Let me first state that we hold no ill will toward those that still reside with in and around the Intaki system. And that the QCATS are and always have been fighting for the greater good of the Federation. We will defend ourselves by any means necessary. And will defend those that do not have the power or means to do so themselves. We are proud members of the Federation Militia. I feel honored stand with the members of QCATS and our allies. With this said, our stance is as follows.
We will Not allow outside influences to affect the will of the Intaki people. We are in a fight to reclaim our sovereignty in several systems throughout the area. And as such we will defend our members, our allies, and our people. It is of our opinion that these outside influences have for too long affected the politics with in the region.
We do not endorse or even recognize the separatist movement from with in The Intaki People. We feel that there are a few outspoken vocal ring leaders that claim to speak for the people. When in fact they are in collusion with those outside influences that for far to long have held sway in the region.
We have openly condemned the actions of Moira. Corporation [AISA], for their CONCORD sanctioned warfare on the Intaki Liberation Front. Due to circumstantial evidence that was presented at the time. We wished for no part of this action against the ILF at that time. Following this action further outside influences are seeking to plunge an already shaky situation into further acts of bloodshed. We will not allow this to happen. As such, QCATS and our allies will be relocating some of our assets to this region in order to once and for all bring stability.
We will defend our members, our allies and our federation against all enemies, both foreign and domestic.
Luminaire General Ammon Dei
Quantum Cats Syndicate - DIR
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Vincent Death
Hyasyoda External Security Trade and Development
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Posted - 2010.02.07 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Ammon Dei
We will defend our members, our allies and our federation against all enemies, both foreign and domestic.
No-one in the Federal Militia seems able to state what their position is on this issue. Are you going to stop Moira from pirating the ILF? Or are you going to simply prevent anyone outside of the Militias assisting them?
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Jonny Damordred
Moira.
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Posted - 2010.02.07 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Vincent Death
Are you going to stop Moira from pirating the ILF?
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Jonny D.
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Vincent Death
Hyasyoda External Security Trade and Development
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Posted - 2010.02.07 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: Vincent Death on 07/02/2010 20:17:22
Originally by: Jonny Damordred
Originally by: Vincent Death
Are you going to stop Moira from pirating the ILF?
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Jonny D.
Pirate: a person who robs or commits illegal violence.
Heres a few more words you may wish to seek the meanings of...
Proof. Evidence. Honesty. Transparency.
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Jonny Damordred
Moira.
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Posted - 2010.02.07 22:26:00 -
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Edited by: Jonny Damordred on 07/02/2010 22:32:36
Originally by: Vincent Death
Pirate: a person who robs or commits illegal violence.
Illegal violence, according to CONCORD. You mean like the sneak-attack on Luminaire by the Caldari State?
If flipping off CONCORD is all it takes, guess I'm a pirate. Is there a secret pirate handshake I need to learn or something?
Jonny D.
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Seraphim Risen
Minmatar
Moira.
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Posted - 2010.02.09 13:11:00 -
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I see you treat political enemies with more appreciation and respect than you do to those who have tried to be your friends, Seriphyn.
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