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Siygo
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Posted - 2004.11.26 03:21:00 -
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be careful the high level dungeon's are strong you have no chance to kill them all by your self, so you must have friends help
but when you warp into a dungeon to help your friends the spot you warp into is a point instead of a round about area so who ever warps in last bumps the outher 5 guys 200 ~ 300k away and pop goes the guy left behind
you can repeat this every time warp in and out you end up at that one spot no matter what, you can ask to be 30k away you can ask for the 60k away not happening
you will be in the one spot and who ever warps in with you will bump you away
only way is the first person try quickly to move out of that spawn spot but if your firends dont get there quick you waont last the 30 seconds
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Siygo
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Posted - 2004.11.26 03:21:00 -
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be careful the high level dungeon's are strong you have no chance to kill them all by your self, so you must have friends help
but when you warp into a dungeon to help your friends the spot you warp into is a point instead of a round about area so who ever warps in last bumps the outher 5 guys 200 ~ 300k away and pop goes the guy left behind
you can repeat this every time warp in and out you end up at that one spot no matter what, you can ask to be 30k away you can ask for the 60k away not happening
you will be in the one spot and who ever warps in with you will bump you away
only way is the first person try quickly to move out of that spawn spot but if your firends dont get there quick you waont last the 30 seconds
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Vaughn Zoran
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Posted - 2004.11.26 04:11:00 -
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Just warped into a 3/10 rated complex with 40+ cruiser & frigs roughly 2k from most of them 
Needless to say I lost, and lost some very good eq
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Vaughn Zoran
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Posted - 2004.11.26 04:11:00 -
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Just warped into a 3/10 rated complex with 40+ cruiser & frigs roughly 2k from most of them
Needless to say I lost, and lost some very good eq
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Xelios
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Posted - 2004.11.26 04:17:00 -
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This bug really does suck, the missions are pretty well impossible because of it =/
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Xelios
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Posted - 2004.11.26 04:17:00 -
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This bug really does suck, the missions are pretty well impossible because of it =/
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Morval
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Posted - 2004.11.26 04:51:00 -
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I appreciate your trying to warn your fellow players about this issue.
May I suggest that if you haven't already done so, you file a bug report outlining the problems you encountered. Developers LOVE clear, consise, descriptions of problems, as well as detailed conditions to reproduce the problem.
For example:
Four of us were in system X, trying to enter deadspace complex Y at location Z. We were in the following ships ..., we warped in using the following technique, and encounted a condition whereby each member warping in caused the next member to be "bumped" X kilomters from our initial location.
File enough bug reports like this, and developers will start to recognize your name, and know that they can rely on you to provide useful bug reports. You may even find that little nit bugs that you submit start to get fixed.
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Morval
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Posted - 2004.11.26 04:51:00 -
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I appreciate your trying to warn your fellow players about this issue.
May I suggest that if you haven't already done so, you file a bug report outlining the problems you encountered. Developers LOVE clear, consise, descriptions of problems, as well as detailed conditions to reproduce the problem.
For example:
Four of us were in system X, trying to enter deadspace complex Y at location Z. We were in the following ships ..., we warped in using the following technique, and encounted a condition whereby each member warping in caused the next member to be "bumped" X kilomters from our initial location.
File enough bug reports like this, and developers will start to recognize your name, and know that they can rely on you to provide useful bug reports. You may even find that little nit bugs that you submit start to get fixed.
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Siygo
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Posted - 2004.11.26 04:57:00 -
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thats really not my job when i order a steak from the waiter i dont really want to tell him how to type it into the computer and how to enter the kitchen and pick it up to bring it to my table all i know is i payed for the damn thing and i want to talk to my wife at dinner not the fricken waiter
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Siygo
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Posted - 2004.11.26 04:57:00 -
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thats really not my job when i order a steak from the waiter i dont really want to tell him how to type it into the computer and how to enter the kitchen and pick it up to bring it to my table all i know is i payed for the damn thing and i want to talk to my wife at dinner not the fricken waiter
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.11.26 11:49:00 -
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Stick to the topic, please.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |
Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.11.26 11:49:00 -
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Stick to the topic, please.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |
Piscis
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Posted - 2004.11.26 11:55:00 -
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 Originally by: Siygo
thats really not my job when i order a steak from the waiter i dont really want to tell him how to type it into the computer and how to enter the kitchen and pick it up to bring it to my table all i know is i payed for the damn thing and i want to talk to my wife at dinner not the fricken waiter
yes, but if that waiter brings it back wrong (under/ overcooked) you need to tell him exactly what is wrong with it so that he can get it fixed.
we're not asking you to become a full bug hunter, but if you find a problem, just report it well.
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Piscis
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Posted - 2004.11.26 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Siygo
thats really not my job when i order a steak from the waiter i dont really want to tell him how to type it into the computer and how to enter the kitchen and pick it up to bring it to my table all i know is i payed for the damn thing and i want to talk to my wife at dinner not the fricken waiter
yes, but if that waiter brings it back wrong (under/ overcooked) you need to tell him exactly what is wrong with it so that he can get it fixed.
we're not asking you to become a full bug hunter, but if you find a problem, just report it well.
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Del Narveux
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Posted - 2004.11.26 12:08:00 -
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Anyway, Im assuming youre talking about complexes, which indeed are friggin impossibly hard. Let me share my experiences with em:
First off I tried to squeeze my fat Cormorant backside into a level 2 in Ylandorki. Didnt fit lol, so found a level 3. Got about halfway through no problems then suddenly I get ganked by like 10 rogue drones. Wasnt expecting that, figured next time Id own them with a little smartbomb action.
Later on tried a level 2 in a kestrel. Again, first half was fine, got about 3 sections in and suddenly theres like 5 ospreys and a couple of blackbirds comin down on me, not to mention 20+ frigates. Needless to say I got the hell out and summoned backup. Later that night I returned with 3 friends, 1 quit 1 lagged out leaving me and anohter guy to face the final stage. We got wtfpwned by dread guristas ospreys, and there were a LOT more of them I would have had to deal with.
Then I tried to solo a level 1 complex. Easy, right? Yeah, except for about 5 more ospreys and dozens of frigates on the last stage. What am I supposed to bring, a 100 member frig fleet? 20 assault frigs?
Then I tried a level 2 drone complex with a Coercer fitted with 7 bombs and a laser. First two stages were total bomb wtfpwntage. Then hit the third and last stage of it when I came against a drone rated a 'significant' threat that shot a bloodclaw about every 0.75 seconds and was nearly impervious to my bombs.
Clearly the complex difficulty is MASSIVELY screwed up. Even the parts I had no trouble with would be death to anyone who hasnt done a lot of NPC'ing and used to having dozen(s) of little ships swarming you. You shoudl be able to solo at least the first 5 or so levels in the largest ship you can fit through, even if youre not very good at killing NPC (want more challenge, bring a smaller ship). Rewards are pretty sucky too, at least compared to current difficulty levels. Bounties are not all that big in most cases, and the reward box thingie you get at the end and can sell to NPC for like 50k is not so wonderful if you lost 3 frigates in the process of getting it.
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aka Cpt Bogus
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Del Narveux
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Posted - 2004.11.26 12:08:00 -
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Anyway, Im assuming youre talking about complexes, which indeed are friggin impossibly hard. Let me share my experiences with em:
First off I tried to squeeze my fat Cormorant backside into a level 2 in Ylandorki. Didnt fit lol, so found a level 3. Got about halfway through no problems then suddenly I get ganked by like 10 rogue drones. Wasnt expecting that, figured next time Id own them with a little smartbomb action.
Later on tried a level 2 in a kestrel. Again, first half was fine, got about 3 sections in and suddenly theres like 5 ospreys and a couple of blackbirds comin down on me, not to mention 20+ frigates. Needless to say I got the hell out and summoned backup. Later that night I returned with 3 friends, 1 quit 1 lagged out leaving me and anohter guy to face the final stage. We got wtfpwned by dread guristas ospreys, and there were a LOT more of them I would have had to deal with.
Then I tried to solo a level 1 complex. Easy, right? Yeah, except for about 5 more ospreys and dozens of frigates on the last stage. What am I supposed to bring, a 100 member frig fleet? 20 assault frigs?
Then I tried a level 2 drone complex with a Coercer fitted with 7 bombs and a laser. First two stages were total bomb wtfpwntage. Then hit the third and last stage of it when I came against a drone rated a 'significant' threat that shot a bloodclaw about every 0.75 seconds and was nearly impervious to my bombs.
Clearly the complex difficulty is MASSIVELY screwed up. Even the parts I had no trouble with would be death to anyone who hasnt done a lot of NPC'ing and used to having dozen(s) of little ships swarming you. You shoudl be able to solo at least the first 5 or so levels in the largest ship you can fit through, even if youre not very good at killing NPC (want more challenge, bring a smaller ship). Rewards are pretty sucky too, at least compared to current difficulty levels. Bounties are not all that big in most cases, and the reward box thingie you get at the end and can sell to NPC for like 50k is not so wonderful if you lost 3 frigates in the process of getting it.
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[SAK] And Proud Of It!
aka Cpt Bogus
Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? |
Majin Buu
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Posted - 2004.11.26 12:36:00 -
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BTW its not just dungeons, its when ever 1 pilot warps to a point which is occupied by another pilot as we found out yesterday when 5 of us gang warped to another person. Comming out of warp 3 of us were pushed 200-300km away from the person behind us comming out of warp
BoB KillBoard |
Majin Buu
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Posted - 2004.11.26 12:36:00 -
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BTW its not just dungeons, its when ever 1 pilot warps to a point which is occupied by another pilot as we found out yesterday when 5 of us gang warped to another person. Comming out of warp 3 of us were pushed 200-300km away from the person behind us comming out of warp
BoB KillBoard |
Valar CCP
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Posted - 2004.11.26 12:44:00 -
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A hotfix was deployed at downtime today that addresses the issue of players that go through a warp gate end up at exacly the same place. This will not resolve the bumping when gang warping, but should fix the main issue here.
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Valar
Quality assurance department
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Valar CCP
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Posted - 2004.11.26 12:44:00 -
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A hotfix was deployed at downtime today that addresses the issue of players that go through a warp gate end up at exacly the same place. This will not resolve the bumping when gang warping, but should fix the main issue here.
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Valar
Quality assurance department
CCP games |
Brian Detaah
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog
Originally by: Majin Buu
jeees guys, he posts on here warning everyone of a "bug" that could result in the loss of your ship and all you do is flame him??
grow up
Well, if he's going to warn people, the least he can do is make it understandable so we don't have to spend 10 minutes trying to decipher the message.
If you spend 10 mins trying to understand that, money spend on your presumed education is well wasted.
Anyway, this seems to happen quite alot when moving in groups, esp battleships.
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`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'
`The question is,' said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many different things.'
`The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master - - that's all.'
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Brian Detaah
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog
Originally by: Majin Buu
jeees guys, he posts on here warning everyone of a "bug" that could result in the loss of your ship and all you do is flame him??
grow up
Well, if he's going to warn people, the least he can do is make it understandable so we don't have to spend 10 minutes trying to decipher the message.
If you spend 10 mins trying to understand that, money spend on your presumed education is well wasted.
Anyway, this seems to happen quite alot when moving in groups, esp battleships.
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`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'
`The question is,' said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many different things.'
`The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master - - that's all.'
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0seeker0
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:28:00 -
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Stop whinging at someone doing you a favour, please.
I nearly didnt bother to write this. But why can you all be so bothered to criticise instead of saying thank you? maybe he's from i dunno, iceland or ukraine, or america; you know, some place where they dont speak english.
I know its hard to believe but english isnt everybody and his mums first language.
San.
Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware.
Check my bio for a list of known scammers.
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0seeker0
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:28:00 -
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Stop whinging at someone doing you a favour, please.
I nearly didnt bother to write this. But why can you all be so bothered to criticise instead of saying thank you? maybe he's from i dunno, iceland or ukraine, or america; you know, some place where they dont speak english.
I know its hard to believe but english isnt everybody and his mums first language.
San.
Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware.
Check my bio for a list of known scammers.
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Hellmar
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:30:00 -
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We are doing our best to fix this but we need more concise cases for reproduction. The fix we put out today probably only fixes a small option of the cases. If you could provide input into the following:
- Does it happen more/less in Deadspace Complexes
- If so does it happen more/less on the first entry gate or on all the acceleration gates
- Does it happen more/less if you are warping in a gang
- Does it happen more/less if you are warping to a member of your gang
- Does it happen more/less if you are in a big ship
- etc.
All information as to what increases the chance of this happening, be it specific actions or specific circumstance will help us immensely with tracking this down.
thank in advance for you help
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Hellmar
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:30:00 -
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We are doing our best to fix this but we need more concise cases for reproduction. The fix we put out today probably only fixes a small option of the cases. If you could provide input into the following:
- Does it happen more/less in Deadspace Complexes
- If so does it happen more/less on the first entry gate or on all the acceleration gates
- Does it happen more/less if you are warping in a gang
- Does it happen more/less if you are warping to a member of your gang
- Does it happen more/less if you are in a big ship
- etc.
All information as to what increases the chance of this happening, be it specific actions or specific circumstance will help us immensely with tracking this down.
thank in advance for you help
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0seeker0
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Posted - 2004.11.26 19:04:00 -
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**bump**
Cause they still need info from all the poor saps who lost thier ships.
San.
Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware.
Check my bio for a list of known scammers.
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0seeker0
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Posted - 2004.11.26 19:04:00 -
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**bump**
Cause they still need info from all the poor saps who lost thier ships.
San.
Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware.
Check my bio for a list of known scammers.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.11.26 19:10:00 -
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I was testing on singularity.
I jumped through the accel gate, and arrived in space.
My friend jumped through the accel gate, arrived in space, hit me, and pushed my 50km forward, into the gaping maw of many ships.
this was with both of us in frigates.
I haven't experienced it since, cos I don't have many friends 
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.11.26 19:10:00 -
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I was testing on singularity.
I jumped through the accel gate, and arrived in space.
My friend jumped through the accel gate, arrived in space, hit me, and pushed my 50km forward, into the gaping maw of many ships.
this was with both of us in frigates.
I haven't experienced it since, cos I don't have many friends
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