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Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.02.16 15:49:00 - [1] Just how did you determine that the medium shader wasn't used that much by the eve community resulting in your decision to remove it? ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!
RaTTuS BIG Aegis Militia	Posted - 2010.02.16 15:51:00 - [2] IBTL, what is your problem anyways -- \| Capital
Benri Konpaku	Posted - 2010.02.16 15:52:00 - [3] ibtl
Percy Soars	Posted - 2010.02.16 15:55:00 - [4] If I had a penny for every useless thread you start, I could buy you a decent graphics card.
Serpents smile	Posted - 2010.02.16 15:57:00 - [5] Some of us will enjoy your forum ban, will not disclose who.
Khemul Zula Amarr Keisen Trade League	Posted - 2010.02.16 15:57:00 - [6] Edited by: Khemul Zula on 16/02/2010 15:57:24 Tea leaves. That is how they determined it. I can predict some things that way right now too... Originally by: GM Horse I've sadly misplaced my magic "find farmers in ravens" button.
Fergus McRae Gallente New Eden Regimental Navy Rebel Alliance of New Eden	Posted - 2010.02.16 15:58:00 - [7] Uhh... what was the "medium shader"? --- Fergus McRae Cerebral Mastication
Abrazzar	Posted - 2010.02.16 15:59:00 - [8] They made a survey. --------
Clone 1 Ministry of Mojo	Posted - 2010.02.16 16:00:00 - [9] Quote: The Plan What we'd like to do is a two step approach to ensure that EVE continues to be jaw-dropping gorgeous: Step 1: In Apocrypha, March 10th, we discontinue support for ShaderModel 1, making ShaderModel 2 (GeForce FX (5 series) or ATi R300 series cards or compatible) the minimum requirement and discontinue the "Classic client" version of EVE, replacing it with "Premium Lite" Step 2: In the Winter Expansion 2009 we are considering discontinuing support for ShaderModel 2 and make the minimum specification ShaderModel 3(GeForce 6 class cards or ATi x1300 or compatible) We know this will affect some players out there. What we don't know is exactly how many. We estimate that about 95% of all subscribers currently have hardware that is SM2 compatible. We further predict that in q4 this year over 97% of subscribers will have SM3 capable hardware. This means that an estimate of anywhere from 3%-5% of current subscribers would have to update their computers or graphics cards to be able to continue playing. Linkage This was posted a YEAR AGO. Grow up. -------------------------------------------------- I got ganked at Za'Ha'Dum, but I am ok now.
Twiddlles Golden Clover Astrogeologists Revival Of The Talocan Empire	Posted - 2010.02.16 16:03:00 - [10] You're welcome.

Lork Niffle Gallente External Hard Drive	Posted - 2010.02.16 16:03:00 - [11] Originally by: Clone 1 Quote: The Plan What we'd like to do is a two step approach to ensure that EVE continues to be jaw-dropping gorgeous: Step 1: In Apocrypha, March 10th, we discontinue support for ShaderModel 1, making ShaderModel 2 (GeForce FX (5 series) or ATi R300 series cards or compatible) the minimum requirement and discontinue the "Classic client" version of EVE, replacing it with "Premium Lite" Step 2: In the Winter Expansion 2009 we are considering discontinuing support for ShaderModel 2 and make the minimum specification ShaderModel 3(GeForce 6 class cards or ATi x1300 or compatible) We know this will affect some players out there. What we don't know is exactly how many. We estimate that about 95% of all subscribers currently have hardware that is SM2 compatible. We further predict that in q4 this year over 97% of subscribers will have SM3 capable hardware. This means that an estimate of anywhere from 3%-5% of current subscribers would have to update their computers or graphics cards to be able to continue playing. Linkage This was posted a YEAR AGO. Grow up. The only issue with that is they removed Medium Shader, not Low which measn the game still has a SM2 lower limit. I don't care about medium shader since i never used it, just pointing out that CCP were thinking about removing low shader when they removed the classic client but decided against it since so many people can only use SM2 over those who could only use SM1. ------------------------------------- The system issues man.
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2010.02.16 16:08:00 - [12] Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Just how did you determine that the medium shader wasn't used that much by the eve community resulting in your decision to remove it? Originally by: EULA CCP may monitor usage of the System to gather statistical information.... zomg _____________________ Horrors! Demons in the deep!
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.02.16 16:36:00 - [13] Well, I appreciate all the circle jerk volunteers but I was hoping to hear from a dev. For as many times as I've posted this topic, no one in an official capacity has responded. Which make me wonder if they have a straight answer. ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!
RaTTuS BIG Aegis Militia	Posted - 2010.02.16 16:42:00 - [14] Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Well, I appreciate all the circle jerk volunteers but I was hoping to hear from a dev. For as many times as I've posted this topic, no one in an official capacity has responded. Which make me wonder if they have a straight answer. Why do you think they should respond to your many posts about it? why not post a bug report ? -- \| Capital
Percy Soars	Posted - 2010.02.16 16:49:00 - [15] Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Well, I appreciate all the circle jerk volunteers but I was hoping to hear from a dev. For as many times as I've posted this topic, no one in an official capacity has responded. Which make me wonder if they have a straight answer. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results? ..?
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.02.16 16:51:00 - [16] Originally by: Percy Soars Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Well, I appreciate all the circle jerk volunteers but I was hoping to hear from a dev. For as many times as I've posted this topic, no one in an official capacity has responded. Which make me wonder if they have a straight answer. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results? ..? Tell that to a gambler. ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!
Shant Gallente Freedom	Posted - 2010.02.16 16:54:00 - [17] is a bad thread imo
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.02.16 17:15:00 - [18] Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Just how did you determine that the medium shader wasn't used that much by the eve community resulting in your decision to remove it? [sarcasm] I have this absolutely novel idea which might amaze you : maybe, JUST MAYBE, the client occasionally reports to the server which shader model it uses right now, and maybe CCP also stores that data instead of throwing it into /dev/null. Of course, there's always the possibility a CCP dev asked around the office and then said "screw it". [/sarcasm] _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
Samantha U	Posted - 2010.02.16 17:15:00 - [19] Edited by: Samantha U on 16/02/2010 17:15:44 Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Originally by: Percy Soars Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Well, I appreciate all the circle jerk volunteers but I was hoping to hear from a dev. For as many times as I've posted this topic, no one in an official capacity has responded. Which make me wonder if they have a straight answer. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results? ..? Tell that to a gambler. Confirming that posting repeatedly on a subject that is already covered in Assembly Hall is just like gambling.
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2010.02.16 17:29:00 - [20] Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Well, I appreciate all the circle jerk volunteers but I was hoping to hear from a dev. yeah, you know how the devs just love to grace us with their presence to deal with GD whinethreads. the only response you're (rightly) going to get from CCP is "locked - no content" _____________________ Horrors! Demons in the deep!

Irida Mershkov Gallente Honour Before Death Nominis Expers	Posted - 2010.02.16 17:31:00 - [21] Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Just how did you determine that the medium shader wasn't used that much by the eve community resulting in your decision to remove it? Probably taking info from the server to see how many people used it I guess.
Niccolado Starwalker Gallente Shadow Templars	Posted - 2010.02.16 18:58:00 - [22] Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Just how did you determine that the medium shader wasn't used that much by the eve community resulting in your decision to remove it? Why dont you stop posting? Reopening threads over a stupid topic is not the smartest thing you can do. Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.
brutoid Caldari	Posted - 2010.02.16 19:26:00 - [23] Its actually a massive joke on you Nooma. They only removed the medium shader on YOUR client. The rest of us got an email telling us to go along with it. Sorry CCP but the jokes gone on too long now.
Valeo Galaem New Eden Advanced Reconnaissance Unit Sentient World Observation and Response Directive	Posted - 2010.02.16 19:32:00 - [24] Originally by: brutoid Its actually a massive joke on you Nooma. They only removed the medium shader on YOUR client. The rest of us got an email telling us to go along with it. Sorry CCP but the jokes gone on too long now. /thread, ibtl, etc Thar be Pirates You are not authorised to hack into CONCORD's mainframe Your Wallet has been emptied! CONCORD Encryption Methods
Aloriana Jacques Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2010.02.16 19:59:00 - [25] Originally by: Percy Soars Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results? Textbook symptom of insanity. - - - Aloriana Jacques - Skill Sheet
Virgil Travis Gallente	Posted - 2010.02.16 20:14:00 - [26] Did I miss the massive uproar that normally occurs when they nerf something? I recall there was one post about it then it fell of the first page of GD within a few days, and that could have been one of Nooma's alts for all I know.
Pesky LaRue Minmatar Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels	Posted - 2010.02.16 20:20:00 - [27] Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 16/02/2010 20:22:02 Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Originally by: Percy Soars Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Well, I appreciate all the circle jerk volunteers but I was hoping to hear from a dev. For as many times as I've posted this topic, no one in an official capacity has responded. Which make me wonder if they have a straight answer. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results? ..? Tell that to a gambler. You obviously understand as much about gambling as you do about client/server technology... ...and you can keep on wondering if they have a straight answer, chances are you'll never get a Dev reply on this subject - they don't generally troll the boards looking for entitled whingers who feel they deserve a personalised response to a non-issue. . [Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels]
Kerfira Audaces Fortuna Iuvat	Posted - 2010.02.16 20:24:00 - [28] I've done a detailed survey of the people for which this is an issue. This was done by counting the number of disaffected people on the forum, and subtracting the OP. Result: 0 Conclusion: The OP is just a whiner.... Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2010.02.16 22:16:00 - [29] We surveyed. The result was that 6.7% used the medium setting, about a quarter used the low setting and about 70% used the high setting. We determined that the development effort required to maintain the medium shader was unfortunately not worth it and we decided to focus our efforts on the high and low shaders. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Tero Alphaverti	Posted - 2010.02.16 22:35:00 - [30] Originally by: CCP Explorer We surveyed. The result was that 6.7% used the medium setting, about a quarter used the low setting and about 70% used the high setting. We determined that the development effort required to maintain the medium shader was unfortunately not worth it and we decided to focus our efforts on the high and low shaders. Waiting for ultra high...



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