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Izuru Hishido
Amarr
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
Violent Society
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Posted - 2010.02.19 20:30:00 -
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People are always saying that space is a big place, right?
Contrary to what most people believe, this space isn't.
This specific message is going out to the people that want sovereignty, but can't take it simply because the moment they do, a much larger alliance simply bowls over them and overwhelms say...a 200 man alliance with about 50-60 active players with a 1,500 man alliance with about 700 active players. The simple fact is, the smaller alliance simply doesn't have the means to fight back against the larger alliances, simply because they all want the same spot.
The sandbox is getting too crowded, to use a CCP term.
My proposal is extremely simple. Increase the amount of space in the normal EVE galaxy by a large amount, say five new regions with about 125 systems each. That total would allow a huge amount of new expansion, and the propsects of expanding further outward would be ideal for a large alliance, thus leaving the smaller alliances free to simply hold three or four systems out of a constellation. The galaxy as it is presents too little opportunity to expand simply because the larger alliances take up a huge amount of room within the nullsec regions.
More room in the sandbox, more people can play comfortably.
Of course, I'm not suggesting that CCP comes up with say...another five regions of wormhole space, I mean in the actual galaxy itself, where no doubt more than 90% of the playerbase prefers to reside. The additional room would give enough space to allow players to explore other options while not stifling the players that already have a foothold in a certain area of space. More freedom would allow the smaller groups to simply be overlooked by the much larger alliances, and thus their efforts to build up wouldn't be utterly wasted by the attempt.
All this said, this is simply a proposal, so if you have more to contribute, please do.
"The point of war is not to die for your country, its to make the other bastard die for his." |
Xtover
Suicide Kings
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Posted - 2010.02.19 20:39:00 -
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Edited by: Xtover on 19/02/2010 20:41:50
The VAST majority of 0.0 is empty.
alliance sov is shrinking and will continue to as the "fat" is trimmed.
That will leave plenty of pockets where you can hop in.. the alliance that gave it up will often just "meh" you. It's already happening if you look at the influence map (Black Star Alliance, HUN reloaded, Sex Drugs and Rock 'n' Roll, Industrial Revolution, Primary., Honorable Templum of...wtf?, Green Alliance, Flame Bridge, Stella Polaris.)
More and more will open.
A few years ago the drone regions were opened up because people were hollering about it. And here we are, again.
There's plenty of open space out there. Go and take it... just be ready to fight to keep it.
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Zarofdium
Caldari
Imperial Syndicate Forces
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.02.20 04:59:00 -
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In regards to the 2nd poster:
You can also attempt to become friendly with or "rent space from" one of the larger 0.0 alliances. A large number of 0.0 alliances have an extremely low population density. Meaning, there is a lot of "claimed space" that is not being used at all.
Be warned: most alliances that you rent from will put you as a 'buffer' between themselves and their enemies. Although they will often defend their/ your sovereignty (Depending on your arrangements), they will usually not protect you from roaming gangs.
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Hoodat Bee
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Posted - 2010.02.20 06:43:00 -
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So long as you can hop across a region with only a couple of jumps, no space will be too far away from rent seeking warmongers.
The only really useful means of reducing the effective sphere of influence of the larger 0.0 entities is curtailing their ability to gallivant around the universe at will without leaving their home space undefended. Reducing the jump range of ships, shortening the titan bridging range and cutting the jump bridge structure entirely out of the game, would go a long way towards bringing back the older, more fragmented space of years prior.
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Ben Derindar
Dirty Deeds Corp.
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Posted - 2010.02.20 07:34:00 -
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Completely disagree. Adding space will only band-aid the problem, the existing superpowers will still have the ability to just steamroll through it in the name of "good fights".
The real solution is to nerf all forms of long distance travel to the point where it will become too much effort for people to jump across the galaxy anymore. That way, a newer/smaller alliance can still try to take a small corner of 0.0 and only have to worry about being curbstomped by a fraction of the map instead of the entire map.
/Ben
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White Tree
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Posted - 2010.02.20 13:03:00 -
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 Originally by: Xtover
Edited by: Xtover on 19/02/2010 20:41:50
The VAST majority of 0.0 is empty.
This does not stop larger alliances from steamrolling smaller ones. Larger alliances will arbitrarily capture systems they never use just for the sake of it.
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2010.02.20 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ben Derindar
Completely disagree. Adding space will only band-aid the problem, the existing superpowers will still have the ability to just steamroll through it in the name of "good fights".
The real solution is to nerf all forms of long distance travel to the point where it will become too much effort for people to jump across the galaxy anymore. That way, a newer/smaller alliance can still try to take a small corner of 0.0 and only have to worry about being curbstomped by a fraction of the map instead of the entire map.
/Ben
+1 from me
In a sense EVE to small , but its not because of to low amout of systems , its becuase logistics are to easy.
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343guilty1
Gallente
Strategic Insanity
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Posted - 2010.02.20 14:56:00 -
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Also think about the fact of the placement of the systems. CCP, if they did add these systems could not just put them in the midst of current null sec, but would have to expand it out further. Where would the current "Huge" alliances take? The ones closest to empire, because that's where you sell everything and buy everything. So not only will smaller alliances have to go even further, it would be through more hostile space, and more often than not, your hard work, salvage and loot will all be confiscated by large greedy alliances and the only real way to get it back relatively safe would be jump freighters. This would also create a massive imbalance between empire and outlaw space, so you would also have to add new space to this region as well.
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Xtover
Suicide Kings
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Posted - 2010.02.20 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: White Tree
Originally by: Xtover
Edited by: Xtover on 19/02/2010 20:41:50
The VAST majority of 0.0 is empty.
This does not stop larger alliances from steamrolling smaller ones. Larger alliances will arbitrarily capture systems they never use just for the sake of it.
Wrong. From the outside it may look that way. Many are station systems and require sov. Many have jump bridges, cyno gens, or now with dominion are 'developed'. In some cases they are strategic (49u, HED, EC-P8R, BWF, etc.)
And 0.0 has never been "more fragmented"...wtf was the poster that said it was thinking? I remember ASCN holding the entire southeast, D2(G) the north, razor/iron, BoB, Red Alliance- all owning multiple regions. Or go back even further to Xetic/5/CA/PA....
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Rvlxnx
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Posted - 2010.02.20 19:43:00 -
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Edited by: Rvlxnx on 20/02/2010 19:43:41
Space is an unforgiving place (skill up or stay in high sec, like me atm) so i would have to disagree with adding more space until we become so overpopulated that there is absolutely no where to go or until we get to a point of a total standoff where either or all sides can no longer conquer anything at all.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.02.20 21:20:00 -
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If you want space get out there and fight for it like everyone else.
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