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No More Heroes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.29 18:06:00 -
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Republic Citizen wrote:MeBiatch wrote:[quote=Mortimer Civeri]no eve is a sandbox and in it you do what you like...
1st of all -- you can't create your own content. nuff said
I do everyday, what the hell game are you playing?
Some days I want to log an and go do some anomalies, some days I wanna go camp a gate with some bros and put a movie in, some days I wanna get in the fleet with 300 other dudes and go do 'things' other days I wanna move my stuff about and organize it better, some days I wanna change up my PI planets because I'm firmly convinced I'm losing efficiency somewhere. Other days I wanna get in a small gang with my squad and go pick a fight.
Sandbox > Themepark.
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MadMuppet
A Better Corp Name
489
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Posted - 2012.06.29 18:16:00 -
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Somewhere recently was a mention that they were going to redo missions so that there were few ships but they were fit more like actual PVP ships. So instead of 20 insta-pop frigates you might run in to two PVP Wolves. Not sure where it was though, maybe in the dev blog about the ship rebalancing (where everybody freaked at BC and DD skills becoming racial.
If I tried to make a type of coffee that made all of you happy, and you rated it, the group score for it would be about 60 out of 100. Break into 3 or 4 coffee clusters, and made coffee just for each cluster, the scores would go from 60 to 78. The difference between coffee at 60 and coffee at 78 is a difference between coffee that makes you wince or makes you happy. |
MeBiatch
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
446
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Posted - 2012.06.29 18:22:00 -
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Niena Nuamzzar wrote:MeBiatch wrote:
I would love it if they re did the entire mission system...
still keep it a solo able to do but make it more dynamic... and fun...
Giving true love to missions CCP would attract more (new) players (to stay) then with everything else combined yet they still just don't get it 
Not empty quoting
PLEX FOR PIZZA!
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MeBiatch
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
446
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Posted - 2012.06.29 18:25:00 -
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Andoria Thara wrote:I got bored with missions, so I started scanning down sites. I've been having lots of luck with escalations.
Right I got to the point where I could solo a 10/10 complex in my rattlesnake... Gets dry after a few months...
PLEX FOR PIZZA!
-áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |
Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
67
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Posted - 2012.06.29 18:33:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:Andoria Thara wrote:I got bored with missions, so I started scanning down sites. I've been having lots of luck with escalations. Right I got to the point where I could solo a 10/10 complex in my rattlesnake... Gets dry after a few months...
Maybe this is thinking too far outside of the isk/hour box, but if something gets too easy, why not try and do it with a different strategy, different fit, or maybe even a different ship?
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Din Chao
Seraphim Initiative
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Posted - 2012.06.29 18:35:00 -
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Mortimer Civeri wrote:Missions are supposed to be a boring repettitive grind, so that you can stop doing them when you are able to support yourself, and do fun things with corp mates and friends.
Says who?
And who says you can't do missions with corp mates and friends? Of course they're soloable, doesn't mean you can't do it with other people. |
Din Chao
Seraphim Initiative
17
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Posted - 2012.06.29 18:38:00 -
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Andoria Thara wrote:Maybe this is thinking too far outside of the isk/hour box, but if something gets too easy, why not try and do it with a different strategy, different fit, or maybe even a different ship?
I've always wanted to get a few friends and do L4s in frig gangs. |
Rikanin
Wargasm Inc
48
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Posted - 2012.06.29 18:39:00 -
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Beckie DeLey wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:Um... did you not notice all those Incursions out there? did you notice i said missions/complexes and i said solo? 0/10
0/10 for your useless post rating |
Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
67
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Posted - 2012.06.29 18:40:00 -
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Din Chao wrote:I've always wanted to get a few friends and do L4s in frig gangs.
With rockets! |
Din Chao
Seraphim Initiative
17
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Posted - 2012.06.29 18:46:00 -
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Andoria Thara wrote:Din Chao wrote:I've always wanted to get a few friends and do L4s in frig gangs. With rockets!
**** YEAH!!! |
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MeBiatch
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
447
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Posted - 2012.06.29 19:40:00 -
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Din Chao wrote:Andoria Thara wrote:Din Chao wrote:I've always wanted to get a few friends and do L4s in frig gangs. With rockets! **** YEAH!!!
i was thinking 30 ibii with civil blasters!
PLEX FOR PIZZA!
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Boober Fraggle
3
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Posted - 2012.06.29 20:41:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:Um... did you not notice all those Incursions out there?
0/10.
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
226
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Posted - 2012.06.29 20:55:00 -
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Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Missions are a means to an end. Namely ISK generation, or to increase standings with a corp or faction for certain tax advantages. They aren't supposed to be primary content like in other MMO's. Missions are supposed to be a boring repettitive grind, so that you can stop doing them when you are able to support yourself, and do fun things with corp mates and friends. ( Whether it is market PvP, the cutthroat buisness of industry PvP, or shooting others is up to you.)
So no, I hope they never redo the mission system.
Please promise you will never ever design a game. What you have stated is probably one of the worst concepts for an activity within a game. Nothing should be designed to be intentionally unenjoyable, even when that activity is intended only as a means to another end. |
Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal
Terran Commonwealth
182
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Posted - 2012.06.29 21:12:00 -
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Sheynan wrote:Incursions and the like are the new missions, get over it
Only if youd ont have a deadspace fit faction battleship, your worthless. |
Conrad Makbure
Phoibe Enterprises
10
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Posted - 2012.06.29 23:00:00 -
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The mission system can use an overhaul for sure. EVE doesn't really have any 'good' competition, per se, so the PVE content in this game is a joke and stays a joke - because why change it when your subscribers can do nothing abou it?
We've got STO - LMAO. What a F'in joke of game, period.
Battlestar Galactica Online - even less content (although I've never played it, it's from what I see/read out there).
Facebook game on the side bar. Yeah, no thanks.
SWTOR - Never played this one, but I follow the Mintchip vids when she posts stuff about it and though she's never really negative about it, 400,000 or so people didn't just up and quit for no F'in reason. WoW clone in space maybe?
Anyway:
http://xmmorpg.com/category/free-sci-fi-mmo-mmorpg-games?_oskwdid=11310561&_engineadid=22972742036&gclid=CO-27e_F9LACFQ8KKgodOhox1A
I've got about 19mil SP's so I'm just going to play this guy out for now. Some fresh new solo mission content would be great in the near future. |
Cedar Locus
Drone Federation
40
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Posted - 2012.06.29 23:56:00 -
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tl;dr
but to answer your question, actually no |
MeBiatch
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
451
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Posted - 2012.06.30 00:47:00 -
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Letti Blass wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:Um... did you not notice all those Incursions out there? did you notice i said missions/complexes and i said solo? Ah yes solo more mission runners to Gank I like 
i mostly do lev iv in stain... kinda hard to gank someone in 0.0
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Danel Tosh
EVE Protection Agency
Intrepid Crossing
27
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Posted - 2012.06.30 01:01:00 -
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Its about time CCP did somthing about missions and complexes, first off they need to fix drone payouts so they are in line with the loot drops other factions have.
as far as gameplay experience goes I would like to give the rats more abilities than just thier feeble attempts at electronic warfare.
-allow them to RR thier fellow teammates. with a designated logistics ship of course that would only support thier fellow rats.
-Give them a command ship of sorts, would be an on grid booster giving its teamates an extra edge.
-allow them to use drones (just fast mini frigates that spawn next to a rat droneboat) |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
444
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Posted - 2012.06.30 01:17:00 -
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Lipbite wrote:Right now missions becomes boring after a couple of months. Some dynamics won't harm anyone. Something like random spawns with slightly more easy rats (currently some missions have borderline difficulty - in between "hard" and "popped").
PvE expansion could be nice. Though any hi-sec gameplay expansion could be nice - after 2 years of nothing.
^^That.^^
Just because something is a means to an end, doesn't mean it shouldn't be at least a little dynamic, fun, and engaging.
Missions as they are right now--exception: COSMOS, and the epic arcs, mainly because they're tougher and have a cool storyline--just put the "Grrrrrrr..." in "grind  "
1) Make missions as close to a PvP encounter as is feasible: Advanced AI, less ships, but omni-tank/damage, with a (small, for the solo player) player like fleet composition. Ready to fight the "boss?" You have to point him, he does the same to you, and better fit neuts and a cap-injector. Oh, and make NPC E-War less gratingly stupid "all or nothing," too.
2) Make l4s hard again--it used to mean something when you could say, "Yeah, I can solo 'Enemies Abound, mission 5/5' fairly comfortably," but now...? Too easy. Way too easy. Angels Extravaganza bonus-room? You needed a mate or two, and that was that. Of course, one should be able to tear up an L-4 with that ISK 2.5Bn Pimp-Gu, but one should also, always be at very real risk of losing it to the rats, and must actually fly the ship to mitigate that risk.
In irae, veritas. |
Kimmi Chan
Illuminatus Reforged
The Revenant Order
218
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Posted - 2012.06.30 01:27:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:Legit Question what do you think the timeline is for CCP to iterate on Missions and Complexes?
I would love it if they re did the entire mission system...
still keep it a solo able to do but make it more dynamic... and fun...
i know that you guys are working on pos's and moon goo stuff then redoing sov warfare...
but pretty pretty please after that focus on PVE missions on complexes?!?!?!
i would love you long time...
Sleeper or Sansha Incursion AI and I would be happy.
-á"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus |
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Kimmi Chan
Illuminatus Reforged
The Revenant Order
218
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Posted - 2012.06.30 01:28:00 -
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Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:Lipbite wrote:Right now missions becomes boring after a couple of months. Some dynamics won't harm anyone. Something like random spawns with slightly more easy rats (currently some missions have borderline difficulty - in between "hard" and "popped").
PvE expansion could be nice. Though any hi-sec gameplay expansion could be nice - after 2 years of nothing. ^^That.^^ Just because something is a means to an end, doesn't mean it shouldn't be at least a little dynamic, fun, and engaging. Missions as they are right now--exception: COSMOS, and the epic arcs, mainly because they're tougher and have a cool storyline--just put the "Grrrrrrr..." in "grind " 1) Make missions as close to a PvP encounter as is feasible: Advanced AI, less ships, but omni-tank/damage, with a (small, for the solo player) player like fleet composition. Ready to fight the "boss?" You have to point him, he does the same to you, and better fit neuts and a cap-injector. Oh, and make NPC E-War less gratingly stupid "all or nothing," too. 2) Make l4s hard again--it used to mean something when you could say, "Yeah, I can solo 'Enemies Abound, mission 5/5' fairly comfortably," but now...? Too easy. Way too easy. Angels Extravaganza bonus-room? You needed a mate or two, and that was that. Of course, one should be able to tear up an L-4 with that ISK 2.5Bn Pimp-Gu, but one should also, always be at very real risk of losing it to the rats, and must actually fly the ship to mitigate that risk.
I don't think there is any way known to mankind that I could possibly agree with you more on these points.
-á"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus |
Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION
Tactical Narcotics Team
163
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Posted - 2012.06.30 02:16:00 -
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PVE funds my PVP. I'd much rather be less bored while doing it. It'd be great if CCP overhauled anoms and any other PVE experience.
Oh wait I forgot it's edgy to be bored... |
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