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Krelina
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.21 00:16:00 -
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I want a pirate faction ship that uses Caldari ships with Projectile bonuses!?!?!
-I'm a WT alt to about 69 people, thats pretty awesome considering I'm just sitting in an npc corp. |
Sugilite
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2011.09.21 00:23:00 -
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Krelina wrote:I want a pirate faction ship that uses Caldari ships with Projectile bonuses!?!?!
I see useless question marks!?!?!? |
iKill Giants
Eternal Phoenix Rises
Dark Phoenix Rising.
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Posted - 2011.09.21 00:27:00 -
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Caldari can't have a cross-pirate faction with Minmatar because Minmatar is the Caldari pirate faction. |
Krelina
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.21 00:39:00 -
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Sugilite wrote:Krelina wrote:I want a pirate faction ship that uses Caldari ships with Projectile bonuses!?!?!
I see useless question marks!?!?!?
What do you mean!?!?!?
And ikill giants, the Minmatar have been around long enough to produce their own ship types and weapons, I'm asking for a cross bread of Minmatar weapons with Caldari ships. And they are at legal war not "pirating" |
William Cooly
Sol Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.09.21 00:49:00 -
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Krelina wrote:And ikill giants, the Minmatar have been around long enough to produce their own ship types and weapons, I'm asking for a cross bread of Minmatar weapons with Caldari ships. And they are at legal war not "pirating"
Went over his head like a passing Dramiel. |
Krelina
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.21 00:56:00 -
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William Cooly wrote:Krelina wrote:And ikill giants, the Minmatar have been around long enough to produce their own ship types and weapons, I'm asking for a cross bread of Minmatar weapons with Caldari ships. And they are at legal war not "pirating" Went over his head like a passing Dramiel.
Wouldn't Dramiels pass you? and I know of the Dramiel it's Galente/Minmatar. it has no bonuses to missile damage, and is supposed to use projectile, I'm looking for Projectile Guns on a Caldari ship. Are we clear on this part atleast? |
Sugilite
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2011.09.21 01:01:00 -
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Krelina wrote: and I know of the Dramiel
is supposed to use hybrid turrets
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Krelina
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.21 01:03:00 -
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Sugilite wrote:Krelina wrote: and I know of the Dramiel
is supposed to use hybrid turrets
Thank you for pointing out my "troll" (thats the new name for misstyping things today right?) |
Nezumiiro Noneko
Alternative Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.09.21 02:26:00 -
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pirate mixes setup in game already have balance issues, not getting new mixes. A minny/caldari mix would mean a gallente/amarr one to keep balance. Each races is part of 2 pirate ships. You got 2 races now in a 3rd mix....other 2 need it as well.
Secondly you can put projectiles on caldari ships. You lose range bonus of ship, about it. On paper its a fair tradeoff. Lose range, get cap back. Cap to run tank and such. DPS works out to about the same as well....but you get better type specific ammo splits. At some point plan on a trial run of an arty or ac rokhs now I cna run t2 projectiles myself. |
Goose99
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.21 02:30:00 -
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AC Ferox ftw |
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Aessaya
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2011.09.21 04:09:00 -
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Goose99 wrote:AC Ferox ftw
Actually, laser ferox is so much better... It's the only thing we, at Rooks and Kings, are afraid of (hint, hint!).
Ah, you seek meaning?-áThen listen to the music, not the song. |
Mfume Apocal
Origin.
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.09.21 04:46:00 -
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HML Vaga with resist bonus and enough mid for web(s).
This would be overpowered. |
Brynhilda
Massive PVPness
S I L E N T.
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Posted - 2011.09.21 05:13:00 -
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Nezumiiro Noneko wrote:pirate mixes setup in game already have balance issues, not getting new mixes. A minny/caldari mix would mean a gallente/amarr one to keep balance. Each races is part of 2 pirate ships. You got 2 races now in a 3rd mix....other 2 need it as well.
Actually....Gallente and Minmatar had 3 pirate corps.
Gallente has Guristas, Serpentis and Angels
Minmatar has Angels, Serpentis and Bloods |
MeBiatch
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.21 05:37:00 -
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it goes caldari/ammar = sansha
---------- gallente/caldari= guristas
---------- gallente/minnie=serpantis
----------minnie/gallente=angel
--------- minnie/ammar= blood
so it only makes sense that the tornado will be the minnie caldari pirate faction bs... give it shield resists damage per level and optimal range... make them high ehp high alpha beasts... |
Dravidshky
Falling Outside The Normal Moral Constraints
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Posted - 2011.09.21 17:52:00 -
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I think that a minmatar/caldari ship should use missiles because so far the only pirate ships that use missiles are the guristas and those hardly count as they are droneboats with missiles as secondary weapons while at the same time we do have a projectile using pirate faction, the angels. |
Elindreal
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.21 18:19:00 -
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I know it won't happen, but my dream Caldari/Minmatar boat would be:
role bonus: 25% bonus to unguided missile launcher rate of fire
Caldari ship bonus: 5% shield resist bonus per level
Minmatar ship bonus: 5% bonus to max speed per level OR 5% reduction is signature radius per level
short range missile hit and run beast |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2011.09.21 21:01:00 -
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Dravidshky wrote:I think that a minmatar/caldari ship should use missiles because so far the only pirate ships that use missiles are the guristas and those hardly count as they are droneboats with missiles as secondary weapons while at the same time we do have a projectile using pirate faction, the angels.
While we're dreaming, Amarr/Gallente should also be a more pure drone boat than Guristas.
Not that any of this is likely to be implemented in any reasonable time frame, and frankly that's fine with me. There are indeed enough issues with the current ship lineup that introducing six more potentially overpowered ships out of nowhere is just asking for trouble. |
Waylend Yutami
Waylend Yutami Corp
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Posted - 2011.09.21 22:21:00 -
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Hell why not chance EoM into a amarr/gallante hybrid why another caldari/amarr hybrid, major ship bonuses dunno any ideas for that what about a minmatar/caldari faction ships with typhoon/huginn like bonuses of both missile and procectile bonuses just an Idea though. Shoot it down if u must :P |
Waylend Yutami
Waylend Yutami Corp
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Posted - 2011.09.21 22:23:00 -
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Waylend Yutami wrote:Hell why not chance EoM into a amarr/gallante hybrid why another caldari/amarr hybrid, major ship bonuses dunno any ideas for that what about a minmatar/caldari faction ships with typhoon/huginn like bonuses of both missile and procectile bonuses just an Idea though. Shoot it down if u must :P
Hell a drone boat for EoM sounds about right what do religious fanatics want .... drones !!! |
Jacob Stov
Vanguard of Silence
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Posted - 2011.09.21 23:00:00 -
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Well, so far we have:
Angels: shield/armor projectile guns
Blood Raiders: armor laser + NOS/Neut
Guristas: shield drones + missiles
Sansha: shield laser
Serpenthis: armor hybrid guns
Missing so far: armor/missiles, shield/hybrids, armor/drones.
armor + drones would suit Gallente/Amarr. EoM ships are shield/hybrid guns- so no. Sisters of Eve may be a better faction.
The sisters arn't that much into shooting things themselfes-they prefer their little helpers to do the dirty work.
shield/hybrids. The combination I would kill for. Mordus. Legion. me. wants. Yet another Caldari/Gallente x-faction. *shrugs*
The other option would be EOM. Black dildos....meh
armor/missiles. Give Khanid an extra ship lineup ? I know a lot of people who would sell their granny for a black Abbadon...
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LIL TANYA Adoulin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.22 17:07:00 -
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Any colossus that will be formed from a combo like this will **** face any other ship out there. We talking about insane and applicable dps plus OMFG shield buffer coulped with high speed tthat all tallies to OWNAGE in my book.
If the combo is done properly, which I doubt, we should see a new line of FOTM ships that will take over the long/painstaking and probably enjoyable reign of angel cartel ships.
I rest my case. |
TImora Fosty
Warhamsters
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.09.23 06:21:00 -
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Mordus.... sounds good! |
Theodoric Darkwind
PonyWaffe
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.09.24 08:42:00 -
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Krelina wrote:I want a pirate faction ship that uses Caldari ships with Projectile bonuses!?!?!
wouldn't that just be a slow minmatar ship with crap PG, weak cap, and less dronebay?
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Theodoric Darkwind
PonyWaffe
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.09.24 08:57:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:it goes caldari/ammar = sansha
---------- gallente/caldari= guristas
---------- gallente/minnie=serpantis
----------minnie/gallente=angel
--------- minnie/ammar= blood
so it only makes sense that the tornado will be the minnie caldari pirate faction bs... give it shield resists damage per level and optimal range... make them high ehp high alpha beasts...
Shield resist and armor resist bonuses are already available on the loki depending on choice of subsystems. Assuming the Tornado would be a T3 BS it would likely have the same defensive subsystems.
They would need to create new pirate factions to have gallente/amarr and minmatar/caldari faction boats. The existing factions already combine the pros of each faction somewhat.
Angels have the speed, agility and projectile weapons of minmatar with a larger dronebay that is closer in size to a gallente ship.
Sansha combine lasers with shield tanking
Gurista are gallente style droneboats with monster passive shield tanks and missiles.
Blood Raider ships combine lasers and armor tanking of amarr with the extra highslot utility and bonused webs of minmatar ships.
Serpentis ships are like gallente gunships on steroids combined with bonused webs (though a different type of web bonus than you see on minmatar recons)
A minmatar/caldari mix wouldn't make much sense, minmatar already share many similarities with caldari with many of their ships favoring a shield tank and having some viable missile fits with certain ships.
gallente/amarr mix would pretty much resemble existing ships, some amarr ships already have good size drone bays and most gallente ships are already armor tanked. Gallente and amarr are just to similar to each other.
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Cayrenne
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.24 09:32:00 -
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Not to mention this is not the first time more variations of pirate ships have been requested. CCP's answers have always been the same, they have used up all the major pirate factions. If they want to make another lineup of pirate ships, even from one of the existing minor pirates, they will have to make a whole new content to give said pirate faction a dedicated region that people can mission for, spread them out among belts from hisec to nullsec, spawn exploration sites with them inside, and so on. Not to mention the remaining minor factions are not really hybrid between races, Thukker is pretty much 100% Minmatar for example, as does Mordu and Caldari. EoM is probably smaller than all the other minor factions, and therefore if they are to be given a pirate ship line, CCP would have to work the most content up to make them a viable pirate ship-bearing faction. |
Jacob Stov
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Posted - 2011.09.24 09:48:00 -
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Cayrenne wrote:Not to mention this is not the first time more variations of pirate ships have been requested. CCP's answers have always been the same, they have used up all the major pirate factions. If they want to make another lineup of pirate ships, even from one of the existing minor pirates, they will have to make a whole new content to give said pirate faction a dedicated region that people can mission for, spread them out among belts from hisec to nullsec, spawn exploration sites with them inside, and so on. Not to mention the remaining minor factions are not really hybrid between races, Thukker is pretty much 100% Minmatar for example, as does Mordu and Caldari. EoM is probably smaller than all the other minor factions, and therefore if they are to be given a pirate ship line, CCP would have to work the most content up to make them a viable pirate ship-bearing faction.
The Legion ticks all the boxes. Own 0.0 space, mix of Intaki and Caldari. Shield tanked, damage bonused and fast blasterships
are not existing in eve atm.
But, they are Gallente/Caldari unless you contruct some story about Minmatar aid in designing the ships or something...
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