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illford baker
Pilots of Damnation R-I-P
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Posted - 2010.02.24 01:42:00 -
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a while ago, my orca got blown up after a spy took it and self destructed it. this got me thinking, we can password protect our can to keep this from happening, why not our ships? even cars need keys to start. why is it, hundreds of thousands of years in the future, can ANYONE just hop in your ride and do whatever they want with it? why are couple thousand isk cans more secure than our multi million isk ships?
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JDawg1290
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Posted - 2010.02.24 01:43:00 -
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CAUSE THAT WOULD MAKE EVE TOO DAMN SAFE!
seriously, thats the only answer your going to get. There really is no damn reason except CCP is lazy. |

XDSKIRBYKIA
Serenity Engineering and Transport Company Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.02.24 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: JDawg1290 There really is no damn reason except CCP is lazy.
EVE Not Hello Kitty..
CCP dont protect your **** you do.
First rule of EVE.. Trust NOONE.... Applies to corps not just chars :)
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illford baker
Pilots of Damnation R-I-P
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Posted - 2010.02.24 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: XDSKIRBYKIA
Originally by: JDawg1290 There really is no damn reason except CCP is lazy.
EVE Not Hello Kitty..
CCP dont protect your **** you do.
First rule of EVE.. Trust NOONE.... Applies to corps not just chars :)
i do want to protect my ****, but CCP needs to give me the means to do so. its not like i can just slap a masterlock on my ship because its CCPs game!
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.02.24 01:56:00 -
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let me ask you something ... how could a spy access your ship in your hangar?
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illford baker
Pilots of Damnation R-I-P
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Posted - 2010.02.24 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: darius mclever let me ask you something ... how could a spy access your ship in your hangar?
well you see, i live in null sec, inside a pos. and a ship maint array has a limited ammt of space, and the orca is a BIG thing, about as big as a carrier. so, i decided to keep my orca outside of the array but still in the pos shields so that all my fellow corp mates don't clutter the pos shields with tones of ships that wont fit. i figured that one big ship outside in the shields is better than a lot of small ships outside in the shields, makes it easier for us to scan down hostiles when they come in. but, one fateful day, some jackass spy came and messed everything up to compensate for his lack of love from his parents or something. then i wrote a on the forum about how there should be passwords on ships, and then i found $5. true story, all of it.
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Sareth Drangua
Gallente United Systems Navy
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Posted - 2010.02.24 02:10:00 -
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Quote:
i do want to protect my ****, but CCP needs to give me the means to do so. its not like i can just slap a masterlock on my ship because its CCPs game!
now lets follow up with your reply
Originally by: illford baker
Originally by: darius mclever let me ask you something ... how could a spy access your ship in your hangar?
well you see, i live in null sec, inside a pos. and a ship maint array has a limited ammt of space and the orca is a BIG thing, about as big as a carrier. so, i decided to keep my orca outside of the array but still in the pos shields so that all my fellow corp mates don't clutter the pos shields with tones of ships that wont fit. i figured that one big ship outside in the shields is better than a lot of small ships outside in the shields, makes it easier for us to scan down hostiles when they come in. but, one fateful day, some jackass spy came and messed everything up to compensate for his lack of love from his parents or something. then i wrote a on the forum about how there should be passwords on ships, and then i found $5. true story, all of it.
get my point?
tl;dr ccp do provide you with mean of storing your ship with saftey. YOU chose not to use that.
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illford baker
Pilots of Damnation R-I-P
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Posted - 2010.02.24 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Sareth Drangua
edited out for no wall of text
tl;dr ccp do provide you with mean of storing your ship with saftey. YOU chose not to use that.
ok, fine. but i still don't see why our ships CAN'T have have passwords other than lazy ccp, even then the code is already written for cans and can probably be easily modified for ships. give me one good reason why this would be a bad idea.
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Sareth Drangua
Gallente United Systems Navy
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Posted - 2010.02.24 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: illford baker
Originally by: Sareth Drangua
edited out for no wall of text
tl;dr ccp do provide you with mean of storing your ship with saftey. YOU chose not to use that.
ok, fine. but i still don't see why our ships CAN'T have have passwords other than lazy ccp, even then the code is already written for cans and can probably be easily modified for ships. give me one good reason why this would be a bad idea.
because then people cant steal your ships you leave in space
i could leave my erebus floating in a pos and it be safe, eve isnt meant to be safe..
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illford baker
Pilots of Damnation R-I-P
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Posted - 2010.02.24 02:28:00 -
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Edited by: illford baker on 24/02/2010 02:29:07
Originally by: Sareth Drangua
Originally by: illford baker
Originally by: Sareth Drangua
edited out for no wall of text
tl;dr ccp do provide you with mean of storing your ship with saftey. YOU chose not to use that.
ok, fine. but i still don't see why our ships CAN'T have have passwords other than lazy ccp, even then the code is already written for cans and can probably be easily modified for ships. give me one good reason why this would be a bad idea.
because then people cant steal your ships you leave in space
i could leave my erebus floating in a pos and it be safe, eve isnt meant to be safe..
first of all i believe titans are bigger than pos shields so it could still be DESTROYED, only you would not be in it. second of all, it would still be bump-able, but it does add another layer of protection, enough time for me to get online and say kick that sad pathetic spies ass. third, your password can still be leaked if the ship is a corp/alliance asset (or you just have loose lips). its not like that ship will be locked to that particular toon. fourth, if i am remembering game mechanics right.... the password can still be cracked by code breaker, but its still another layer of security that i would like to have.
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Sareth Drangua
Gallente United Systems Navy
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Posted - 2010.02.24 02:33:00 -
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Edited by: Sareth Drangua on 24/02/2010 02:34:05 Titans fit.
There is no need for pass protected ships. use the mecanics in place.
<<<< hello kitty is that way.
or
HTFU.
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.02.24 02:38:00 -
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err ... a large tower can perfectly hold a few titans. (Gets a bit crowded with 10+ but oh well).
also ... where did you get that rumor that you can hack giant secure cans with a code breaker?
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illford baker
Pilots of Damnation R-I-P
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Posted - 2010.02.24 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Sareth Drangua Edited by: Sareth Drangua on 24/02/2010 02:33:15 titans fit in large sheilds
there is no need for pass protected ships. use the mecanics in place.
<<<< hello kitty is that way
or
HTFU.
ok, titans fit in large shields there is a need for password protected ships, if just for the sake of common sense (see first post). hello kitty (if there is such a game) is not that way, nor do i have any interest in it. and STFU get out of my thread you piece of dirt, the mindless crap you spew out is not even worth the electrons it takes to power the LEDs on my monitor. KKTHXBYE.
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illford baker
Pilots of Damnation R-I-P
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Posted - 2010.02.24 02:49:00 -
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Originally by: darius mclever
also ... where did you get that rumor that you can hack giant secure cans with a code breaker?
i dunno, an idiot? sounded believable. didn't look it up any further because it didn't interest me.
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XDSKIRBYKIA
Serenity Engineering and Transport Company Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.02.24 05:14:00 -
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Edited by: XDSKIRBYKIA on 24/02/2010 05:15:09
Originally by: illford baker
i dunno, an idiot? sounded believable. didn't look it up any further because it didn't interest me.
Who is the idiot ???
The one that told you??? Or you for listening ???
Once again.
Eve Not Hello Kitty.
EVE is about choices, You had the choice to protect your ****.... YOU did not.
There is no need for a password on ships becuase you can already protect your **** if you really want to.
In addition to that your idea would basicly STOP all ship theft and only leave you with the option of blowing it up.... Waste not want not.. :)
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Junkie Babe
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Posted - 2010.02.24 12:02:00 -
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I don't see why not but I don't think it would make any difference, all it would mean potential thieves would have to carry codebreakers eventually they'd crack the code and it would be stolen or failing that still be bumped and destroyed as others have pointed out.
Wouldn't a better idea to get a second array or even a bigger one so you can store more ships safely, not that I know much about o.o space or POS's it's something I've yet to experiance in EVE.
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mchief117
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Posted - 2010.02.24 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Junkie Babe I don't see why not but I don't think it would make any difference, all it would mean potential thieves would have to carry codebreakers eventually they'd crack the code and it would be stolen or failing that still be bumped and destroyed as others have pointed out.
Wouldn't a better idea to get a second array or even a bigger one so you can store more ships safely, not that I know much about o.o space or POS's it's something I've yet to experiance in EVE.
you can get a bigger array that is cappible of holding capital sized ships. but it requires you to be the sov holder, not may plp can do that in low sec unless there part of a mega corp and by then they would usualy use a station for ships
onto the op yes ships should be lockable, but they should allso be hackable to , i mean its not like if i lock my car that some guy wont break the window and jury the ignition while im gone. though it is a lot harder when im shooting missiles at him
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XDSKIRBYKIA
Serenity Engineering and Transport Company Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.02.25 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Junkie Babe I don't see why not but I don't think it would make any difference, all it would mean potential thieves would have to carry codebreakers eventually they'd crack the code and it would be stolen or failing that still be bumped and destroyed as others have pointed out.
lol.
As already mentioned in this thread. CodeBreakers dont work like that they are for Special Locked cans in exploration sites.
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True American
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Posted - 2010.02.25 01:02:00 -
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Edited by: True American on 25/02/2010 01:04:46 dock your ships if you cant because your in null sec and your alliance
1. doesn't have a station of there own
2. doesn't have coalition buddy's that will let you use their station
3. cant find a npc station
here is a few ideas don't bring the ships to null sec log off in the most expensive ship you do have in null sec find a new corp/alliance that does have a station or just leave null sec altogether
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.02.25 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Sareth Drangua tl;dr ccp do provide you with mean of storing your ship with saftey. YOU chose not to use that.
To be fair, the OP did say "The ship maintenance array does not have enough room". When you're working from a POS in Nullsec, storage space is always at a premium.
I would say passwording a ship is a viable option but only within a POS shield. If the shield dies due to lack of fuel or an attack on the POS, all ships inside it lose their password protection and are open season.
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