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OTo Moto Amarr CNexus The Ascendent Dominion	Posted - 2010.02.25 19:27:00 - [1] Superfresh news guys, AAA fleet is attacking Y-MPWL and G-5EN2, 300 man fleet in ymp taking down the station right now, 40+capitals on the scene. G-5 is getting a similar treatment. Waiting for CVA response....
RLCHANCE Amarr Nova Productions War and Pestilence	Posted - 2010.02.25 19:30:00 - [2] o0 damn first page 1
Kiyirari Minmatar All Star Shipyards	Posted - 2010.02.25 19:49:00 - [3] Edited by: Kiyirari on 25/02/2010 19:54:07 Yawns in anticipation of a 20 page thread naught... Will CVA ever sort it out May be they where caught of guard with Back Door Bandit spear heading the rear assualt Revenge is my god and my guns are her angels
BeanBagKing Gallente Ch3mic4l Warfare Destined For Glory	Posted - 2010.02.25 19:55:00 - [4] I feel the need to post in the first page of what will become a threadnaught.... not sure why.
Night Epoch Caldari Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2010.02.25 19:58:00 - [5] Edited by: Night Epoch on 25/02/2010 19:58:21 I-RED stands with its friends in Providence, even when the chips are down. And yes, we're very shortstacked right now. Confirming that SBUs are deployed in both systems.
Xennith Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.25 20:00:00 - [6] I like I-RED, its a pity you guys picked the wrong side.
Night Epoch Caldari Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2010.02.25 20:06:00 - [7] Edited by: Night Epoch on 25/02/2010 20:06:18 Originally by: Xennith I like I-RED, its a pity you guys picked the wrong side. I respect tons of U'K pilots too m8. Just because we're enemies doesn't mean there's no <3. See you in Prov for some more GFs. Unfortunately, as you know, we're rather tiny and so can't do much against -A-'s supercapital blob. But we'll fight all we can. I'll be in a defense fleet as soon as I'm out of work. Primary me!
Ace Frehley Minmatar Big Shadows Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.25 20:08:00 - [8] to AAA You will not advance a single inch into Providence. Your failure will be public, and painful. Provibloc await your hilarious hordes of failure. That is all. oh wait, Phreeze is not involved and I like AAA
Sarah Norbulk Gallente Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.02.25 20:13:00 - [9] Posting on page 1 of a CVA is dieing thread.
General Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.25 20:19:00 - [10] They were warned what would happen if they sided with Goons. Tough luck, CVA. Twitter:@genrlwindypops

Mogren Gallente Divine Retribution Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.25 20:25:00 - [11] Battlecruiser operational.
Nur AlHuda Amarr Callide Vulpis	Posted - 2010.02.25 20:30:00 - [12] Originally by: General Windypops They were warned what would happen if they sided with Goons. Tough luck, CVA. CVA never sided with goons as proven on numerous alternatives forums. Its just bad written Ushra propaganda. Couse if that would be true there would be tons of leaked Holders intel on movements and cooordinations from those times.
Agent Unknown Caldari Night Theifs Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2010.02.25 20:33:00 - [13] See you on teh battlefield, both 0.0 and high-sec (for U'K anyway) . By the way, this is my signature. TeamSpeak For EVE - API-controlled TeamSpeak 3 Access!
General Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.25 20:34:00 - [14] Originally by: Nur AlHuda Originally by: General Windypops They were warned what would happen if they sided with Goons. Tough luck, CVA. CVA never sided with goons as proven on numerous alternatives forums. Its just bad written Ushra propaganda. Couse if that would be true there would be tons of leaked Holders intel on movements and cooordinations from those times. Oh ok, setting each other + and joining up to fight the same enemy at the same time isn't 'siding with' someone.... Twitter:@genrlwindypops
Atomkraft Caldari Paladin Order Tread Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.25 20:35:00 - [15] Valkyrie, prepared. You're being very naughty, AAA.
Kiyirari Minmatar All Star Shipyards	Posted - 2010.02.25 20:37:00 - [16] Once the ashes of CVA have been swept aside & the spoils of war divide who will own their space U.K or AAA Once all is taken, i would like to be the first person to urinate on the alter of their holiest most sacred temple in the name of free people. i'd pay lots of isk for this Revenge is my god and my guns are her angels
Goberth Ludwig Caldari eXceed Inc. Tread Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.25 20:40:00 - [17] Originally by: Mogren Battlecruiser operational. good poast also the emporer will provail >:0 - Gob
Unity Love Caldari Dissonance Corp Primary.	Posted - 2010.02.25 20:45:00 - [18] i just wasted 10mins trying to think of something funny that CVA could be an acronym for but i failed :*( bye provi!
Hanabi Kazan Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO	Posted - 2010.02.25 20:56:00 - [19] Originally by: General Windypops They were warned what would happen if they sided with Goons. Tough luck, CVA. you know, when we were getting pounded in delve by all sides, after PL died and with the NC tied down, there was a thread on our forums about possibly allying with CVA. and then we remembered they're role players. now i dont think youre dumb enough to actually believe what you posted here, but the fact that it is so obviously wrong and stupid makes your post have the opposite effect as intended. or if you wish to keep pushing this ******ed suggestion, were flattered you started an invasion on account of us
General Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.25 21:09:00 - [20] Edited by: General Windypops on 25/02/2010 21:11:02 Originally by: Hanabi Kazan there was a thread on our forums about possibly allying with CVA. and then we remembered they're role players. Haha 'pounded in delve' - you surrendered within 45 minutes of IT arriving in your space. The thing that really makes me chuckle is that these lol RPers are putting up 10x the fight that you did when you surrendered . Twitter:@genrlwindypops

Fernous Gallente Section Eight LLC Omega Vector	Posted - 2010.02.25 21:21:00 - [21] Better fortify those rear defenses Postan in Epic Thread
Exie Gallente Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.25 21:58:00 - [22] Burn Provi, Burn!! E... We be Jammin'
Daedhead Caldari GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO	Posted - 2010.02.25 22:08:00 - [23] Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 25/02/2010 21:11:02 Originally by: Hanabi Kazan there was a thread on our forums about possibly allying with CVA. and then we remembered they're role players. Haha 'pounded in delve' - you surrendered within 45 minutes of IT arriving in your space. The thing that really makes me chuckle is that these lol RPers are putting up 10x the fight that you did when you surrendered . Awesome, another thread derailed. I love all of the posting support we get on caod, it's really what keeps us going. Your support is greatly appreciated.
General Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.25 22:16:00 - [24] Originally by: Daedhead I love all of the posting support we get on caod, it's really what keeps us going. Your support is greatly appreciated. So it's not all that end game content in Syndicate that lights your candle? Twitter:@genrlwindypops
Eumenides Caldari Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.25 22:21:00 - [25] Edited by: Eumenides on 25/02/2010 22:21:24 I think it is sad so manny people are just posting to get on the first page ... yeah i made it ! was afraid to get on page 2
Hanabi Kazan Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO	Posted - 2010.02.25 22:29:00 - [26] Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 25/02/2010 21:11:02 Originally by: Hanabi Kazan there was a thread on our forums about possibly allying with CVA. and then we remembered they're role players. Haha 'pounded in delve' - you surrendered within 45 minutes of IT arriving in your space. The thing that really makes me chuckle is that these lol RPers are putting up 10x the fight that you did when you surrendered . this one is much better. of course you already know that i meant the weeks of r64 fights and 49- and whatever, but you crafted your post so any response is correcting this fact or defending your attacks directly. its an effective way to deflect any argument in my post you dont want to have. selective quoting to re-frame the debate helps too. since the fact that goonswarm was defending from IT and -A- for a few weeks before our collapse isnt widely known, it is way more believable than goons and CVA being allies so you can actually persist that argument without looking dumb. anyway, sorry to interrupt this lovely thread
Snot Shot Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.25 22:30:00 - [27] Originally by: Hanabi Kazan you know, when we were getting pounded in delve by all sides, after PL died and with the NC tied down, we called CVA and told them that if they took the -A- pressure off us we would help them whenever they needed help....we then laughed about it when they believed us and attacked -A-.... Just another Alliance hung out to die after backing up GoonSwarm... Why donÆt you goonies do something useful for once and come help those that tried to help you? Just sad I tell yahà. Just Sayin.... Dr. Shot BAM!! HEAD SHOT!!!
CG Oglethorpe Minmatar Universal Army Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.25 22:31:00 - [28] My sources inside CVA tell me that CVA is aware of the situation and they are 'looking into it'.
Naughty Spanker Minmatar Boob Heads Vivisection.	Posted - 2010.02.25 22:33:00 - [29] Windy windy, times change, but you're still one of the most retarded people in this forum. At times I wonder how can someone as stupid as you even turn off the computer, nevermind even actually logging in or be able to use a keyboard. When are you going to get a life and stop humiliating our braincells with your terrible, rage filled, and mega serious business posting? Maybe that day you will stop being a virgin too.
Rakor Vin Gallente Gravis Unbound Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2010.02.25 22:36:00 - [30] please be first page.

dastommy79 Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.25 22:55:00 - [31] I might switch sides for this war. AMARR VICTOR!! and snypa Former SmashKill Coaliton Leader please stop banning me
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.25 23:18:00 - [32] Some people are worried that if CVA get beaten to empire, it will be the end of NRDS in Providence and healthy roaming grounds. It won't be. ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
General Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.25 23:38:00 - [33] Edited by: General Windypops on 25/02/2010 23:40:34 Originally by: Naughty Spanker Windy windy, times change, but you're still one of the most retarded people in this forum. At times I wonder how can someone as stupid as you even turn off the computer, nevermind even actually logging in or be able to use a keyboard. Wait a sec, you can actually turn these things OFF??? BTW you have a mighty purdy mouth. Twitter:@genrlwindypops
General Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.25 23:40:00 - [34] Originally by: Hanabi Kazan Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 25/02/2010 21:11:02 Originally by: Hanabi Kazan there was a thread on our forums about possibly allying with CVA. and then we remembered they're role players. Haha 'pounded in delve' - you surrendered within 45 minutes of IT arriving in your space. The thing that really makes me chuckle is that these lol RPers are putting up 10x the fight that you did when you surrendered . this one is much better. of course you already know that i meant the weeks of r64 fights and 49- and whatever, but you crafted your post so any response is correcting this fact or defending your attacks directly. its an effective way to deflect any argument in my post you dont want to have. selective quoting to re-frame the debate helps too. since the fact that goonswarm was defending from IT and -A- for a few weeks before our collapse isnt widely known, it is way more believable than goons and CVA being allies so you can actually persist that argument without looking dumb. anyway, sorry to interrupt this lovely thread Whoah, you put a lot more thought into my posts than I do. Twitter:@genrlwindypops
Goberth Ludwig Caldari eXceed Inc. Tread Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.25 23:47:00 - [35] windy after a good streak of chillposting you are sliding back into the rageposting sandpit remember who lives there (butters) and the many reason you left it we believe in you windy, you are strong, you can resist the withdrawal - STAY CLEAN WINDY my most sincere regards, - Gob
General Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 00:03:00 - [36] My problem is that I'm like any other prize fighter. When you live on the edge and ride at the top of your game you rely to a certain extent on having a strong opponent to keep you sharp. Goons folded in seconds and the only ones in their leadership who knew who to spar don't even log on. PL ran like school girls and even lol-RPers like U'K are kicking their enemies ass all over the place. I just don't have anything to be angry about any more :( I had high hopes that Maru Kage or whatever they're called would rise up to achieve greatness, but I was inexplicably wrong about that. Twitter:@genrlwindypops
XavierVE Gallente Reasonable People	Posted - 2010.02.26 00:05:00 - [37] Edited by: XavierVE on 26/02/2010 00:05:25 Quote: Some people are worried that if CVA get beaten to empire, it will be the end of NRDS in Providence and healthy roaming grounds If you think AAA will let you install a real NRDS in Providence, then you're on something.
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 00:09:00 - [38] Originally by: XavierVE Edited by: XavierVE on 26/02/2010 00:05:25 Quote: Some people are worried that if CVA get beaten to empire, it will be the end of NRDS in Providence and healthy roaming grounds If you think AAA will let you install a real NRDS in Providence, then you're on something. AAA don't tell us how to manage our ROE. Although, I'm sure they would love it if we managed NRDS in providence - it's not like they would have to follow it. ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
dastommy79 Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.26 00:13:00 - [39] Windy, gobs should be an insperation to you and you should strive to be more like him. To bitter dog; if we capture all their base, where will i farm noobs? Former SmashKill Coaliton Leader please stop banning me
Sa'Shena Amarr Nomad LLP Wayfarer Stellar Initiative	Posted - 2010.02.26 00:15:00 - [40] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: XavierVE Edited by: XavierVE on 26/02/2010 00:05:25 Quote: Some people are worried that if CVA get beaten to empire, it will be the end of NRDS in Providence and healthy roaming grounds If you think AAA will let you install a real NRDS in Providence, then you're on something. AAA don't tell us how to manage our ROE. Although, I'm sure they would love it if we managed NRDS in providence - it's not like they would have to follow it. This doesn't make any sense, since if AAA, one of the largest fleet contributors in the region doesn't want to follow NRDS but you superficially have NRDS, then what stops your allies from just running roughshod over everyone in your space? You don't have any means of controlling blues who engage in your space, so its still going to be NBSI no matter what U'K's stance is on the matter since the Neuts won't care that its AAA shooting them and not U'K, and your Blues will shoot whoever they want regardless.

XavierVE Gallente Reasonable People	Posted - 2010.02.26 00:21:00 - [41] Originally by: Butter Dog AAA don't tell us how to manage our ROE. Although, I'm sure they would love it if we managed NRDS in providence - it's not like they would have to follow it. You realize that being the pet of an alliance and saying that you have NRDS in your space when your master doesn't follow it... isn't really NRDS, right? Why am I even asking that? Of course you do. "Our space is NRDS! Well, of course until the guys that allowed us to have this space come and kill you."
Sa'Shena Amarr Nomad LLP Wayfarer Stellar Initiative	Posted - 2010.02.26 00:23:00 - [42] Originally by: XavierVE Originally by: Butter Dog AAA don't tell us how to manage our ROE. Although, I'm sure they would love it if we managed NRDS in providence - it's not like they would have to follow it. You realize that being the pet of an alliance and saying that you have NRDS in your space when your master doesn't follow it... isn't really NRDS, right? Why am I even asking that? Of course you do. "Our space is NRDS! Well, of course until the guys that allowed us to have this space come and kill you." I beat you to it man.
AeonthePiglet Gallente X-PERTS Black Legion.	Posted - 2010.02.26 00:31:00 - [43] Originally by: Unity Love i just wasted 10mins trying to think of something funny that CVA could be an acronym for but i failed :( bye provi! "*** Ventilators Anonymous"
D3rg3 Minmatar Alpann Siad Anam Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.26 00:39:00 - [44] Originally by: XavierVE You realize that being the pet of an alliance and saying that you have NRDS in your space when your master doesn't follow it... isn't really NRDS, right? except U'K are not pets of .-A-. but then, you knew that and are probably a horribad CVA loyalist trolling for tears.
Faekurias Caldari Raptus Regalitor Black Legion.	Posted - 2010.02.26 00:40:00 - [45] someone mention *****?
Iwannah Spankjoo Amarr Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 01:08:00 - [46] Edited by: Iwannah Spankjoo on 26/02/2010 01:08:54 Edited by: Iwannah Spankjoo on 26/02/2010 01:08:11 At one point there were more reds reported than UK/-a- had, but since our FCs are direct descendants of William Wallace we went for it. Freedom and all that stuff. However, no kills to be had as they warped off to station and docked. They had grid loaded and were waiting for us, I guess they didn't learn anything in D-G after all. At least we had some pewpew in the other system as there was Paxton & Co. gang, who decided to warp to out bridge cyno. That was kind of a mess for them as they were in BC etc crap, plus they had to load grid. Kills were something as silly as 100 kills to one lost dictor. Genos stopped by checking out what the sov wars are all about, only to lose 2 Machs. Night climaxed to a conga at the Y-M station: http://derfel.org/eve/ExeFile%202010-02-26%2002-27-45-79.jpg
Tarac Nor Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 01:29:00 - [47] God damn it, ive miss the fight because of work
pa Droog Minmatar Zion's Knights	Posted - 2010.02.26 01:32:00 - [48] Edited by: pa Droog on 26/02/2010 01:35:47 Originally by: Butter Dog Some people are worried that if CVA get beaten to empire, it will be the end of NRDS in Providence and healthy roaming grounds. It won't be. Fox guarding the hen-house Does not work... and cva, Playing possum is not going to work eather...
Sapphrine Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 01:41:00 - [49] its like i barely have to post at all. Anything i need to say gets covered off by someone that isn't a ******.
Radgette Minmatar Guardian Heroes Inc. Gunmen of the Apocalypse	Posted - 2010.02.26 02:02:00 - [50] Originally by: Iwannah Spankjoo Edited by: Iwannah Spankjoo on 26/02/2010 01:08:54 Edited by: Iwannah Spankjoo on 26/02/2010 01:08:11 At one point there were more reds reported than UK/-a- had, but since our FCs are direct descendants of William Wallace we went for it. Freedom and all that stuff. http://derfel.org/eve/ExeFile%202010-02-26%2002-27-45-79.jpg as a scotsman and a minmatar i approve of this msg kill em all :P

moranno Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.26 05:59:00 - [51] Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 25/02/2010 21:11:02 Originally by: Hanabi Kazan there was a thread on our forums about possibly allying with CVA. and then we remembered they're role players. Haha 'pounded in delve' - you surrendered within 45 minutes of IT arriving in your space. The thing that really makes me chuckle is that these lol RPers are putting up 10x the fight that you did when you surrendered . ^^^^+10 And very very true.
Airborne Ninja Minmatar GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO	Posted - 2010.02.26 06:16:00 - [52] We are a cowardly people.
MyHonIa Gallente Assisted Genocide	Posted - 2010.02.26 08:46:00 - [53] Originally by: Hanabi Kazan this one is much better. of course you already know that i meant the weeks of r64 fights and 49- and whatever, but you crafted your post so any response is correcting this fact or defending your attacks directly. its an effective way to deflect any argument in my post you dont want to have. selective quoting to re-frame the debate helps too. since the fact that goonswarm was defending from IT and -A- for a few weeks before our collapse isnt widely known, it is way more believable than goons and CVA being allies so you can actually persist that argument without looking dumb. anyway, sorry to interrupt this lovely thread 49- = querious r64s = aridia guess you need geography lessons? not disputing that some fighting was going on in delve among other places, but a full scale vasion only happened after the sov dropped, at which point you quite literally played the tcf card (crazy frenchmen)
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 09:01:00 - [54] Originally by: dastommy79 To bitter dog; if we capture all their base, where will i farm noobs? Well, if you cast your mind back a few years, CVA and UK kind of divided Providence up between them and both ran NRDS. Noobs were welcomed in both areas, provided they didn't take sides in the lolRP wars. So it depends how Providence is carved up - but imo it should remain NRDS and welcoming of new players. I wouldn't like to see providence being held by major powers or NBSI alliances, that would ruin it for sure. ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 09:08:00 - [55] Originally by: Sa'Shena This doesn't make any sense, since if AAA, one of the largest fleet contributors in the region doesn't want to follow NRDS but you superficially have NRDS, then what stops your allies from just running roughshod over everyone in your space? lolz... how is this any different to Providence under CVA? Do AAA stop roaming it to respect their NRDS ideals? Of course not. The truth is it wouldn't be any different, except UK aren't as anally retentive as CVA and won't try to force everyone to follow our standings list. Nor would we go on suicidal imperial crusades into the space of powerful alliances Also I'm pretty sure we don't want to hold nearly as much space as CVA do, which means more space for neutrals and young alliances looking for their first peice of 0.0 ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
128th ABC123 Caldari Eve Liberation Force OWN Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.26 09:22:00 - [56] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: dastommy79 To bitter dog; if we capture all their base, where will i farm noobs? Well, if you cast your mind back a few years, CVA and UK kind of divided Providence up between them and both ran NRDS. Noobs were welcomed in both areas, provided they didn't take sides in the lolRP wars. So it depends how Providence is carved up - but imo it should remain NRDS and welcoming of new players. I wouldn't like to see providence being held by major powers or NBSI alliances, that would ruin it for sure. Yo Butter, ima going to let you pass, but why the **** would you tag along with -A- if you are interested in keeping provi NRDS?
OTo Moto Amarr CNexus The Ascendent Dominion	Posted - 2010.02.26 09:36:00 - [57] Station in y-mp is reinforced 1st time utill 28.2 23h EVE time. Gates are lightly camped, but you could squezz through. CVA defenses failed yesterday, obviously. CVA did kill one TBU but it got replaced.
Mya ElleTerego Amarr The Hull Miners Union Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2010.02.26 09:50:00 - [58] 100 mil says ushra khan failsauces trying to babysit 30 stations and all of provi. Sorry butter, but I just dont see it happening. I am going to go out on a limb and forecast a derelict region full of ninja ratters that looks strikingly like stain region, but with crappier rats.. But I wish you guys luck anyways. Alliance Recruit thread Alliance Homepage/Killboard
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 10:09:00 - [59] Originally by: 128th ABC123 Yo Butter, ima going to let you pass, but why the **** would you tag along with -A- if you are interested in keeping provi NRDS? Well, UK are an NRDS alliance. Always have been. We currently run NBSI in Providence only because CVA's business model relies on neutrals using their stations to generate ISK. If CVA were pushed out, we'd have no need to continue this exception to the NRDS ideals we have. As for AAA's ROE - we don't tell people how to manage their own standings. And AAA are kind of shooting CVA, so it would be pretty silly of us not to join in the fight against our mortal RP enemy, right? ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
Adeptus mecanicus Caldari The Flaming Sideburn's Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels	Posted - 2010.02.26 10:15:00 - [60] carve up providence into pieces and have minor alliances take the stations, it will be as dominion was ment and it will be a checkboard map with ppl fighting over space/grudges/RP agenda/+++. if UK and -A- are smart they sell station systems to said alliances and make a profit and get targets and soap oprah next door Recruitment

Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 10:16:00 - [61] Originally by: Mya ElleTerego 100 mil says ushra khan failsauces trying to babysit 30 stations and all of provi. Sorry butter, but I just dont see it happening. I am going to go out on a limb and forecast a derelict region full of ninja ratters that looks strikingly like stain region, but with crappier rats.. But I wish you guys luck anyways. hehe, you'd be right about us not wanting 30 stations, in fact I'm 90% sure we don't want any more than we have, and we wouldn't run Providence in the same way CVA does. Especially not in the post-Dominion era, cos it would just be an annoying burden. There are plenty of people out there though, who would be happy to live in Providence, given a constellation or station of their own... and I'd be very suprised if some of the existing holders didn't change sides (despite public denials from some of them, I know there is talk behind the scenes and some are more eager to jump ship than others). And as UK have run NRDS in Providence before quite succesfully, doing it again doesn't seem like a huge stretch of the imagination to me... of course it would also be the end of us, who knows :p ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
jm24 Minmatar GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO	Posted - 2010.02.26 10:30:00 - [62] Posting in a thread about the dominion of SOLODRAKBANSO[LODRA]. Refer all queries for recruitment to me (jm24), mr adebisi, or Stabbington III. We offer full unrestricted access to 0.0, no silly price per character per month fee, fleet pvp/roaming good fights, absolutely zero required ops. Use referral code jm24 when convoing.
Xyla Vulchanus Amarr Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 10:57:00 - [63] Originally by: Adeptus mecanicus if UK and -A- are smart they sell station systems to said alliances and make a profit and get targets and soap oprah next door Thanks for the image of Oprah, all soaped up! I wonder if CVA will put up a fight for its space when all they have left is R3-K7K? Seriously need a decent FC first though I suppose. We Come For Our People (and your systems)
Jacabon Mere Caldari Quantum Horizons Skynet Confederation	Posted - 2010.02.26 11:21:00 - [64] Originally by: Butter Dog The truth is it wouldn't be any different, except UK aren't as anally retentive as CVA and won't try to force everyone to follow our standings list. Nor would we go on suicidal imperial crusades into the space of powerful alliances so your offering nrds without the protection. sounds ideal for a small upcoming alliance . your saying that it won't be any different except that it will be majorly different. seems to be that prov is what it is because of the carebears (to shoot at, to make money from, and to supply stuff) if your offering a place good for roams and shootings, their won't be any carebears. Originally by: Butter Dog Also I'm pretty sure we don't want to hold nearly as much space as CVA do, which means more space for neutrals and young alliances looking for their first peice of 0.0 are you just going to leave it vacent for people ot take at will? or will you sell it? because people don't need to buy/rent a staiton system for fights and prov with that many people and no sort of protection makes it pretty poor for anything other than pvpers. what i'm kind of getting at is that it is going to change majorly no matter what way you try spin it. (i don't live in prov with no intention of moving there) but the way you say it makes it look like bad propaganda in hopes that you will still have targets to shoot. ----------------------- Quantum Horizons is recruiting Aussies/players active around DT. Join "QH Public" for a chat and more info. Website
Malcanis Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.02.26 11:28:00 - [65] Originally by: Jacabon Mere Originally by: Butter Dog The truth is it wouldn't be any different, except UK aren't as anally retentive as CVA and won't try to force everyone to follow our standings list. Nor would we go on suicidal imperial crusades into the space of powerful alliances so your offering nrds without the protection. sounds ideal for a small upcoming alliance So just giving people space isn't enough now? Gotta hold their hands too?
Ontaku Oroa Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 11:30:00 - [66] As far as I know, CVA didn't and still doesn't offer the "umbrella" deal to their Holders either. Joint ops otherwise known as "proviblob" were the norm, where each Holder alliance was expected to be able to take care of itself and deploy a "levy" of ships for CVA-organized ops. Expecting someone to offer you your personal bodyguard service in space is not renting, you got mercenaries for that. Renting is paying for the right to occupy space you would otherwise be kicked out from or would have no chance of taking sovereignity of in the first place. You can also have a mutual protection agreements, but expecting one alliance to duke it out and the other to 'bear all the time is not very realistic in that context.
Doctor Ungabungas Caldari GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO	Posted - 2010.02.26 11:36:00 - [67] Yes and no. Do you think industrial corps (ie: the major demographic that rents space) are more inclined to rent space in an area with constant or one in a peaceful corner of the universe where they can mine and rat in peace. Active PvP corps that want to defend their space generally don't rent space as they can attach themselves to a larger alliance without too many problems. (IT Alliance for instance)
Ontaku Oroa Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 11:53:00 - [68] Edited by: Ontaku Oroa on 26/02/2010 11:54:26 Well you are talking about corporations, I'm talking about alliances. Corporations have their place, be they PvP or 'bear centric. A smart alliance will always have a few industrial heavy corps doing the lubricating of the wheels of war in the background. And I doubt there are many corporations out there which can fork out the kind of cash you need to rent a system and maintain it. But an alliance is a different matter. Its much more loosely tied to the "big dog" alliance than a corporation would be, that's one. And two, even the smallest sov holding alliances usually occupy a lot more space than a single corp would ever be capable of. Which means more space to defend. And when you ask people to lose their ships defending guys who are belt ratting or plexing without a care in the world, tensions start to mount. I guess the only way an umbrella deal could be made if the 'bear alliance committed to support their protectors with the same sort of services and benefits an industrial corp brings to a PvP alliance. But if you think of how hard such a deal would be to pull off... nah. You want space, be prepared to defend it. Works best.
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 12:33:00 - [69] Who said anything about rent? For an NRDS providence to work, people need to feel it is 'their' space and something worth holding onto - rent won't achieve that. Then there really would be a an arguement for us to provide protection and hand-holding against ebil roamers. ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
zoolkhan Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 13:08:00 - [70] Originally by: Night Epoch we don't abandon our friends when the sky turns dark recruiting -forum

Ontaku Oroa Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 14:07:00 - [71] Originally by: Butter Dog Who said anything about rent? There are more ways than one to pay rent. CVA Holders are renters, whether they believe it or not. They may pay rent with obedience, with ships, or with ISK/materials... if they don't they are punished. In the end, if Providence is ever to have a NRDS status again, all of the local residents will have to enforce said policy themselves, not relying on U'K or anyone else to police their space for them. In fact I don't remember U'K ever policing anything outside our own space. Mutual protection, that works. But one side bearing all the burden of keeping space secure while the other is ratting 24/7? I don't know of a single example of such a relationship in Eve. And also a reminder to people who seem to expect certain stuff from U'K - the overarching goal of U'K remains, as always, expulsion and destruction of slavers from Providence and beyond. Not making everyone feel nice cuddly warm inside.
Mendolus Gallente Aurelius Federation Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.02.26 15:34:00 - [72] Originally by: Jacabon Mere what i'm kind of getting at is that it is going to change majorly no matter what way you try spin it. (i don't live in prov with no intention of moving there) but the way you say it makes it look like bad propaganda in hopes that you will still have targets to shoot. Here's what is gonna happen, all these power blocs with more than a few thousand people to wield like a hammer, are going to abuse the lag mechanic until one of them is tired of constantly losing space to a broken mechanic, and they're going to go mobile. What you will see is that the most advantageous way in the future for a large power bloc to play, is to not actually hold space at all, but simply take it, one region at a time, and then abandon that region after they've forced fire sales in every outpost and conquered a new region. The logistics wing of the power bloc will take those assets, scoop them up, and resell them in other markets, to fund the campaign. What else could more advantageous in a system where it does not matter if you have two hundred or five thousand capital pilots, you are not going to be able to defend your own space against even just 500 pilots loitering around in a single system lagging the node out beyond repair. So why bother to defend? What is to stop a power bloc from doing this? The only thing is if CCP fixes the lag they introduced in Dominion, and they have had almost four months now so far, how long is it going to take them? Too long for 0.0 to prevent it from becoming just another low sec mechanic, where the risk versus reward does not make it worth the dog sh you stepped in this morning on the way to work. All these people who think they're paving the way for their own success by driving the competition out are merely signing their own warrants. There will not be snot for them to do when no one gives a sh to come anywhere near their regions, or remain in their alliances anymore because there's nothing to do but sit and wait for someone to take it from them in a way they cannot possibly prevent. The major power blocs need to read the writing on the wall and come up with some sort of accord agreement while CCP takes their sweet a time fixing the lag problem. Something like an honor system, X hostile ships are met with X friendly ships, so that the game actually f*ing matters in 0.0 anymore. Unless people like being able to just toss 500x pilots in a system and wait a few days and not actually have to play the game itself to take space. If you ask me, that's a waste of $15/mo. {...and they will respect a line drawn in the sand more than forgiveness}

CCP Shadow Caldari C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.26 15:49:00 - [73] Thread cleaned up a bit. Don't worry though, still plenty of epeen remaining.

Areo Hotah Minmatar Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2010.02.26 16:01:00 - [74] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: dastommy79 To bitter dog; if we capture all their base, where will i farm noobs? Well, if you cast your mind back a few years, CVA and UK kind of divided Providence up between them and both ran NRDS. Noobs were welcomed in both areas, provided they didn't take sides in the lolRP wars. Paxton was neutral, until UK started to shoot them. "If you're not with us, you're most likely a spy and against us."
Wotlankor Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 16:02:00 - [75] Providence has declared that we will be bored to death...
Exie Gallente Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 16:16:00 - [76] Originally by: Mendolus ... Regurgitated Propaganda ... Yes, no one can defend against lag, no options exist to ensure you have the grid loaded, and the attacking enemy does not. Run and hide in a hole is the only defense. So many stations, we'll bore em out of fighting!! E... We be Jammin'
Mendolus Gallente Aurelius Federation Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.02.26 16:27:00 - [77] Originally by: Exie Originally by: Mendolus ... Regurgitated Propaganda ... Yes, no one can defend against lag, no options exist to ensure you have the grid loaded, and the attacking enemy does not. Run and hide in a hole is the only defense. So many stations, we'll bore em out of fighting!! I'm sure that's what new pirates convinced themselves of in the summer of '08 when they decided bounties were obsolete and it was more fun to just shoot anything that moved. Twelve months later... and low security space was like a ghost town (as far as carebears and targets to shoot are concerned). Surprise. {...and they will respect a line drawn in the sand more than forgiveness}
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 16:27:00 - [78] Originally by: Areo Hotah Paxton was neutral, until UK started to shoot them. "If you're not with us, you're most likely a spy and against us." You were CVA friends, and anything but neutral. Seems you don't know your own alliances history. ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
Areo Hotah Minmatar Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2010.02.26 16:34:00 - [79] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Areo Hotah Paxton was neutral, until UK started to shoot them. "If you're not with us, you're most likely a spy and against us." You were CVA friends, and anything but neutral. Seems you don't know your own alliances history. Friends, but neutral in the conflict between CVA and UK. And all you did was drive us even further to the CVA side.
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 16:36:00 - [80] Edited by: Butter Dog on 26/02/2010 16:37:06 Originally by: Areo Hotah Friends, but neutral in the conflict between CVA and UK. And all you did was drive us even further to the CVA side. You picked your side by supporting CVA when UK were driven out of Providence the first time around. And let's be clear - your pilots were the ones following CVA orders to set UK red and shoot at us. We don't hold a grudge though, and neither should you ;) ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc

Sapphrine Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 16:49:00 - [81] Originally by: Mendolus Originally by: Jacabon Mere what i'm kind of getting at is that it is going to change majorly no matter what way you try spin it. (i don't live in prov with no intention of moving there) but the way you say it makes it look like bad propaganda in hopes that you will still have targets to shoot. Here's what is gonna happen, (Epic bitterness for 3 or 4 paragraphs), then i'll quit fixed your post.
Faekurias Caldari Raptus Regalitor Black Legion.	Posted - 2010.02.26 17:29:00 - [82] Originally by: General Windypops My problem is that I'm like any other prize fighter. When you live on the edge and ride at the top of your game you rely to a certain extent on having a strong opponent to keep you sharp. Goons folded in seconds and the only ones in their leadership who knew who to spar don't even log on. PL ran like school girls and even lol-RPers like U'K are kicking their enemies ass all over the place. I just don't have anything to be angry about any more :( I had high hopes that Maru Kage or whatever they're called would rise up to achieve greatness, but I was inexplicably wrong about that. 1. I will challenge you windy, do not fret. You shall have your Strong Opponent. It begins: 2. Yo momas fat (also you is fat) 3: so's your face/genitals Have at thee
Tagami Wasp Caldari Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 18:15:00 - [83] Well, it is sad that Proviblob pets need at least 3:1 to engage. I've noticed that after we grew to 1K+ and got the support of .-A-. (awesome fighting machine), only a few of those alliances in Providence bring the fight. Aralis gave the order to bore us out. Really? We have been fighting against CVA for the last 5 years now? Does he really think we are going to get bored? After the staggering losses Provi sustained, and the massive exodus of bears from their space, does he really think time is on CVA's side? If so, I got the deeds to a certain bridge over Hudson I'm willing to sell for cheap. ------------ +15% to railguns' dmg modifier -reduce Spike optimal bonus to 70% +10% to Caldari railboats PG
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.02.26 18:42:00 - [84] Originally by: Tagami Wasp Well, it is sad that Proviblob pets need at least 3:1 to engage. How do I get Atlas, AAA, UK and SYS-K to engage me with equal odds. ---
Tagami Wasp Caldari Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 18:52:00 - [85] Edited by: Tagami Wasp on 26/02/2010 18:54:16 Originally by: Tagami Wasp I've noticed that after we grew to 1K+ and got the support of .-A-. (awesome fighting machine), only a few of those alliances in Providence bring the fight. Originally by: Suitonia Originally by: Tagami Wasp Well, it is sad that Proviblob pets need at least 3:1 to engage. How do I get Atlas, AAA, UK and SYS-K to engage me with equal odds. quoting outside context is bad, mkay? Didn't say you don't bring it, did I? So far, Genos, I -RED and a few others go for it. The rest of the pets, just curl up and cry. ------------ +15% to railguns' dmg modifier -reduce Spike optimal bonus to 70% +10% to Caldari railboats PG
Liteshow Caldari The Leather Knights Aegis Militia	Posted - 2010.02.26 20:07:00 - [86] Well, until recent events have given UK reason (sov fail FTL), we didn't see more than 2-3 UK members at a time. And after we blob the gates, they would just cloak and afk for a few hours. Now at least if/when there is a confrontation, it's been us vs bigger blob (and remember, it's only a blob if the other side has more ships ), so at least there's been some sort of GF going on, sometimes even in the US prime time zones... Please resize sig to a maximum of 400 x 120 - Mitnal
Airborne Ninja Minmatar GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO	Posted - 2010.02.26 20:15:00 - [87] Originally by: General Windypops My problem is that I'm like any other prize fighter. When you live on the edge and ride at the top of your game you rely to a certain extent on having a strong opponent to keep you sharp. Goons folded in seconds and the only ones in their leadership who knew who to spar don't even log on. PL ran like school girls and even lol-RPers like U'K are kicking their enemies ass all over the place. I just don't have anything to be angry about any more :( I had high hopes that Maru Kage or whatever they're called would rise up to achieve greatness, but I was inexplicably wrong about that. Oh man
Itzena Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO	Posted - 2010.02.26 20:19:00 - [88] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: XavierVE Edited by: XavierVE on 26/02/2010 00:05:25 Quote: Some people are worried that if CVA get beaten to empire, it will be the end of NRDS in Providence and healthy roaming grounds If you think AAA will let you install a real NRDS in Providence, then you're on something. AAA don't tell us how to manage our ROE. Aw, lookit the cute pet thinking he has any say in such matters.
Lykouleon Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.26 20:38:00 - [89] Originally by: Itzena Aw, lookit the cute pet thinking he has any say in such matters. aww, umad? Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
D3rg3 Minmatar Alpann Siad Anam Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.26 20:44:00 - [90] Originally by: Itzena Aw, lookit the cute pet thinking he has any say in such matters. aww, lookit the cute irrelevant troll thinking he has any say in....anything at all

Agent Unknown Caldari Night Theifs Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2010.02.26 21:32:00 - [91] So now R3 is being sieged (KBP soon to follow). I sense a very interesting next few days. By the way, this is my signature. TeamSpeak For EVE - API-controlled TeamSpeak 3 Access!
Jacabon Mere Caldari Quantum Horizons Skynet Confederation	Posted - 2010.02.26 21:45:00 - [92] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Jacabon Mere Originally by: Butter Dog The truth is it wouldn't be any different, except UK aren't as anally retentive as CVA and won't try to force everyone to follow our standings list. Nor would we go on suicidal imperial crusades into the space of powerful alliances so your offering nrds without the protection. sounds ideal for a small upcoming alliance So just giving people space isn't enough now? Gotta hold their hands too? thats what cva have been doing up until recently. ----------------------- Quantum Horizons is recruiting Aussies/players active around DT. Join "QH Public" for a chat and more info. Website
Iwannah Spankjoo Amarr Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.27 00:33:00 - [93] R3-K7K station and iHub reinforced. No reds to pewpew, so people just titan bowl etc. However, there was a casualty
Xious Caldari H A V O C Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.02.27 00:53:00 - [94] The world is finally rid of the evil that is Freelanc3r, EVE, throw down your weapons and rejoice!
Prez21 Minmatar Resonance.	Posted - 2010.02.27 01:59:00 - [95] -a- sucks so does uk, any half decent alliance would walk over both of you. your both pathectic -A- is dying but what do you excpect wi havoc and bdci running it both ** corps, and uk are **ing awful.
Tomahawk Bliss Minmatar DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.02.27 02:04:00 - [96] Originally by: General Windypops The thing that really makes me chuckle is that these lol RPers are putting up 10x the fight that you did when you surrendered . cough well i think the greater point this Ushra'khan pilot is making is that CVA is indeed fighting. Assumptions that a faction can't produce PvPers merely because said faction decides to pay attention to the Fiction of the game is fairly ignorant. Its all just choices of what a person does and why they do it. ...and of course volume of players. Lots more elites in null sec alliances, lots more fail too. As the recent cascades of Sov changes have underlined so clearly.
Lykouleon Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.27 02:11:00 - [97] Originally by: Prez21 -a- sucks so does uk, any half decent alliance would walk over both of you. your both pathectic -A- is dying but what do you excpect wi havoc and bdci running it both ** corps, and uk are *ing awful. insert obligatory "u mad?" comment here* Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
Tagami Wasp Caldari Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.27 02:16:00 - [98] Originally by: Prez21 -a- sucks so does uk, any half decent alliance would walk over both of you. your both pathectic -A- is dying but what do you excpect wi havoc and bdci running it both ** corps, and uk are **ing awful. Such as? Just curious, you seem so well versed in 0.0 warfare that I feel compelled to inquire about your assessment of the situation. ------------ +15% to railguns' dmg modifier -reduce Spike optimal bonus to 70% +10% to Caldari railboats PG
Xyla Vulchanus Amarr Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.27 02:33:00 - [99] I take one night off and manage to miss an invasion of R3 and Freelancer being DDed, Goddamn! We Come For Our People (and your systems)
Pradege D'Hallur Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.02.27 05:42:00 - [100] Originally by: Prez21 -a- sucks so does uk, any half decent alliance would walk over both of you. your both pathectic -A- is dying but what do you excpect wi havoc and bdci running it both ** corps, and uk are **ing awful. Then do cva and company a favor and save them. On a side note i love those pom poms you got there. Forum pvp best pvp.

Das Panzer Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.02.27 11:19:00 - [101] Originally by: Prez21 -a- sucks so does uk, any half decent alliance would walk over both of you. your both pathectic -A- is dying but what do you excpect wi havoc and bdci running it both ** corps, and uk are **ing awful. Hi Loike
Rhaegor Stormborn Minmatar H A V O C Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.02.27 12:26:00 - [102] Originally by: Prez21 -a- sucks so does uk, any half decent alliance would walk over both of you. your both pathectic -A- is dying but what do you excpect wi havoc and bdci running it both ** corps, and uk are **ing awful. /signed
Conlin Gallente Mad Bombers Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.27 12:56:00 - [103] Originally by: Suitonia Originally by: Tagami Wasp Well, it is sad that Proviblob pets need at least 3:1 to engage. How do I get Atlas, AAA, UK and SYS-K to engage me with equal odds. Come out of hiding , and fight ?!
Loike Caldari Resonance.	Posted - 2010.02.27 13:35:00 - [104] Edited by: Loike on 27/02/2010 13:38:42 Originally by: Das Panzer Originally by: Prez21 -a- sucks so does uk, any half decent alliance would walk over both of you. your both pathectic -A- is dying but what do you excpect wi havoc and bdci running it both ** corps, and uk are **ing awful. Hi Loike Just an fyi, that's not me Just a dumb member who seems to want to get kicked for being an idiot. 24hours and he'll be in a noob corp. If you really think I'm that bitter about AAA etc, just lol. I'm really not. I have my disagreements with some things, but nothing like what your corp forums seem to think I'm like
Xennith Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.27 15:52:00 - [105] Originally by: Conlin Originally by: Suitonia Originally by: Tagami Wasp Well, it is sad that Proviblob pets need at least 3:1 to engage. How do I get Atlas, AAA, UK and SYS-K to engage me with equal odds. Come out of hiding , and fight ?! In all fairness Conlin, Genos have been doing exactly that, and doing it very well.
Omal Oma Gallente Aurelius Federation Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.02.27 16:16:00 - [106] Originally by: Exie Burn Provi, Burn!! This thread isn't about you. ________________________________________________ <--- My in-game me.
Abd alAza Amarr Aggressive Commerce Solutions Ltd.	Posted - 2010.02.27 16:17:00 - [107] Edited by: Abd alAza on 27/02/2010 16:22:03
Loike Caldari Resonance.	Posted - 2010.02.27 16:34:00 - [108] Edited by: Loike on 27/02/2010 16:39:34 Originally by: Abd alAza infactual crap You are really dumb. I left COL for several reasons, none of which was to do with wanting / not being given director roles. I left COL after a period of 2months of inactivity and rarely logging in. Nor have I spoken to anyone in COL as to why I left (with the exception of gblock). This is pretty much what I told gblock, also told him a couple of other reasons that I've forgotten in the 6months since I've left. I left because I didn't want to come back to the game and burn out due to handling recruitment, reimbursements, the pvp side of the corp, sorting out members etc. I also disliked how some directors in corp were still calling the shots despite not logging in and actually contributing. COL is an old corp, sure, that's fair enough- but it didn't make my job any easier when we had several friends of directors jooin through back routes, not contribute and then just be kicked / be 'untouchable'. Then I also disliked how despite all the effort I put in, I was incapable of actually fully turning the corp around and making it what I hoped for it - heavy roam focussed. Also fair enough, COL has put good members on CTAs consistently, have a vast industry backbone and a giant pos backbone - it just wasn't what I wanted. R A was far more suiting for what i wanted. Also ever since I found out that COL was one of the corps that profited quite a lot off the ferogel pos exploits, I didn't exactly believe in all the 'respectability' of the corp. Sith8 also annoyed me quite a bit by having a completely contrasting viewpoint to me. When I was trying to push for standings resets, he was pushing for more blues. When I was wanting higher recruitment standards, he was asking me and gblock to stop having standards so high and take in 'pretty much anybody who can fly a t2 bs, because eve is now a numbers game'. Also fair enough- eve is a numbers game, just I don't like that mentality. R A shared my view on this, and as I'd been good friends with sel, kai, jinx etc who were all in R A, after talking to jinx about stuff during a session of being annoyed, he suggested I joined R A - and 24hours later I hadn't reconsidered it, so I left. Leaving without takling to people **ed a lot of people off- which, like many things, I regret. But I don't regret leaving - I just find the petty excuses COL leadership comes up with to flame me for leaving laughable and stupid. As to why I got kicked from R A, it was because I wanted to form a new corp with several friends, including a couple inside R A, and neglected to talk to my ceo about it. Completely fair enough on Dans behalf, it was a **ed move by me. Nothing to do with me claiming to be a 'pvp god'. I have never claimed that, and I doubt I will - because I'm not. And if you think Prez is my alt, then that's truly ****ed, and it's no suprise you believe the crap that your corp leaders tell you about me.
Graman Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.02.27 17:21:00 - [109] Originally by: Loike Edited by: Loike on 27/02/2010 16:43:57 Originally by: Abd alAza infactual crap You are really dumb. I left COL for several reasons, none of which was to do with wanting / not being given director roles. I left COL after a period of 2months of inactivity and rarely logging in. Nor have I spoken to anyone in COL as to why I left (with the exception of gblock). This is pretty much what I told gblock, also told him a couple of other reasons that I've forgotten in the 6months since I've left. I left because I didn't want to come back to the game and burn out due to handling recruitment, reimbursements, the pvp side of the corp, sorting out members etc. I also disliked how some directors in corp were still calling the shots despite not logging in and actually contributing. COL is an old corp, sure, that's fair enough- but it didn't make my job any easier when we had several friends of directors jooin through back routes, not contribute and then just be kicked / be 'untouchable'. Then I also disliked how despite all the effort I put in, I was incapable of actually fully turning the corp around and making it what I hoped for it - heavy roam focussed. Also fair enough, COL has put good members on CTAs consistently, have a vast industry backbone and a giant pos backbone - it just wasn't what I wanted. R A was far more suiting for what i wanted. Also ever since I found out that COL was one of the corps that profited quite a lot off the ferogel pos exploits, I didn't exactly believe in all the 'respectability' of the corp. Sith8 also annoyed me quite a bit by having a completely contrasting viewpoint to me. When I was trying to push for standings resets, he was pushing for more blues. When I was wanting higher recruitment standards, he was asking me and gblock to stop having standards so high and take in 'pretty much anybody who can fly a t2 bs, because eve is now a numbers game'. Also fair enough- eve is a numbers game, just I don't like that mentality. R A shared my view on this, and as I'd been good friends with sel, kai, jinx etc who were all in R A, after talking to jinx about stuff during a session of being annoyed, he suggested I joined R A - and 24hours later I hadn't reconsidered it, so I left. Leaving without takling to people **ed a lot of people off- which, like many things, I regret. But I don't regret leaving - I just find the petty excuses COL leadership comes up with to flame me for leaving laughable and stupid. As to why I got kicked from R A, it was because I wanted to form a new corp with several friends, including a couple inside R A, and neglected to talk to my ceo about it. Completely fair enough on Dans behalf, it was a **ed move by me. Nothing to do with me claiming to be a 'pvp god'. I have never claimed that, and I doubt I will - because I'm not. And if you think Prez is my alt, then that's truly **ed, and it's no suprise you believe the crap that your corp leaders tell you about me. I moved on from COL, your leaders still think I'm really bitter over something, and honestly, I'm not. I'm a little annoyed that some of the leadership have been posting about me on your forums about things they have no clue about, sure, who wouldn't be. I can understand you're ed off I left without telling anybody, but to make up so much bull** to slander someone who worked his ass off for your corp is just stupid. i still luv you m8 if that matters anyway
NAFnist Caldari NAF	Posted - 2010.02.27 17:44:00 - [110] loike m8, they must be missing your company so much, they act all jealous and x-wifey about it take it as a sign of affection

Agent Unknown Caldari Night Theifs Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2010.02.27 20:34:00 - [111] As of now Y-MP stands at 920 or so in local...should be interesting. By the way, this is my signature. TeamSpeak For EVE - API-controlled TeamSpeak 3 Access!
Emperor Ryan Amarr Imperial Syndicate Forces Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2010.02.27 20:49:00 - [112] LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG oh i hear the lag is dropping will try to fly my ship now. - Emperor
Anton Marx Caldari Warhamsters Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.02.27 20:54:00 - [113] Originally by: Loike Edited by: Loike on 27/02/2010 17:22:24 Originally by: Abd alAza infactual crap You are really dumb. I left COL for several reasons, none of which was to do with wanting / not being given director roles. I left COL after a period of 2months of inactivity and rarely logging in. Nor have I spoken to anyone in COL as to why I left (with the exception of gblock). This is pretty much what I told gblock, also told him a couple of other reasons that I've forgotten in the 6months since I've left. I left because I didn't want to come back to the game and burn out due to handling recruitment, reimbursements, the pvp side of the corp, sorting out members etc. This was on top of being one of AAAs main FC's and COLs only particularly active FC at the time. I also disliked how some directors in corp were still calling the shots despite not logging in and actually contributing. COL is an old corp, sure, that's fair enough- but it didn't make my job any easier when we had several friends of directors jooin through back routes, not contribute and then just be kicked / be 'untouchable'. Then I also disliked how despite all the effort I put in, I was incapable of actually fully turning the corp around and making it what I hoped for it - heavy roam focussed. Also fair enough, COL has put good members on CTAs consistently, have a vast industry backbone and a giant pos backbone - it just wasn't what I wanted. R A was far more suiting for what i wanted. Also ever since I found out that COL was one of the corps that profited quite a lot off the ferogel pos exploits, I didn't exactly believe in all the 'respectability' of the corp. Sith8 also annoyed me quite a bit by having a completely contrasting viewpoint to me. When I was trying to push for standings resets, he was pushing for more blues. When I was wanting higher recruitment standards, he was asking me and gblock to stop having standards so high and take in 'pretty much anybody who can fly a t2 bs, because eve is now a numbers game'. Also fair enough- eve is a numbers game, just I don't like that mentality. R A shared my view on this, and as I'd been good friends with sel, kai, jinx etc who were all in R A, after talking to jinx about stuff during a session of being annoyed, he suggested I joined R A - and 24hours later I hadn't reconsidered it, so I left. Leaving without takling to people **ed a lot of people off- which, like many things, I regret. But I don't regret leaving - I just find the petty excuses COL leadership comes up with to flame me for leaving laughable and stupid. As to why I got kicked from R A, it was because I wanted to form a new corp with several friends, including a couple inside R A, and neglected to talk to my ceo about it. Completely fair enough on Dans behalf, it was a **ed move by me. Nothing to do with me claiming to be a 'pvp god'. I have never claimed that, and I doubt I will - because I'm not. And if you think Prez is my alt, then that's truly **ed, and it's no suprise you believe the crap that your corp leaders tell you about me. I moved on from COL, your leaders still think I'm really bitter over something, and honestly, I'm not. I'm a little annoyed that some of the leadership have been posting about me on your forums about things they have no clue about, sure, who wouldn't be. I can understand you're ed off I left without telling anybody, but to make up so much bull** to slander someone who worked his ass off for your corp is just stupid. I too, still love you, Loike <3 [center]DESTROYED
GBlock Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.02.28 06:08:00 - [114] Originally by: Loike Edited by: Loike on 27/02/2010 17:22:24 Originally by: Abd alAza infactual crap Virt-style wall still cant belive u blocked me on msn i still miss nepech -GBlock
Jason Marshall Gallente Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.28 06:13:00 - [115] Sov loss was not my fault this time!
Loike Caldari Resonance.	Posted - 2010.02.28 11:26:00 - [116] Edited by: Loike on 28/02/2010 11:27:02 Originally by: GBlock Originally by: Loike Edited by: Loike on 27/02/2010 17:22:24 Originally by: Abd alAza infactual crap Virt-style wall still cant belive u blocked me on msn i still miss nepech I'll deblock you if you promise to stop insisting I'm bitter And nepech only really reactivated because of finding out I had my own corp (edit; much like the other col guys who joined me - so he'd either be in corp and inactive, or in my corp and active (although the bastard is on holiday) (I do still <3 you, I was just rather emo at the time )
Karn Mithralia Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 02:05:00 - [117] more loike loving here
Giacomo Carissimi Gallente ElitistOps	Posted - 2010.03.01 05:18:00 - [118] so UK arn't pets?
Lykouleon Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 05:43:00 - [119] Originally by: Giacomo Carissimi so UK arn't pets? -1 rep, poor quality Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
Giacomo Carissimi Gallente ElitistOps	Posted - 2010.03.01 05:49:00 - [120] Originally by: Lykouleon Originally by: Giacomo Carissimi so UK arn't pets? -1 rep, poor quality i'm a student from the era of butterdog

Conlin Gallente Mad Bombers Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 07:27:00 - [121] Originally by: Xennith Originally by: Conlin Originally by: Suitonia Originally by: Tagami Wasp Well, it is sad that Proviblob pets need at least 3:1 to engage. How do I get Atlas, AAA, UK and SYS-K to engage me with equal odds. Come out of hiding , and fight ?! In all fairness Conlin, Genos have been doing exactly that, and doing it very well. A few small skirmishes a fight it does not make , another piece of advice is for them to backstab their alliance mates beg for blue or be recruited into the new Ushra'Providence .
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.03.01 09:53:00 - [122] We are a 60 man roaming PvP Corp. What do you expect us to do? Suicide the few dreads we own into you? I think we put up a great fight against the hordes and numbers that we face. We regularly bring the fight and win convincingly against superior numbers, here are a couple of engagements we had this weekend, 1 2 3 4 5 6. Why the hell would we want to be blue to Ushra'Khan or AAA? We don't want space, we don't want blues. We just want good fights, we're a roaming corporation that plays the game for fun. We are getting those right now by being in Sev3rance, which has less blues than you by the way. Being outgunned and being completely outblobbed is fun. Being the underdog is great. Owning space is of no concern to us. We have nothing of which to backstab Sev3rance with, we don't own anything in their space, we have no-one in their executor corporation. All of our assets are PvP ships, and they are in empire. We have nothing lose. Playing the political game is ** anyway. If we ever want to be a recruitment spam **ty renter cannon fodder corp though we'll give you a call. ---
Naughty Spanker Minmatar Boob Heads Vivisection.	Posted - 2010.03.01 09:57:00 - [123] Suitonia, no need to reply. Their horrible, serious business, rage filled and hatred ridden posting speaks volumes about them. The best revenge you can take on them is to keep having fun and be cool about it. The big mouthed pets get absolutely furious about it, as you can see.
Ontaku Oroa Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 10:17:00 - [124] For one I admire the courage Genos shows in fielding multiple Machariels and faction cruisers for skirmish warfare. I would only request you lose them more often because they've been a bit slow to move lately and I could use a few extra ISK to light cigars with.
Rhak Amharr Minmatar Genos Occidere Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.03.01 11:02:00 - [125] Originally by: Ontaku Oroa For one I admire the courage Genos shows in fielding multiple Machariels and faction cruisers for skirmish warfare. I would only request you lose them more often because they've been a bit slow to move lately and I could use a few extra ISK to light cigars with. What a ****ty pet you are, while you use wrecks to light your cigars with, I use machariels to light mine. :)
Ontaku Oroa Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 11:14:00 - [126] Originally by: Rhak Amharr What a ****ty pet you are, while you use wrecks to light your cigars with, I use machariels to light mine. :) Wrecks? Nah, my Machariels are in pristine condition and are available at a premium price! Cynabals too. And Dramiels, every time a Dramiel pops a ship broker says "ka-ching!" So keep on fighting, 'tis good for business.
Conlin Gallente Mad Bombers Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 13:51:00 - [127] Suitonia !!...shocking news !!. Your in an alliance as a member of the Provi block , and according to dotlan .If you ignore sylph , those aegis militia who stabbed you in the back and tucked tail and ran to U'K , and those cowards begging for blue status in Catch (CIA) . Their is still roughly 4500 in number involved in -7- , CVA , Pxt , LFa , Aegis , CSA , Fcon and whomever else you care to mention . I'd rather you fight for what you have , than watch you stab each other in the back , and have us filling U'K ranks with ex Provi . Cos who's to say they wont do to U'K , what they did to you . A few skirmishes is far from enough if you want to keep what you have .
Ontaku Oroa Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 14:02:00 - [128] Conlin I think they are in it for, as it goes, the "lulz". In other words, they've got nothing to lose and probably don't give a space rat's arse who wins.
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.03.01 14:14:00 - [129] 4,500 versus 15,000+ is hardly a fight. Atlas/AAA also are very wealthy, holding a large number of R64's several months prior to dominion, as such, they have a very large cap fleet, and solid ship replacement programs, bigger memberbases, and more experienced FC's/pilots. Atlas and AAA can probably lose caps in a 4:1 ratio to proviblock and still be in a better position afterwards. There never was any hope of beating a powerblock that is more than 5x bigger than the Proviblock, with much better resources and capitals, more experience, more allies. It was always going to be a Turkeyshot. Anyone who isn't ******ed can see that. I already said that Genos doesn't own in assets in sev3rance space, we don't participate in sov warfare at all, and our 30 or so active pilots arn't going to turn the above mentioned turkeyshot into a fight. We are hardly an official sev3rance corp, we mostly just joined to kill the terrible systematic chaos pilots etc. We don't have anything to keep. ---
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 14:40:00 - [130] Originally by: Suitonia There never was any hope of beating a powerblock that is more than 5x bigger than the Proviblock, with much better resources and capitals, more experience, more allies. It was always going to be a Turkeyshot. Anyone who isn't ******ed can see that. Say hi to Aralis for us.

Conlin Gallente Mad Bombers Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 14:52:00 - [131] Originally by: Suitonia 4,500 versus 15,000+ is hardly a fight. Atlas/AAA also are very wealthy, holding a large number of R64's several months prior to dominion, as such, they have a very large cap fleet, and solid ship replacement programs, bigger memberbases, and more experienced FC's/pilots. Atlas and AAA can probably lose caps in a 4:1 ratio to proviblock and still be in a better position afterwards. There never was any hope of beating a powerblock that is more than 5x bigger than the Proviblock, with much better resources and capitals, more experience, more allies. It was always going to be a Turkeyshot. Anyone who isn't ******ed can see that. I already said that Genos doesn't own in assets in sev3rance space, we don't participate in sov warfare at all, and our 30 or so active pilots arn't going to turn the above mentioned turkeyshot into a fight. We are hardly an official sev3rance corp, we mostly just joined to kill the terrible systematic chaos pilots etc. We don't have anything to keep. 15000 ?!! U'K fought when the boot was on the other foot on numerous occassions , no wonder provis getting a pasting when its mebers have that attitude
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.03.01 14:55:00 - [132] I think Aralis knows that and knew that too. Maybe if he accepted AAAs offer it would have been better for Providence as a whole, but that doesn't make it the right choice. Aralis essentially had to choose between losing their core roleplaying values, or losing space. And he chose the latter. Alot of people not in the role playing scene would probably say "lol arogent honour RPers etc." But I am sure that Ushra'Khan can understand why he made the choice he did. An unlikely example; if AAA tomorrow made an annoucement that they would start enslaving people, I'm sure Ushra'Khan would cut their ties too. ---
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.03.01 15:03:00 - [133] Originally by: Conlin 15000 ?!! U'K fought when the boot was on the other foot on numerous occassions , no wonder provis getting a pasting when its mebers have that attitude I wasn't in the providence block prior to february 2010. So retorting with how they outnumbered you in the past isn't going to mean anything to me. I was actually one of the most notorious pirates in the area. I don't think stating the obvious that the Southern Coalition is obviously much stronger in terms of numbers, capitals, allies, and income is having an attitude, its a logical assumption. Pretending that Providence can fight while outnumbered 5 to 1, against several super capitals, a capital fleet about 20x as big as the providences remaining capitals is delusional at best. ---
Ontaku Oroa Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 15:04:00 - [134] I remember flying a Thrasher against CVA capitals in 9UY back when we were the ones getting pasted left and right. Because that was pretty much the only hull which I could afford with the cash and skills I had on which I could fit the highest amount of guns. Whoever could, fought, even though I think we all knew its was a losing game. But its too early to bash CVA for the "non-violent resistance" policy, I'm sure they'll be bringing the fight tooth and nail when their home systems are being sieged. Though I feel inclined to remind their strategists, if there are any, that the elastic defense doctrine assumes continuous and effective harassment of the enemy. The Gandhi approach doesn't work.
solicitatora Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2010.03.01 20:24:00 - [135] I will quote myself from a diff post since it all relates anyhow. "shame on UK and the southern coalition for taking out the last of the NRDS alliance. May it curse the game play of you and your friends like it has in the past. cheers for the awesomeness of gang jumping tactics. Rolling Eyes -soli" I truly feel that the southern coalition it's acting wrongfully by taking CVA space. They should really grow some marbles, take the time to do some logistics and move their fat arse's to the real enemy. But at this point you can clearly see it's an act of laziness on part of the high command for the southern coalition. This is where I tip my hat to the northern coalition. and say good job to you guys for being strong, since they move forces so easily with no hesitation to help their allies. clearly can see who has a better mindset. So sad that greed has poison the minds of the southern bandwagon so quickly, such shame.... I hope all of eve turns against you guys like it did not so long ago. -soli
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 20:27:00 - [136] Originally by: Suitonia 4,500 versus 15,000+ is hardly a fight. This isn't about ~goodfights~ ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
Conlin Gallente Mad Bombers Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.03 03:36:00 - [137] Edited by: Conlin on 03/03/2010 03:35:56 Originally by: solicitatora I will quote myself from a diff post since it all relates anyhow. "shame on UK and the southern coalition for taking out the last of the NRDS alliance. May it curse the game play of you and your friends like it has in the past. cheers for the awesomeness of gang jumping tactics. Rolling Eyes -soli" I truly feel that the southern coalition it's acting wrongfully by taking CVA space. They should really grow some marbles, take the time to do some logistics and move their fat arse's to the real enemy. But at this point you can clearly see it's an act of laziness on part of the high command for the southern coalition. This is where I tip my hat to the northern coalition. and say good job to you guys for being strong, since they move forces so easily with no hesitation to help their allies. clearly can see who has a better mindset. So sad that greed has poison the minds of the southern bandwagon so quickly, such shame.... I hope all of eve turns against you guys like it did not so long ago. -soli Hmm now where were you nearly 3 years ago ?
Eradicator44 Gallente Dissonance Corp Primary.	Posted - 2010.03.03 16:10:00 - [138] hmmm, first time i'v looked at this post against the -A- and CVA stuff, but all i can say is both sides are reletivley good in certain aspects of the game and i don't know what LFA were thinking, i mean did they really think they could take sov from -A- and acutally hold onto it....? These new sov mechanics have not really put a huge impact onto what large alliances hold sov of - yes alliances will "lose" sov, does not mean they won't give the space up, the original alliance will fight for it back so the new sov mechanics in my opinon have not made a great impact - from where ISK was coming in from Moon Mining, now comes in from Renter Alliances. Anyway, all i can say is im glad i left providence space when i did :) - hugs capital Erad


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