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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.02.28 03:14:00 -
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I have 2 solutions currently.
First is disbanding corps and replacing them with channels, thus hiding the members list and avoiding wardecs with one move.
The other option is to create a bunch of trial alts and sign them up to the corp to hide the real members in garbage data.
Which does CCP prefer we do?
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The reason CCP wants to include the list is that itęs already possible to obtain this list, albeit through advanced means
Obtainable through ingame spying, google surfing, intelligence gathering or via some kinda of API/logserver hack?
If it's a hack then sure a level playing field is good, I take the same position when it comes to macro-miners.
However if this "advanced means" is simply the collecting of a list of known members, then this is not a problem to be fixed or an unlevel playing field in any way, shape, or form.
I can understand the social reasons for the thinking. I can understand that people need to be seen to be connected.
I however can not agree on CCP deciding to publish private corp information just to have long friends lists on a social network.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.02.28 06:51:00 -
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Edited by: Herschel Yamamoto on 28/02/2010 06:51:15
It's actually possible to put together a list of every member in every corp in the game if you really wanted to. The character namespace is finite, so it can be searched exhaustively to find every character name in Eve. Then just run 700k Show Info commands, and voila, list of members for every corp in New Eden. Nobody has done this in game, because the interface is terrible and the game will sniff a macro a mile away, doubly so when you have to keep redoing it to keep your data fresh. But when you put a Show Info tool on the web, well, someone will write a crawler bot in the first evening to run regular downloads of it. At that point, membership lists are out of the bag, and you might as well make them public to avoid information asymmetry.
What CCP needs to do is either figure out a way to throw a wrench into the proceedings. One obvious choice is to hard-limit Show Info queries, but I wouldn't give a plugged nickel for the chances of that holding up against some bored hacker. Similarly, they could try to make it hard to put names to corps, or remove search functions for player names, or something, but those seem like very big hammers to use. If they can't stop it, then it comes down to a question of whether intel-gathering or a functional Show Info is a more important part of the post-Spacebook game of Eve, and to be honest, I don't know.
This is not as simple as you're making it out to be. There's good reasons why CCP is asking this question, and it's not because they're dumb.
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Jared Ulfsuun
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Posted - 2010.02.28 10:17:00 -
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Limiting the amount of information shown on Spacebook by default seems like a sensible solution.
Eg. by default make employment history hidden to non-friends.
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.03.01 02:44:00 -
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Facebook has a massive array of privacy options.
They obviously have no idea what they're doing. :-P
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Mr Intel
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dr BattleSmith
Facebook has a massive array of privacy options.
They obviously have no idea what they're doing. :-P
Yes while CCP is at it, they also should show my account name, password, and all alts, as well as my credit card number and security pin. Just to make sure that everyone is on a level field with the hackers and people who know how to use this magical tool called Google Search.
You forgot to support your own topic by the way.
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Maxsim Goratiev
Gallente
Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:52:00 -
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Edited by: Maxsim Goratiev on 01/03/2010 22:51:54
if you can see what corporation an individual is in, then you can see what individuals are in the corporation, makes perfect logical sense to me. I think this was supose to be here for a while. I actually like it.
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Drake Draconis
Shadow Cadre
Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.03.02 00:14:00 -
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Edited by: Drake Draconis on 02/03/2010 00:14:50
this space*coughfacecough*book crap better be optional (as in turn the damn thing off).
Last thing I need is broadcasting to the whole world who we are and what we are.
Sorry but not everyone is a social butterfly.
Some of us like to go to space to get lost
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