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Anaxis Muntaine
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Posted - 2010.03.28 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Gho Higyidr No one ever said if they liked mine or not. D= I hope i get into the top 7 but Man with so many good stories... :D
Gho - yes, I enjoyed yours! Good job.
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Arenjer Delpra
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Posted - 2010.03.28 16:53:00 -
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Has anyone read mine? Or was it that hard to get through :P
Just looking for some feedback, positive or negative so I know where to improve. Thanks.
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The RAv3n
Caldari An Eye For An Eye AN EYE F0R AN EYE
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Posted - 2010.03.28 17:19:00 -
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Edited by: The RAv3n on 28/03/2010 17:21:34 Same here, feedback would be great, my story is Dragon 3 if anyone read that, or wants to read it. Just to give a summery, its about one of those pilots you can see in a fighter drone (not really a drone since there is a pilot).
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Anaxis Muntaine
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Posted - 2010.03.28 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Arenjer Delpra Has anyone read mine? Or was it that hard to get through :P
Just looking for some feedback, positive or negative so I know where to improve. Thanks.
Arenjer - I did read yours and I enjoyed it. The positives of that story were that you were obviously well versed in the EVE universe, including the foods that they ate as miners, the various technologies, etc.. You really seemed able to put the reader firmly into that period of time and technology. The downside was that there were grammatical errors that could probably have been remedied by having someone look it over for editing purposes. All in all, though, I did enjoy being introduced to the mining occupation as a way of life.
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Anaxis Muntaine
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Posted - 2010.03.28 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: The RAv3n Edited by: The RAv3n on 28/03/2010 17:21:34 Same here, feedback would be great, my story is Dragon 3 if anyone read that, or wants to read it. Just to give a summery, its about one of those pilots you can see in a fighter drone (not really a drone since there is a pilot).
Raven - I thought your story was very descriptive - you certainly have a talent for describing space, EVE ships, and the various dynamics of space flight. I thought the story would have benefitted from increased length so that you could provide more depth to the main character. Some short stories are meant for that word count, but I think this one needed an additional 500-1000 words devoted specifically to that character, internal dialog, and perhaps a short mention if his history, as backstory would have lent itself, also, to a more complete tale. Again, though, I'd say your strength is in description and also in placing the reader in the shoes of the lead character.
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Lilah Pierce
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Posted - 2010.03.28 19:15:00 -
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This was a pretty fun contest. Pretty much the only PVP I've taken part in since I started the game, actually.
Can't wait to see who the winners are. :) |
Plentyn Annwn
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Posted - 2010.03.28 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Lilah Pierce Pretty much the only PVP I've taken part in since I started the game, actually.
:)
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Waryth
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Posted - 2010.03.28 21:37:00 -
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Edited by: Waryth on 28/03/2010 21:37:25 It's truly amazing how great all the stories have been. I want to say a pre-emptive congratulations to the winners (of which I am sure I am not one). The quality of the stories have really blown me away, brilliant is all I can say.
So to any of the great writers who read my story, would you be able to give me some feedback please either here or via email, it would be very much appreciated.
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AndrewBot88
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Posted - 2010.03.28 23:04:00 -
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Gyah, the suspense is killing me D: I doubt i made it into the top 7, but still. I wanna see the resuuUults!
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William Walker
Amarr Skies Tis Moiras
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Posted - 2010.03.28 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: AndrewBot88 Gyah, the suspense is killing me D: I doubt i made it into the top 7, but still. I wanna see the resuuUults!
Same. F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5 ________________________________________________
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Katrin Domay
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Posted - 2010.03.29 03:01:00 -
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Lots of people asking for reviews of their work. I've noticed on the forums that there are not a lot of reviews up though. So I say this: If you want your work reviewed, don't sit back and wait. Look at your peers' submissions as well and give them feedback. Critiques are a two way street. Don't ask unless you have given. If you have given and do not get a review, tough *******. If you do not think yourself qualified, think about what you are saying: "I am not qualified to read a story and say whether or not I found it compelling." Don't be silly. You are part of a target audience and what you say is always important to any author worth his/her salt.
Of course if you do already practice giving more than receiving, then hurrah. I'll have to find some other reason not to like you.
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Rixx Javix
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Posted - 2010.03.29 12:06:00 -
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How to keep 120+ Eve fan fiction writers in suspense...
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Mizhara Del'thul
Minmatar Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics
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Posted - 2010.03.29 12:33:00 -
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Tell me about it. I've been antsy the whole week, and getting worse now. It is all an elaborate plan to torture us all, I'm sure. But I can definitely understand it taking a while. I've barely been able to scratch the surface of this mountain of fiction as it is on my schedule, which is rather free. If Silver's actually got a life, this is helluvalot of work for him to go through and actually judge.
Anyway, if this is to be an annual contest, how about we start planning? How can we of the community pitch in for the next one? Donations for the prize pool? Get some of the more artistic people in the community to create artwork and advertisement, perhaps. Anyone with contacts in real life could perhaps manage to wrangle up a location where the winners could get 'published' outside of the Eve community?
Hrm, perhaps we could even wrangle a spot in E-ON?
If Silver's up to it, there should be a channel in-game about this annual contest where people could contribute and discuss such things?
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AndrewBot88
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Posted - 2010.03.29 12:39:00 -
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Maybe even help with the judging? Even just a second, non-bias, non-partial judge could really help. Especially once the competition is known, there could be twice as many entries.
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Rixx Javix
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Posted - 2010.03.29 13:09:00 -
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If anyone is interested I'd volunteer to create a PDF "Book" collection of all the winner's stories, professionally designed and even edited, so they'd all be in one collection.
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AndrewBot88
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Posted - 2010.03.29 13:12:00 -
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I sure wouldn't mind a copy. Maybe wait until Silver is done juding, though, so you can put something (A star, a battleship, something) to designate the winners. Just an idea.
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Mizhara Del'thul
Minmatar Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics
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Posted - 2010.03.29 13:13:00 -
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That sounds rather interesting, to be honest. Allowing the authors to 'fine tune' their entries before they're gathered up in a .pdf 'book'. How about making a project out of it, getting some artists to make 'cover art' for each winning entry? That kind of 'book' would definitely be something I'd spread around to my friends as a recruitment to Eve advertisement, or just for their enjoyment.
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Travarica
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Posted - 2010.03.29 13:14:00 -
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Edited by: Travarica on 29/03/2010 13:14:57
Originally by: Rixx Javix If anyone is interested I'd volunteer to create a PDF "Book" collection of all the winner's stories, professionally designed and even edited, so they'd all be in one collection.
I think that would be awsome! Great idea. Bonus points if you put in some nice pics also. Also, I wouldn't mind helping you do it, if you find it to be to much work for only 1 person!
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Rixx Javix
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Posted - 2010.03.29 13:29:00 -
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Edited by: Rixx Javix on 29/03/2010 13:32:12 Yes, I'd wait until the winners are announced, the collection should include the 7 winners. I do this sort of thing for a living actually, I run an advertising agency in RL, so I have access to a lot of very talented people. Don't mind doing something like this for the community.
You can check out my Eve blog at EVEOGANDA Or my EVE Deviant Art Gallery Which is based on Eve art and propaganda.
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AndrewBot88
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Posted - 2010.03.29 14:17:00 -
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Is anybody else as excited/pumped up/nervous/etc. as i am? Or am i just weird like that? : P
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Lopsy Lu
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2010.03.29 14:28:00 -
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Quote: Is anybody else as excited/pumped up/nervous/etc. as i am? Or am i just weird like that
It's a writer thing.
Don't know if you've ever tried submitting to publications before, but it's exactly the same type of feeling waiting for the rejection/acceptance letter. The pro mags don't give out Bhaalgorns, though.
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Jhahamesh Intara
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Posted - 2010.03.29 16:03:00 -
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Patience is difficult. If you are serious about your writing, this is the opportunity to self criticize you work. Print it out, re-read it, and ask yourself how you could have made it better. Try re-writing a section or two to see if you can improve on your original. Ask yourself questions like; Would somebody outside of Eve understand the story?; Have I adequately defined the terms I am using?; Is there a better way to create the conflict/tension of the main character?; How would I have written this if not subject to a 3000 word count?
For myself, I cut out a great section describing why Minmatar ships were designed like they were having to do with the limited resources of the Minmatar people. If not for the word count limit, that section would have been included in my submission thus enriching the atmosphere that much further.
This is also a good time to experiment with your story. Try adding things, take other things away, and see if those changes enhance your story or not. If your story is short enough, try re-writing it from a different perspective. If yours is a first person perspective, try a third person option.
Another thing I would suggest as practice, is taking another writers story, and writing that in your style, keeping the essence of the story but telling it in your style. Then compare the two works. The more you practice and learn to self-criticize, the better your work will ultimately be. And never be afraid to re-write, or write the story two different ways.
Good luck everyone!
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Farworth
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Posted - 2010.03.29 18:04:00 -
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Edited by: Farworth on 29/03/2010 18:04:08
Originally by: Jhahamesh Intara
Another thing I would suggest as practice, is taking another writers story, and writing that in your style, keeping the essence of the story but telling it in your style. Then compare the two works.
This would be fun as a sort of side activity. Take a story (maybe the winner) and have everyone who entered the contest rewrite it. It would be a challenge to keep it fresh (and good exercise in the dozons of ways an idea can be twisted to suit your purposes). |
Hallan Turrek
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.03.29 18:13:00 -
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Not gonna lie. I'm fairly interested in who the winner(s) of this contest will be. ________________________________________ A merry life and a short one shall be my motto. Bartholomew Roberts
Check out my blog. |
Marcus Vatta
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Posted - 2010.03.29 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jhahamesh Intara
For myself, I cut out a great section describing why Minmatar ships were designed like they were having to do with the limited resources of the Minmatar people. If not for the word count limit, that section would have been included in my submission thus enriching the atmosphere that much further.
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I did the same. I had a section explaining how the villain had had his cybernetics surgically removed so he wouldn't be recognized as a capsuleer. It really filled in a hole in the plot, but I had to cut it for space.
PS, any feedback on "Authentic"? As my first foray into Eve Fiction, I'm not expecting it to win, especially given the quality of the other submissions, but I'm definately looking for constructive critism.
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Silver Night
Caldari Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2010.03.30 06:16:00 -
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Hey, just wanted to let you all know I'm working on it. Weekend was a bit busier than I anticipated in RL. Should have the winners up in the next day or so though. --------------
Silver's Fiction
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Azeid Zeus
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.03.30 09:20:00 -
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Here it goes, some reviews of stories I've read written by others in this really nice competition! Feel free to read and comment on my own piece if you like!
"The Journey" by Feral Noir http://www.eve-chatsubo.com/viewtopic.php?t=5339
A simple story written in first-person perspective about a pod-pilot trying to reach a distant star. Even though stories written in first-perspective often can feel a bit thin I did quite like this. There was a clear path from the start to the end and a good ending with a good cliff-hanger for a continuation. A negative aspect is that it break the rules of the competition by focusing on a pod-pilot.
My views on the story - The story is about a pod-pilot - Some overuse of the I-term - More content would have given the story more essence + Visible storyline from start to end + Simple backstory to let reader follow
"Encouragement" by Stitcher http://www.eve-chatsubo.com/viewtopic.php?p=135663#135663
Two brothers walking different paths of life is a classical approach to a drama. The main part of the story surrounds a meeting of the two brothers after a long period apart from each-other. The middle part of the story is a good dialog between the brothers but I would like to see a deeper dive into the characters in the beginning then the one I got. Perhaps it should focus on less number of characteristics of the brothers to let the reader get a feeling for them instead of explaining to much "for free".
My views on the story - Stagnant beginning where the flow for the reader is somewhat lacking + Good use of dialog written in good form
-- Beware of that beam lad, not always be it a miningbeam even though it's red. |
Sanjorel Artabanus
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Posted - 2010.03.30 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Azeid Zeus Edited by: Azeid Zeus on 30/03/2010 14:05:00 Here it goes, some reviews of stories I've read written by others in this really nice competition! Feel free to read and comment on my own piece if you like!
"The Journey" by Feral Noir http://www.eve-chatsubo.com/viewtopic.php?t=5339
A simple story written in first-person perspective about a pod-pilot trying to reach a distant star. Even though stories written in first-perspective often can feel a bit thin I did quite like this. There was a clear path from the start to the end and a good ending with a good cliff-hanger for a continuation. A negative aspect is that it break the rules of the competition by focusing on a pod-pilot.
My views on the story - The story is about a pod-pilot - Some overuse of the I-term - More content would have given the story more essence + Visible storyline from start to end + Simple backstory to let reader follow
With all due respect...but doesn't first-person POV kind of require the use of the first-person pronoun "I"? I think that's the idea of using that POV as opposed to third-person (or the less used, second-person).
Just a thought.
Art
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Iltarus Almondis
Caldari Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.30 21:38:00 -
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Quote: (or the less used, second-person)
There is actually a second-person POV Storytelling? I'd love to read one of that kind :P
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Farworth
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Posted - 2010.03.30 22:29:00 -
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Yes there is 2nd Person P.O.V. (Point of View). It is rarely used as it is difficult to do correctly. 2nd person requires the author tell the reader what s/he is thinking and feeling as the main character (e.g. "you throw the ball"). Also "you" as a pronoun is somewhat ungainly and there are few alternatives for it, which can make sentence structure monotonous (but I highly recommend reading 2nd person, they are usually quite good). This brings me to my second point (no pun intended). When our dear reviewer from earlier mentioned that there was too much "I" in a story, I believe what he meant was that "I" became the subject of too many sentences. Structure, therefore, was (at least by him) thought to be overly simplistic. There was too much focus on the character of the story and not enough on his surroundings and the other players. "I" can also become self-important and with some writers it is difficult to tell who is speaking--the character or the author. He may have meant that characterization was spotty.
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