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Ba'Rumph
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Posted - 2010.03.02 17:33:00 -
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 Originally by: Ltd SpacePig
Then you gave CVA a peace offer you knew that they never would accept.
I heard the peace offer was "We'll give you back all your space if you promise not to invade our space again." If CVA couldn't accept that, they deserve to die.
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Ba'Rumph
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The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2010.03.02 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Garreck
Y'know, it's interesting to read something like this when all anyone ever complains about these days as regards 0.0 in particular is the NIP/NAPfesting, the bandwaggons, blah de blah...
CVA aren't trying to be heroes by refusing to back down even though we know we can't win, but given all the anti NAP/NIP sentiment that goes around one might think people would at least 'get' why we have no desire to feed the NAP/NIP culture. Either we hold space at our whim or we lose space. That's far healthier for the game as a whole than stepping back in line and being just one more potential conflict that will never happen, one more alliance that shouldn't hold space but does anyway.
Honestly, I think it's great that you'd rather fight to the death than have boring NAPs. The problem is that so many of your renters seem to think that -A- et al is some sort of uber evil aggressor (ok, they are uber evil, but they aren't the aggressors), when in fact there was a way out for CVA and pets from the get go.
So, if all you want is ~good fights~ while you die, go for it. Just tell your renters this so they can gtfo to empire and not die for your ~good fights~.
CVA has harbored criminals for far too long, and I look forward to them being back where I can shoot them without getting blobbed by you guys.
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Ba'Rumph
Caldari
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2010.03.02 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Garreck
Wrong to offer? Nah, it's a smart move, saves you guys a lot of trouble if we agreed to the terms.
Saves them a lot of trouble if you accept the offer for them to give you back systems they already took?
Originally by: Garreck
Wrong of us to accept? You betcha.
I suppose you didn't want that space anyway.
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Ba'Rumph
Caldari
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2010.03.02 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Danny Lonnegan
I presume he means it would save AAA the trouble of grinding through 50 station systems.
It's actually interesting that AAA made the offer. Presumably, they thought that if CVA promised not to push into Catch again, they'd stick to their word, either out of some sense of honor or because they were afraid of another whipping. Like I said in my tl;dr post above, AAA has good strategic reasons for wanting to see Providence neutralized. There must have been some level of trust in CVA leadership if they were willing to offer a cease-fire when they clearly had the upper hand.
That or they were sure CVA would decline and the cease-fire was a propaganda move.
Yeah I guess. From my experience with CVA, I think they would have honored the deal if they had made it. I understand why CVA didn't want to make the deal, but I also realize that the fact that they didn't make the deal - after pursuing an aggressive expansion policy that backfired - makes them solely guilty of their own and their pets demise and removal from Providence. I just want this obvious fact acknowledged so that the tears from CVA pets can cease. I need them to save those tears for later.
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Ba'Rumph
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The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2010.03.03 03:44:00 -
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Nah, he's working hard to try to get people to believe that his threads were some sort of epic troll totally worth getting kicked out of his alliance over and not just whiny failthreads.
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