EVE Search - Solving the Pirate Menace

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Master Scy	Posted - 2003.06.25 23:13:00 - [1] Cptmorgan, combat is usually too quick for these organised resposnses to save anyone, and running away and camping a few systems away is too easy. Besides this, even if there's 20 people on local, how many are fully equipped for fighting instead of for speed or mining? Edited by: Master Scy on 25/06/2003 23:13:45 ----------------------------- You think Marco Polo said "Damn Mongolians were camping that cave entry into the next valley the entire day, you can't get friggin anywhere in the world with those damn griefer tribes all over the place" ? -Indigo Seqi
Master Scy Caldari	Posted - 2003.06.25 23:13:00 - [2] Cptmorgan, combat is usually too quick for these organised resposnses to save anyone, and running away and camping a few systems away is too easy. Besides this, even if there's 20 people on local, how many are fully equipped for fighting instead of for speed or mining? Edited by: Master Scy on 25/06/2003 23:13:45 ----------------------------- You think Marco Polo said "Damn Mongolians were camping that cave entry into the next valley the entire day, you can't get friggin anywhere in the world with those damn griefer tribes all over the place" ? -Indigo Seqi
Master Scy	Posted - 2003.06.26 04:38:00 - [3] Passari -> 45 podkills in last 24 hours Mara -> 35 Eifer -> 49 About another 50 pods destroyed in other places over the galaxy. Passari -> 62 ships destroyed Mara -> 41 Eifer -> 59 I do believe these numbers speak for themselves Jash. And I'm sure these numbers were a lot worse before everyone knew about the Passari camping. ----------------------------- You think Marco Polo said "Damn Mongolians were camping that cave entry into the next valley the entire day, you can't get friggin anywhere in the world with those damn griefer tribes all over the place" ? -Indigo Seqi
Master Scy Caldari	Posted - 2003.06.26 04:38:00 - [4] Passari -> 45 podkills in last 24 hours Mara -> 35 Eifer -> 49 About another 50 pods destroyed in other places over the galaxy. Passari -> 62 ships destroyed Mara -> 41 Eifer -> 59 I do believe these numbers speak for themselves Jash. And I'm sure these numbers were a lot worse before everyone knew about the Passari camping. ----------------------------- You think Marco Polo said "Damn Mongolians were camping that cave entry into the next valley the entire day, you can't get friggin anywhere in the world with those damn griefer tribes all over the place" ? -Indigo Seqi
Master Scy	Posted - 2003.06.26 04:46:00 - [5] The last 5 times I sent my alt there, they didn't bother podding it. ----------------------------- You think Marco Polo said "Damn Mongolians were camping that cave entry into the next valley the entire day, you can't get friggin anywhere in the world with those damn griefer tribes all over the place" ? -Indigo Seqi
Master Scy Caldari	Posted - 2003.06.26 04:46:00 - [6] The last 5 times I sent my alt there, they didn't bother podding it. ----------------------------- You think Marco Polo said "Damn Mongolians were camping that cave entry into the next valley the entire day, you can't get friggin anywhere in the world with those damn griefer tribes all over the place" ? -Indigo Seqi
Master Scy	Posted - 2003.06.26 05:27:00 - [7] Yes, the ships destroyed counts ships lost to NPCs as well as players, I just stuck that in to show that actual piracy is higher than number of pod kills (since it would be next to impossible to have lost a ship to NPC pirates in Mara, etc unless you want to). Actual piracy is probably a few times higher than pod kills since not all pirates intend to pod, or act quickly enough to do that. In Mara, etc there's 5-10 people camping at a time, meaning that they'd have a better podding to ship destruction ratio than elsewhere. Then add to that the cases where people escape from pirates completely, without losing their ships. My point was that piracy exists, even though you didn't come across much of it yourself (neither did I btw, I had to pass through mara/passari twice, and no problems other than that). ----------------------------- You think Marco Polo said "Damn Mongolians were camping that cave entry into the next valley the entire day, you can't get friggin anywhere in the world with those damn griefer tribes all over the place" ? -Indigo Seqi
Master Scy Caldari	Posted - 2003.06.26 05:27:00 - [8] Yes, the ships destroyed counts ships lost to NPCs as well as players, I just stuck that in to show that actual piracy is higher than number of pod kills (since it would be next to impossible to have lost a ship to NPC pirates in Mara, etc unless you want to). Actual piracy is probably a few times higher than pod kills since not all pirates intend to pod, or act quickly enough to do that. In Mara, etc there's 5-10 people camping at a time, meaning that they'd have a better podding to ship destruction ratio than elsewhere. Then add to that the cases where people escape from pirates completely, without losing their ships. My point was that piracy exists, even though you didn't come across much of it yourself (neither did I btw, I had to pass through mara/passari twice, and no problems other than that). ----------------------------- You think Marco Polo said "Damn Mongolians were camping that cave entry into the next valley the entire day, you can't get friggin anywhere in the world with those damn griefer tribes all over the place" ? -Indigo Seqi
Master Scy	Posted - 2003.06.26 05:48:00 - [9] I do understand your point, even if piracy set you back 30 minutes there would still be a lot of complaining, etc. But when 1 encounter can set you back 1 week, I don't think people are blowing things out of proportion.. What makes the things worse is that currently, the Mara/Passari situation simply cannot be resolved (unless someone out there has a good suggestion on how to take out 5 cruisers and 1 battleship surrounded by 100 containers which make everyone lag when warping in, and when those pirates will all warp out at the first sign of trouble, and come back later). ----------------------------- You think Marco Polo said "Damn Mongolians were camping that cave entry into the next valley the entire day, you can't get friggin anywhere in the world with those damn griefer tribes all over the place" ? -Indigo Seqi
Master Scy Caldari	Posted - 2003.06.26 05:48:00 - [10] I do understand your point, even if piracy set you back 30 minutes there would still be a lot of complaining, etc. But when 1 encounter can set you back 1 week, I don't think people are blowing things out of proportion.. What makes the things worse is that currently, the Mara/Passari situation simply cannot be resolved (unless someone out there has a good suggestion on how to take out 5 cruisers and 1 battleship surrounded by 100 containers which make everyone lag when warping in, and when those pirates will all warp out at the first sign of trouble, and come back later). ----------------------------- You think Marco Polo said "Damn Mongolians were camping that cave entry into the next valley the entire day, you can't get friggin anywhere in the world with those damn griefer tribes all over the place" ? -Indigo Seqi
Master Scy	Posted - 2003.06.26 08:34:00 - [11] Let me tell you how I see the situation in Lonetrek: around 100 people lost their ships to player pirates, some more managed to run away or get through the gate in time. Some actually paid the pirates off, or jetissoned part or all of their cargo. Some others decided to take another route between the 2 sections of Lonetrek, taking 50 jumps. Others decided to leave Lonetrek entirely, and some new characters may have been recommended not to even start a character in Lonetrek to make things easier. To me, it seems like life in Lonetrek is now based on avoiding piracy, for those who need to move a lot. Now, I'm not saying that there should be no piracy in empire space, I merely suggest that blockades should not last 3 weeks right in the middle of an empire region. Piracy within empire space should be reduced to quick, risky raids, and blockades of half an hour, not 3 weeks. Edited by: Master Scy on 26/06/2003 08:34:35 ----------------------------- You think Marco Polo said "Damn Mongolians were camping that cave entry into the next valley the entire day, you can't get friggin anywhere in the world with those damn griefer tribes all over the place" ? -Indigo Seqi
Master Scy Caldari	Posted - 2003.06.26 08:34:00 - [12] Let me tell you how I see the situation in Lonetrek: around 100 people lost their ships to player pirates, some more managed to run away or get through the gate in time. Some actually paid the pirates off, or jetissoned part or all of their cargo. Some others decided to take another route between the 2 sections of Lonetrek, taking 50 jumps. Others decided to leave Lonetrek entirely, and some new characters may have been recommended not to even start a character in Lonetrek to make things easier. To me, it seems like life in Lonetrek is now based on avoiding piracy, for those who need to move a lot. Now, I'm not saying that there should be no piracy in empire space, I merely suggest that blockades should not last 3 weeks right in the middle of an empire region. Piracy within empire space should be reduced to quick, risky raids, and blockades of half an hour, not 3 weeks. Edited by: Master Scy on 26/06/2003 08:34:35 ----------------------------- You think Marco Polo said "Damn Mongolians were camping that cave entry into the next valley the entire day, you can't get friggin anywhere in the world with those damn griefer tribes all over the place" ? -Indigo Seqi

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