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Saxon Hawke Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative	Posted - 2010.03.08 16:16:00 - [1] The capsuleer community has been abuzz in recent days with news of the revitalized Federal Defense Union and its recapturing of factional warfare positions throughout the Placid Region. The reclamation of systems under the authority of the Intaki Assembly, and the Intaki home system in particular has been a particularly hot-button topic. Members of the Intaki Prosperity Initiative have been watching these developments with particular interest. Firstly, the IPI announces it full endorsement of the Intaki Assembly and its exercise of its autonomy in declining the encroachment of Federal Naval vessels into its stellar space. In addition, we recognize the validity of the shipping and security contracts between the Assembly and the Ishukone Corporation and MorduÆs Legion, respectively. The IPI has already established a working relationship with Ishukone subsidiary companies doing business in the area and looks forward to continued growth in the development of IntakiÆs economy. The IPI also offers its kindest acknowledgment to those FDU corporation that are honoring the Intaki AssemblyÆs request for a cessation of violence against Ishukone assets in the system. For years, the Intaki Liberation Front has lobbied the Federation Senate and Navy to do more to fight piracy and crime in the Placid Region with little success. We have also worked with the Assembly to provide for increased security within the home system and are pleased to see the Assembly taking the proactive step of hiring the MorduÆs Legion to assist in this matter. Given the historic ties the Legion has to the Intaki homeworld, we see their involvement as the first bridge to a meaningful and peaceful coexistence between the Intaki and Caldari governments. At this time, however, the IPI does have some concern over the effectiveness of the LegionÆs current level of activity in the Intaki System. Heretofore, Legion pilots have apparently been only conducting ôobservationö patrols and not directly engaging those violating Intaki Assembly space directives. The IPI believes the time to watch and report has ended and that Legion pilots should fully exercise their authority to police Intaki stellar space.
Seriphyn Inhonores Gallente Eleutherian Guard	Posted - 2010.03.08 16:35:00 - [2] A disappointing post, M. Hawke, for many reasons. - You have given the Intaki Assembly, Ishukone and Mordu's Legion much credit for their actions, but you have not given the Federation appreciation over the fact that it complied with the sovereign requests of the Intaki Assembly, nor have you given credit to the FDU elements that have also acknowledged the request (found here, here and here) - You accuse the Federation of not providing security for the system, yet congratulate the Intaki Assembly for rejecting the fleet that was going to secure Intaki under Admiral Gouenette. You can no longer hold the Federation to account for lack of security (other than ships already present for external defence) if you are going to look to Mordu's Legion for assistance instead. - You dub that same incoming fleet as an 'encroachment' yet willingly accept Mordu's Legion military vessels in its place instead. Take note that the ties between the Federation and the Intaki are far more stronger as they date back centuries before the Legion ever existed. In the end, M. Hawke, hundreds died in the name of that system, and we pilots worked for almost a year trying to break Provist occupation. While the Federation and her loyalist captains accept the decision of the Intaki Assembly, it is disappointing to see how the Intaki Prosperity Initiative does not care for these sacrifices, nor the fact that the Federation is not attempting to intrude on Intaki's sovereign decision either.
X Gallentius Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2010.03.08 16:43:00 - [3] Originally by: Saxon Hawke At this time, however, the IPI does have some concern over the effectiveness of the LegionÆs current level of activity in the Intaki System. Heretofore, Legion pilots have apparently been only conducting ôobservationö patrols and not directly engaging those violating Intaki Assembly space directives. The IPI believes the time to watch and report has ended and that Legion pilots should fully exercise their authority to police Intaki stellar space. This is no surprise. The Mordus Enforcers are unprofessional at best and incompetent at worst. This pilot conducted many well-documented raids against Ishukone haulers outside the Fedmart station that resulted in absolutely no assistance from Mordus pilots. At times when they did try to engage, their firepower was inadequate to stop even a small Federation Navy frigate. The Intaki Assembly should have seen this coming, and hopefully they correct this problem before the next elections are held.
Hussain Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2010.03.08 17:02:00 - [4] Originally by: Saxon Hawke The reclamation of systems under the authority of the Intaki Assembly, and the Intaki home system in particular has been a particularly hot-button topic. ...the encroachment of Federal Naval vessels into its stellar space. ...proactive step of hiring the MorduÆs Legion to assist in this matter. Given the historic ties the Legion has to the Intaki homeworld, we see their involvement as the first bridge to a meaningful and peaceful coexistence between the Intaki and Caldari governments. At this time, however, the IPI does have some concern over the effectiveness of the LegionÆs current level of activity in the Intaki System. Heretofore, Legion pilots have apparently been only conducting ôobservationö patrols and not directly engaging those violating Intaki Assembly space directives. Systems under the Intaki Assembly rule, plural here, what are those systems mr. Hawke your little list for the "Great Intaki" Nation, your vital space ? I never heard that the Intaki Assembly has any power over any system other than Intaki or made any claim to other systems other than Intaki system. Encroachment means that they were not allowed to be there ? Is not the Intaki Assembly a member of the Federation ? Only lately the Intaki Assembly has requested the Federal Navy not to enter the Intaki system. Mordu's legion is a Caldari organization that has much to account for in Federation High-Sec space but as that is the choice of the Intaki Assembly it must be respected, even if its a totally irresponsible one as it creates a heaven for Caldari operations inside Federation Space and its an affront for all those Federal Navy personnel that died so that the Assembly could have the right of choice. As for the "bridge" I always knew that ILF has becomed a cover for the Caldari since the beginning of the war, I never heard anyone of you calling the invasion by the Caldari navy an "encroachment" or even that the Caldari State should not be in Intaki as you say so often of the Federation. Well it seems that there is still Federal Navy inside the Intaki system defending the FW complexes, so by engaging those "violating Intaki Assembly space directives" are you including them, are you expecting Mordu's to engage the Federal Navy ? Are you expecting that Mordu's will engage any Caldari STPRO, State Navy or whatever if they invade the Intaki system again ? Or are you just assuming that the Intaki Assembly are no longer a part of the Federation and as such no longer has the duty of defend Federation space ?
Val Erian Gallente Azure Horizon Federate Militia	Posted - 2010.03.08 17:11:00 - [5] Quote: the reclamation of systems under the authority of the Intaki Assembly, and the Intaki home system in particular I am unaware of ANY systems other than Intaki itself under the authority of the Intaki Assembly.. Its just another spurious claim by Mr Hawke in his increasingly brazen attempts to spread his false claims to neighboring Solar systems for the mythical "Intaki Sovereignty" In addition Federal Navy isnt encroachment or as others in your allaince have stated ' foreigners' 'Occupiers' and other treasonous terms. Intaki has exercised certain rights it has under the Federation Charter. Rights which it has had for a couple of hundred years. It doesnt give Intaki new non existent rights over its neighbors. Intaki finaly had the right to choose Ishukone and Mordus for certain functions ... prior to liberation Intaki had no option but to accept Ishukone .... If Intaki said no we want the pre existing contract with Federation Navy and Customs honoured by the caldari Military occupation would that have been allowed? I think not. Don't deny others the right to make their own choices by some extraordinary new claims...
Jyotmimana Karana Intaki Pure	Posted - 2010.03.08 17:19:00 - [6] Seriphyn, Did you actually read what Saxon wrote before you replied? 1. He acknowledged the FDU corps that are honoring the Intaki Assemby's requests. (Even if those requests insanely put the Intaki people under the thumb of a Caldari megacorp) 2. He calls out Mordu's pilots for not doing their jobs properly. (Even it is exactly the kind of job performance you can expect Intaki people so totally corrupted by Caldari values.) Saxon is off the mark to put so much faith in dealing with the Intaki. His fascination with the Caldari will likely be his undoing. However, he is spot on with calling the arrival of Federation encroachment. The Navy hasn't done a thing in years to secure the Intaki System, but once the heavy lifting is done they come parading in ready to make a show of things. That's encroachment. Thanks but no thanks. Misguided as they may be, the Intaki Assembly has chosen to hire the Mordu's pilots for defense. They were not only invited to be there, but paid to be there. Saxon's support of the Assembly means that he would welcome their chosen police force. The widows and orphans of your fallen pilots have my sympathies. Their husbands and fathers fought bravely against a vile enemy. Unfortunately, they were fighting for a prize that wasn't theirs to claim and that was their folly. The fact that after the fighting was done, someone in the Federation Naval leadership actually acknowledged the Assembly's autonomy and didn't trample on it is amazing and commendable. In this regard, the Navy has the full support and endorsement of Intaki Pure. I would also encourage the pilots of the FDU to continue their push to eradicate the Caldari. With them out of Intaki, you've no reason to remain here. Leave us be and chase the enemy where ever he may hide. Follow him to the ends of the universe if need be.
Seraphim Risen Minmatar Moira. Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.03.08 17:42:00 - [7] Originally by: Jyotmimana Karana I would also encourage the pilots of the FDU to continue their push to eradicate the Caldari. With them out of Intaki, you've no reason to remain here. Leave us be and chase the enemy where ever he may hide. Follow him to the ends of the universe if need be. Do you really think they won't come back if the FDU leaves? ----------------------------------- The Republic has failed and abandoned its people. I can no longer stand beneath its flag and honestly say I believe in my cause.
Jakiin Khanid Provincial Vanguard	Posted - 2010.03.09 01:25:00 - [8] to the relatives of deceased Federal Pilots who fought for Intaki: I'm very sorry for your loss, but simply because a sacrifice was made does not entitle you to moral rights over what you sacrificed for. Especially not when the sacrifice was of debated usefulness. B ut that's an old argument no one's going to give any new ground over so let's not get stuck in it now. To the hopefuls of the Intaki Liberty bent, remember that simply because the Assembly has decided to continue their obviously lucrative contracts with existing forces does not mean they're about to throw off the percieved 'shackles of indifferent overlords'. Or that the Assembly will draw enough nearby worlds to form a decently sized political entity with them. To the racists: What's your next joke? * Jakiin Torash Holder Heir of the Kingdom 'Pacifist Reclaimer' Uncle Jak wants YOU to join the Khanid Provincial Vanguard!
Havohej Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics	Posted - 2010.03.09 10:02:00 - [9] Originally by: Jakiin To the racists: What's your next joke? A Khanid, a Ni-Kunni and an Ammatar walk into a bar... Oh, you meant the racist Gallente pilots? Nevermind. Du'uma Fiisi is Recruiting
Lyris Nairn Caldari Hashimoto Corporation	Posted - 2010.03.09 19:17:00 - [10] Originally by: Havohej Originally by: Jakiin To the racists: What's your next joke? A Khanid, a Ni-Kunni and an Ammatar walk into a bar... Was Louella there!? If so, that's mixings for a good story.

Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2010.03.10 00:15:00 - [11] BOIL THE INTAKI. BOIL THEM ALLLLLL. Wait, which side are they on?
Mammal Tafren Gallente Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative	Posted - 2010.03.11 00:47:00 - [12] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu BOIL THE INTAKI. BOIL THEM ALLLLLL. Wait, which side are they on? We're on our side, Uncle Istvaan. Obviously.
Sanya Gallente Intaki Liberation Front	Posted - 2010.03.11 07:38:00 - [13] Intaki liberated? You seem so, so keen on using that word. Is it to imply that the Intaki Liberation Front has failed? Where was the Federal Navy when seven pirates last night engaged our pilots, harassing the Astral mining station by destroying the vessels surrounding it, making the people inside feel threatened. Intaki is not at all liberated. Far, far from it. You have taken an area in space where only you and the Caldari ever go, and thats pretty much it. Its magically liberated. We are all safe now. You just dont seem to see the big picture here. This isnt about the Caldari or the Feds. This is about the security of the home system of the Intaki. Are you so blinded by your rage against each others races, that you cant see the piracy that takes place in Intaki? Because it seems to me that when a couple of pirate Battlecruisers and Battleships come parading in, I dont see much of this "liberation" were supposed to experience. I do not concider Intaki liberated until I see its security level increased to a least 5.0, and that we have ships stationed at each gate. But all right, I will give you this: the pillbox was step 1. Good job. Are you ready now for step 2? "Is this what you call a diplomatic solution?" "No, this is what we call Agressive Negotiations."
Jianni Sotaku Sotaku Estate	Posted - 2010.03.11 07:51:00 - [14] Originally by: Sanya Where was the Federal Navy when seven pirates last night engaged our pilots, harassing the Astral mining station by destroying the vessels surrounding it, making the people inside feel threatened. Back in high security space, as per Assembly orders?
Seriphyn Inhonores Gallente Eleutherian Guard	Posted - 2010.03.11 08:40:00 - [15] Originally by: Sanya Intaki liberated? You seem so, so keen on using that word. Is it to imply that the Intaki Liberation Front has failed? Where was the Federal Navy when seven pirates last night engaged our pilots, harassing the Astral mining station by destroying the vessels surrounding it, making the people inside feel threatened. Intaki is not at all liberated. Far, far from it. You have taken an area in space where only you and the Caldari ever go, and thats pretty much it. Its magically liberated. We are all safe now. You just dont seem to see the big picture here. This isnt about the Caldari or the Feds. This is about the security of the home system of the Intaki. Are you so blinded by your rage against each others races, that you cant see the piracy that takes place in Intaki? Because it seems to me that when a couple of pirate Battlecruisers and Battleships come parading in, I dont see much of this "liberation" were supposed to experience. I do not concider Intaki liberated until I see its security level increased to a least 5.0, and that we have ships stationed at each gate. But all right, I will give you this: the pillbox was step 1. Good job. Are you ready now for step 2? As Jianni has already mentioned, the Intaki Assembly has very publicly refused the support of the Federation Navy in terms of security. The only presence in the system of the Navy is for the purposes of external defence. Any issues of piracy and policing must now be brought up with Ishukone and Mordu's Legion from now on.
Seraphim Risen Minmatar Moira. Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.03.11 14:36:00 - [16] Oh no you forget Seriphyn they can't possibly fathom their problems not being someone else's fault! That might imply accountability! IPI can't have that, nooooooooo. ----------------------------------- The Republic has failed and abandoned its people. I can no longer stand beneath its flag and honestly say I believe in my cause.
Hussain Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2010.03.11 15:34:00 - [17] Edited by: Hussain on 11/03/2010 15:37:18 Edited by: Hussain on 11/03/2010 15:36:41 Originally by: Sanya Intaki liberated? You seem so, so keen on using that word. Is it to imply that the Intaki Liberation Front has failed? Where was the Federal Navy when seven pirates last night engaged our pilots, harassing the Astral mining station by destroying the vessels surrounding it, making the people inside feel threatened. Intaki is not at all liberated. Far, far from it. You have taken an area in space where only you and the Caldari ever go, and thats pretty much it. Its magically liberated. We are all safe now. You just dont seem to see the big picture here. This isnt about the Caldari or the Feds. This is about the security of the home system of the Intaki. Are you so blinded by your rage against each others races, that you cant see the piracy that takes place in Intaki? Because it seems to me that when a couple of pirate Battlecruisers and Battleships come parading in, I dont see much of this "liberation" were supposed to experience. I do not concider Intaki liberated until I see its security level increased to a least 5.0, and that we have ships stationed at each gate. But all right, I will give you this: the pillbox was step 1. Good job. Are you ready now for step 2? And I thought that the Inataki Assembly and their "new associates" had no need for the Federal Navy. Was I mistaken ? About the pilbox bussiness yes we did it did you help ? Dont think so, quite the contrary, so what gives you the right of demanding that we go to "Step 2" whatver it meens ?
X Gallentius Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2010.03.11 17:08:00 - [18] Yes this is confusing. I thought the Mordus Escorts were providing internal security for Intaki? In any case, this pilot pledges to engage pirates risking his own ships and isk whenever he's in Intaki. I hope IPI members do the same.
Andreus LeHane Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.03.11 18:27:00 - [19] Edited by: Andreus LeHane on 11/03/2010 18:27:13 Originally by: Sanya I do not concider Intaki liberated until I see its security level increased to a least 5.0, and that we have ships stationed at each gate. Then take it up with the Mordu's Legion, you silly cow. Don't you dare come to us whining about the security of your system when you and the IPI have made it very clear that the Federation Navy isn't responsible for its security anymore. You guys are so busy rejoicing about the Intaki Assembly throwing the FedNav security fleet out that you've forgotten that you've also thrown away any right whatsoever to use one of your favourite whines, which is that the Federation isn't doing enough to secure the Intaki system. Your government has made it very clear it's not our right to police your system anymore. You want the right to whine to the Federation about the security of your system? Break contract with the Mordus and hire our navy again. Otherwise, take it to the Legion or shut the **** up. -----
Saxon Hawke Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative	Posted - 2010.03.11 23:02:00 - [20] The Intaki Prosperity Initiative does take the security of Intaki space to be a very serious matter and our combat pilots devote their time to this endeavor. Sanya is one of our top pilots and she is very passionate about this matter. However, she was incorrect in faulting the Navy for their absence in the recent encounter. It is quite true that the matter is no longer the Navy's to deal with. Official IPI concerns regarding security enforcement in Intaki space are being addressed to the Assembly and local Mordu's Legion commanders. The IPI continues to offer its respect to FDU pilots who honor the Assembly's request for a ceasefire in Intaki space and respectfully requests that all able-bodied pilots in the area do their part to help turn the tide against the rampant piracy that plagues the region.

Jyotmimana Karana Intaki Pure	Posted - 2010.03.12 16:58:00 - [21] Saxon, Why do you go out of your way to placate this FDU pilots? Don't you get it? They hate us. They will never work with us. The Intaki Assembly is finally standing up for itself and for our people. Now is the time to show the Federation that the Intaki do not want or need them. Give up on your fool's errand of a peaceful separation. You have a squadron of warriors at your command. Give the order that you know in your heart must be made. The brave pilots of the IPI have shown that they will not yield Intaki Space to terrorists or thugs, pirates or privateers. Show the universe now that they will not tolerate Federation Interlopers or State Expansionists. You hold the leash on the dogs of war, let them loose on the enemies of the Intaki!
Andreus LeHane Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.03.12 17:13:00 - [22] Edited by: Andreus LeHane on 12/03/2010 17:13:17 I don't think you understand, do you, Karana? This isn't about you. This is not about your dogmatic misinterpretation of our noble and ancient religion. This is not about your blinkered dreams of आर्य and the "master race" and genetic purity and stone-cold unabashed racism. This is not about your paranoia and your hatred. This is about the hopes and dreams of Intaki everywhere - not just on our homeworld, but across the planets of the Federation and further afield still. And almost all of them - even the separatists - would be appalled by your single-minded distaste for others. I've seen some members of the IPI say as much - it's actually becoming so clear that you're an embarrassment to the separatist movement that I can't help but wonder whether you're a strawman in someone's back pocket who's being paid a lot of money to discredit them. Intaki Prime belongs to all Intaki, not just the Intaki who live on it. It's our ancestral home, the root of all our traditions and the resting place of our forefathers, and many who are not Intaki also live upon it, in peace. Would you still the voices of our brothers throughout the cosmos, or those of the honoured foreigners who have come to Intaki in peace to build homes and lives and raise their families? Howe very much like the tyrants you profess to hate you sound. -----
Jon Engel Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative	Posted - 2010.03.13 11:40:00 - [23] Originally by: Jyotmimana Karana Saxon, Why do you go out of your way to placate this FDU pilots? Don't you get it? They hate us. They will never work with us. The Intaki Assembly is finally standing up for itself and for our people. Now is the time to show the Federation that the Intaki do not want or need them. Give up on your fool's errand of a peaceful separation. You have a squadron of warriors at your command. Give the order that you know in your heart must be made. The brave pilots of the IPI have shown that they will not yield Intaki Space to terrorists or thugs, pirates or privateers. Show the universe now that they will not tolerate Federation Interlopers or State Expansionists. You hold the leash on the dogs of war, let them loose on the enemies of the Intaki! I am not sure you realize who the real enemies of the Intaki People are to begin with.
Andreus LeHane Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.03.13 11:48:00 - [24] Jon, I would imagine it roughly equates to "everyone who isn't a pure-bred Intaki racist". You will, I hope, give me credit where it's due and note that I don't attempt to associate his brand of Amarrian-style fascism with the IPI. -----
Jon Engel Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative	Posted - 2010.03.13 12:15:00 - [25] Originally by: Andreus LeHane Jon, I would imagine it roughly equates to "everyone who isn't a pure-bred Intaki racist". You will, I hope, give me credit where it's due and note that I don't attempt to associate his brand of Amarrian-style fascism with the IPI. I imagine someone else will so why worry about it...
Tahj Minmatar Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2010.03.13 15:39:00 - [26] Edited by: Tahj on 13/03/2010 15:40:49 Originally by: Sanya Intaki liberated? You seem so, so keen on using that word. Is it to imply that the Intaki Liberation Front has failed? Where was the Federal Navy when seven pirates last night engaged our pilots, harassing the Astral mining station by destroying the vessels surrounding it, making the people inside feel threatened. Intaki is not at all liberated. Far, far from it. You have taken an area in space where only you and the Caldari ever go, and thats pretty much it. Its magically liberated. We are all safe now. You just dont seem to see the big picture here. This isnt about the Caldari or the Feds. This is about the security of the home system of the Intaki. Are you so blinded by your rage against each others races, that you cant see the piracy that takes place in Intaki? Because it seems to me that when a couple of pirate Battlecruisers and Battleships come parading in, I dont see much of this "liberation" were supposed to experience. I do not concider Intaki liberated until I see its security level increased to a least 5.0, and that we have ships stationed at each gate. But all right, I will give you this: the pillbox was step 1. Good job. Are you ready now for step 2? Originally by: Saxon Hawke The Intaki Prosperity Initiative does take the security of Intaki space to be a very serious matter and our combat pilots devote their time to this endeavor. Sanya is one of our top pilots and she is very passionate about this matter. However, she was incorrect in faulting the Navy for their absence in the recent encounter. It is quite true that the matter is no longer the Navy's to deal with. Official IPI concerns regarding security enforcement in Intaki space are being addressed to the Assembly and local Mordu's Legion commanders. The IPI continues to offer its respect to FDU pilots who honor the Assembly's request for a ceasefire in Intaki space and respectfully requests that all able-bodied pilots in the area do their part to help turn the tide against the rampant piracy that plagues the region. wow you have been so brainwashed by ILF propaganda you did not even take the time to see what was really going on. For weeks the FDU had a strong presence in Intaki. We not only fought the Caldari but also the pirates. We moved our assets out there and even brought in commerce. For some time there Intaki was relatively "safe" but you asked us to leave....so guess what we did. MAKE UP YOUR DAMN MIND! Oh and Hawke if you truely want to be a separate entity from the Federation then don't beg us to protect your systems when the pirates come back, stand on your own two feet. You and the ILF as a whole has always pointed fingers....take a look in the mirror and stand by your choices.
Sanya Gallente Intaki Liberation Front	Posted - 2010.03.16 10:48:00 - [27] Edited by: Sanya on 16/03/2010 10:48:46 I was not begging for your help, and fail to see how you got that out of my message. I was merely stating that you claimed Intaki to be liberated, yet pirates still roam. But I was misinformed and I stand corrected. But perhaps we can refrain from name calling and continue in a more civil manner? "Is this what you call a diplomatic solution?" "No, this is what we call Agressive Negotiations."
Ammon Dei Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2010.03.16 16:36:00 - [28] Originally by: Saxon Hawke The Intaki Prosperity Initiative does take the security of Intaki space to be a very serious matter and our combat pilots devote their time to this endeavor. The IPI continues to offer its respect to FDU pilots who honor the Assembly's request for a ceasefire in Intaki space and respectfully requests that all able-bodied pilots in the area do their part to help turn the tide against the rampant piracy that plagues the region. You can not have it both ways, the Intaki assembly chose their path. Several members of the FDU militia had intentions of setting up a forward base of operations in the system of Intaki. To help bring stability to the region. Based upon changes issued by the Intaki assembly those plans have been scrapped. If the people of Intaki want the pirates out they will have to remove them on their own. I for one will not go out of my way to help them any longer. For now the system of Intaki is in Gallente hands, we will see that it remains so for as long as we can.
Syyl'ara	Posted - 2010.03.16 17:31:00 - [29] Originally by: Ammon Dei You can not have it both ways, the Intaki assembly chose their path. Several members of the FDU militia had intentions of setting up a forward base of operations in the system of Intaki. To help bring stability to the region. Based upon changes issued by the Intaki assembly those plans have been scrapped. If the people of Intaki want the pirates out they will have to remove them on their own. I for one will not go out of my way to help them any longer. For now the system of Intaki is in Gallente hands, we will see that it remains so for as long as we can. One cannot explain away centuries of neglect by citing events that came after them. Perhaps educational standards were higher in the capsuleer sponsor program I attended, but a simple understanding of aetiology would seem to suggest that the securing of peacekeeping forces and exercise of (constitutionally mandated) rights followed the failure of the previous entity to secure such. I also fail to see why the Federation forces could not simply establish a base in a nearby system. This seems much more like a case of wounded pride than righteous indignation. If removing piracy and bringing security and stability to the region were truly important to you, no minor setback like this would have prompted such reactions as the typical "packing up my toys and going home" response one expects from poorly-raised children. The peacekeeping forces of Mordu's have been openly aggressed, they take casualties, they lose crews and other assets, yet they stay. Your wound is pride, theirs is in blood, you have chosen to flee from further injury while they remain to do the job they were hired for. I think the Intaki people can clearly see which entity will better serve their long-term security needs...that is unless you'd like to wipe your eyes, come out of your corner, and actually do something to change the situation instead of creating the next excuse to not participate...while patting yourself on the back for finally picking up the mess you let get created after 6 months of waiting.
BloodBird Nova Foundry	Posted - 2010.03.16 18:47:00 - [30] Originally by: Syyl'ara One cannot explain away centuries of neglect by citing events that came after them. Perhaps educational standards were higher in the capsuleer sponsor program I attended, but a simple understanding of aetiology would seem to suggest that the securing of peacekeeping forces and exercise of (constitutionally mandated) rights followed the failure of the previous entity to secure such. I also fail to see why the Federation forces could not simply establish a base in a nearby system. This seems much more like a case of wounded pride than righteous indignation. If removing piracy and bringing security and stability to the region were truly important to you, no minor setback like this would have prompted such reactions as the typical "packing up my toys and going home" response one expects from poorly-raised children. The peacekeeping forces of Mordu's have been openly aggressed (in some cases by Federal forces who claim they are interested in system security, no less), they take casualties, they lose crews and other assets, yet they stay. Your wound is pride, theirs is in blood, you have chosen to flee from further injury while they remain to do the job they were hired for. I think the Intaki people can clearly see which entity will better serve their long-term security needs...that is unless you'd like to wipe your eyes, come out of your corner, and actually do something to change the situation instead of creating the next excuse to not participate...while patting yourself on the back for finally picking up the mess you let get created after 6 months of waiting. You are complaining to the wrong entity here, Ms. Ayyl'ara. The Federal navy don't patrol Intaki as per Assembly request, a request made upon signing the federal membership charter and a request that remains unaltered to this day. As such, it is not the job of the navy to police the system, merely it is their job to man tactical sites as per the dictates of CONCORD regarding the empyrian war. Mordu's also, are not about patrolling the system, at least not yet. Mordu's legion forces are present to safeguard Ishukone transports in the system. You are effectively crying to the members of the FDU here that they are cowards for doing what they are told. "You packed up your toys like children and left". This seems unacceptable to me, as the FDU fough long and hard to bring federal rule and rights (among them the right to vote, much good that does now) back to the system. The thanks they got for that was a note that they were neither needed nor welcome. This effectively cancelled any plan they had of stationing forces in the system as the Assembly had basicly told them to bugger off. So they did, mostly. After all, there are more systems in need of liberation out there, and Intaki are not really that special. I have no doubht in my mind however the FDU will be found there to defend sites on occation. That too, is after all their jobs. The Intaki people can clearly see that their wish was honoured, as it has ALWAYS been. The Intaki people can hire whoever they please to actually police the space in their system whenever they please, if they do. The Intaki people know full well that IF they decide tomorrow is a good day to welcome back the federal navy with open, eager arms, the system's security-rating will soon improve. IF the Intaki people wanted Mordu to actually police their system, not just guard a handfull of haulers coming and going, they would. In the meantime, trash-talking the Federal Defence Union for doing their jobs and honoring the representatives of some of the people they fight and die for, is not going to get you any friends in the Federation, and I don't expect to many elsewere either. On a completely unrelated note, I'd like to congratulate you on retaining your employment in Aliastra for over a year, Ms. Syyl'ara. That is impressive, by my standards. ------------------------------------- Alexander Kamy· Allisieer - CO-founder, NOVAF



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