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NightmareX
Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.13 09:43:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 13/03/2010 09:44:49
Originally by: Head Boy
Originally by: NightmareX
Yeah, your deciding how a ship works in level 4 mission by looking at it stats.............
Yes, that is obvious. It is a well known fact that 99% of missions (bar maybe the extra room in extravaganza) don't require above a 400-500 dps tank in there specific fields
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That's something you have to try out before you can say anything about how this ship is in level 4 missions.
Not really, missions are exactly the same every time you do them. From what i recall you will have a lot of travelling around and a lot of wasted time not firing in a ship like that.
Quote: As far as i see, a CNR and a Raven that i have been using quite alot in level 4 missions earlier doesn't come close to the Loki when it's about staying to do missions because it's not boring to do level 4 missions in this Loki...........
Maybe if you spent 2.5 billion isk on your raven/ cnr then you would have a different idea on how those ships perform in a mission environment as you would not have to warp out every so often.
Quote: EDIT: Just to let you know this to, if you haven't got it already. But this Loki is universal for all missions. You don't need to change out anything on the setup / tank just because you get missions that does other damage types than Guristas do for example.
The shield tank is an active omni tank, but because the shield resists are so high already to all damage types, then there isn't any point at all to use mission specific shield hardeners on this Loki.
Yes he realize's that, so does everyone else. I don't know why you think unfitting and fitting 4 modules every time you dock makes a ship with several hundred less dps in damage more appealing. (Someone even posted in this thread how 2x DG invulns make it possible to tank any mission in a raven).
I'm not having a go at you, i'm simply stating where your logic is flawed. If you enjoy running missions with this setup then good for you and i'm glad it has worked for you (but imagine how much more money you could have made if you did the spent the same amount of time in a raven/ cnr). I personally think it would be better to auction/ contract off these modules separately. You would probably make more money and get it over and done with quicker. Never the less here is a free bump :)
P.s Btw, wouldn't a macharial been much better for this type of thing, like running around and blowing everything up close and personal?
1. Your never gonna tank a full aggro in the missions where there are tons of rats in some levels with 400-500 DPS tank.
2. It's not that much wasted time for traveling, since the ship is pretty fast and pretty agile.
3. I have owned a Gist X-Type shield tanked CNR earlier, and yeah, it's a little better, but what does a full Gist X-Type shield tank cost in compared to my shield tank today?. But even if it was a little better than my Loki, the ship was much much more boring to use in missions. So that's something you guys don't get. Alot of fun in missions with smaller ships -> CNR / Raven / Golem. So no matter how much better the missile spammer ships are than my Loki, it doesn't help when i will just stop doing missions because using missile spammer ships makes me extremely bored in missions.
4. Not everyone is doing 8766749 missions everyday. Like me, i wasn't doing that many missions everyday in the end, but i still earned the isk i wanted to earn. If you have a goal to earn in isk to a mothership fast, then i agree that isk / hour thingie is good. But if your just doing missions to just earn some isk here and there, then i don't care about the isk / hour thing.
I fully see where you guys want to go, but the fact is still there, for me, if i'm doing level 4 missions in a CNR / Golem or a Raven, then i get bored really fast and will just end up by not doing missions at all.
But with the Loki, i can keep doing it forever, since it's a fun ship to use. And by that, i earn more isk.
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NightmareX
Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.13 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Head Boy P.s Btw, wouldn't a macharial been much better for this type of thing, like running around and blowing everything up close and personal?
It is, but that will be with a shield tank. But the shield tank on the Machariel will never be as good as the Loki's tank with my setup, simply because your tank is worser and your sig raduis are much higher, so you take more damage from the rats.
But then, you have much more range and ALOT more DPS with the Machariel and it's 800mm guns, so you can reduce the damages alot by keeping distance and by killing the rats pretty damn fast.
The only ship i was considering on getting over the Loki, was a Vargur. But it wasn't really needed, because the Loki is good enough if your just doing missions to earn some isk here and there.
If your a pure isk / hour mission runner, then go for another ship. Simple as that.
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Soros
D00M.
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Posted - 2010.03.13 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Saul Reaver Guys, He's trying to sell his ship. Plain and simple. If you don't like his set up then don't bid. Simplez. You trolls make me laugh. got nothing better to do other than disrupt other peoples sales threads.
Saul if you actually knew this guy in game you would understand why :)
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Jonsemann
Caldari Sprengt Lutefisk
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Posted - 2010.03.13 15:31:00 -
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Friendly bump :) |
NightmareX
Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.13 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Soros
Originally by: Saul Reaver Guys, He's trying to sell his ship. Plain and simple. If you don't like his set up then don't bid. Simplez. You trolls make me laugh. got nothing better to do other than disrupt other peoples sales threads.
Saul if you actually knew this guy in game you would understand why :)
Heh, you don't seems to know me that good ingame anymore.
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Thistlefury
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Posted - 2010.03.13 16:00:00 -
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What is it with you and "Full Room Agro" ? This is not the way to do missions. Missions are about making isk, not having fun.
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.03.13 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Thistlefury What is it with you and "Full Room Agro" ? This is not the way to do missions. Missions are about making isk, not having fun.
hint: if you make missions a bit more fun, earning money suddenly isnt so boring anymore. ;)
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NightmareX
Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.13 16:56:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 13/03/2010 16:57:12
Originally by: Thistlefury What is it with you and "Full Room Agro" ? This is not the way to do missions. Missions are about making isk, not having fun.
Well to make it clear. If i don't have fun doing missions, then i wont earn much isk either, because i will get so bored that i will just stop doing missions. But if i have fun, even if i don't earn the most isk / hour, i will still earn butt load more isk because i can keep doing missions forever because it's fun.
But hey, thanks for the bump.
Oh also, one day left to the end time.
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NightmareX
Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.14 11:05:00 -
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Bump. Only 6 hours left before the sale of this Loki is over.
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NightmareX
Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.14 15:02:00 -
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2 hours left. So if you want a complete Loki before it's to late, then hurry up and bid.
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NightmareX
Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.14 16:01:00 -
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1 hour left.
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NightmareX
Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.14 16:34:00 -
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30 mins left. Hurry up if you want a nice looking ship and a ship that is fun to use in level 4 missions.
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NightmareX
Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.14 16:45:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 14/03/2010 16:48:54 15 mins left. This will be my last bump reply in here. So if i don't get any bids or get to my reserve price in 15 mins, then i will either set the modules on the ship on a new sell topic, or i might also do a Lottery on the whole ship.
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NightmareX
Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.14 17:05:00 -
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Alright, this topic can be closed now.
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Oshaga Nanir
Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.03.14 21:38:00 -
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Pity bump and free NightmareX lol --- Happy hauling in 0.0, out. |
Wiaf
Resonance. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.03.14 22:22:00 -
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I use a domi for missions.
oh and INB4CLEANING --------------------------------------------
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