There is a certain type of Alliance that is actually good to declare war on and usually results in "fun" wars. It's the generic, non-focused, all-purpose highsec alliance with a member count between 80 and 300. Because they aren't focused on one particular thing they will be bored shitless and be looking for something to do and because they are an alliance the "leadership" will feel obligated to try and get people to shoot at you, which is what you want.

It's much more nuanced than that in reality and I could go into pretty excessive detail about what makes a corp or alliance good to declare war on, but those entities do exist.

The real problem with the whole system is that as it stands there's absolutely no reason why anyone in highsec other than a dedicated highsec wardec corp would ever want to declare a war and fight over something because you are just paying money to flag yourself to get utterly raped by half a dozen griefing corps who will join your war as defenders.

Which sucks **** because people in highsec need to be shooting each other more often.

Wait...CCP has a "Quality Assurance Team" ?????

Thanks for completely brushing off a real bug that actually exists because you don't think its there. Real professional.

Whilst its probably not actually a goonspiracy (on this occasion) it is a situation that may well come about due to a horribly-rushed set of changes to the 1.0 wardec mechanics (due in part) to the complaining of large alliances getting (either "dogpiled" or "suffering from social consequence") depending on which side of the issue you are on.

For the record, I've not personally seen this bug (if it does indeed exist) because the cost of allowing allies into our existing war is the entirely valid and developer-intended princely sum of 10 Trillion ISK

Confirmed as working as intended.

Whilst its probably not actually a goonspiracy (on this occasion) it is a situation that may well come about due to a horribly-rushed set of changes to the 1.0 wardec mechanics (due in part) to the complaining of large alliances getting (either "dogpiled" or "suffering from social consequence") depending on which side of the issue you are on.

For the record, I've not personally seen this bug (if it does indeed exist) because the cost of allowing allies into our existing war is the entirely valid and developer-intended princely sum of 10 Trillion ISK

Confirmed as working as intended.

We keep asking for evidence of this so-called "complaining of large alliances" but you keep not showing it at all. Why is that?

We keep asking for evidence of this so-called "complaining of large alliances" but you keep not showing it at all. Why is that?

Your heroic forum poster "lord zim" has already tried and failed that line many times. Go and read the other thread on the subject where plenty of information is provided including podcast where your favoured CSM talks about 1.0 is "unfair" to large alliances and pledges to get it "fixed" (presumably so the largest alliances in Eve are no longer disadvantaged by the social consequences of their unpopularity in hisec).

I refuse to show you anything because I am a giant Jade Constantine.

You're like the mildly autistic kid in fourth grade who just doesn't quite get that every time you open your mouth, the entire class laughs at you.

Here lapine, I threw his post through babelfish for you.

We keep asking for evidence of this so-called "complaining of large alliances" but you keep not showing it at all. Why is that?

I'm not sure I agree with the conclusions in this forum post:
http://www.lostineve.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=93

They strike me as pretty alarmist. But remember the conspiracy theory about how the war-dec allies system was "really" being nerfed to benefit large null-sec alliances at the expense of smaller high-sec corps who were supposed to be griefed by them? Listen to the pod-cast this forum post points you toward and you get an unlikely source of evidence: CSM member Two step.

Does Two step really say the things that this forum post says he does? In my opinion... no. But it's an interesting listen nonetheless, and worth your time if you're following this topic. The relevant section of the pod-cast starts 45 minutes in, so download the MP3.

This code wasn't rushed at all, was it?

Ten ******* trillion isk. o_O


I don't see a decimal point on that screenshot, dear Mr. CCP whoeveryouare.


*free bump because deserved*

That's from Jester's blog: http://jestertrek.blogspot.com.au/2012/07/june-junk-drawer.html

Make of it what you will, but at least listen to the recording where Two Step leaks the implications that the CSM was pressuring CCP to change the wardec mechanics so that hisec alliances wouldn't end up dog piling on wardecs started by null sec blocs. Of course the words are open to interpretation.

Heheheh, no wonder EVE is so full of bugs if "Quality Assurance" is in denial all the time. Denial is a natural defense mechanism, it's wired into the human brain. Anyone walking into a parking lot where their car has been stolen will not believe it and choose rather to look in places they are sure they didn't park, before accepting it has been stolen. The first word people say when informed of the death of a loved one is "No!".

You'd think that people who are paid to find and report problems would be able to work past this, keep an open mind, and concentrate on their jobs. Denial really helps no one.

ITT EVE-O posters show they have no sense of humor.

Wait...CCP has a "Quality Assurance Team" ?????


There's a job to have....I could just set an autoresponder to say "The logs show nothing" or "Your reading it wrong".......

Your heroic forum poster "lord zim" has already tried and failed that line many times. Go and read the other thread on the subject where plenty of information is provided including podcast where your favoured CSM talks about 1.0 is "unfair" to large alliances and pledges to get it "fixed" (presumably so the largest alliances in Eve are no longer disadvantaged by the social consequences of their unpopularity in hisec).

High sec wars are so cute.

"Will you please have a war with me?"

[ ] Yes [ ] No

High sec wars are so cute.

"Will you please have a war with me?"

[ ] Yes [ ] No

I derped because I didn't know you were referencing Jade's war specifically. If I knew that, I would have just said that this is working as intended.

I derped because I didn't know you were referencing Jade's war specifically. If I knew that, I would have just said that this is working as intended.

Thanks for completely brushing off a real bug that actually exists because you don't think its there. Real professional.