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Garak Jakobs
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Posted - 2010.03.11 09:50:00 -
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I wanna start doing some wormhole sites just for something different.
I have a Proteus to use for this and use it with huge effect in missions. A great ship in my opinion, got the PVE fit nailed perfectly.
I've been running fits through EFT to minimise cost when sorting the ship out for WHs. My question to you guys is this on the defensive front do i :
Use Nanobot Injector dual repper no plates
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Augmented plating with 1600 rolled tungsten plate and 1 repper
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Total buffer fit same as above but 2x1600 tungsten plate with trimarks.
Im assuming this will be a 2 man fleet other man in passive Drake.
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Cyhawk
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Posted - 2010.03.11 12:08:00 -
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Well, since no one else has responded:
PvE is all about sustained tank. Additional Buffers does nothing but reduce your sustained tank. (There are only a couple of applications where a Buffer tank for PvE works, When you need it, you'll know) Since your going against sleepers, a strong sustained omni-tank will work the best for you.
Also for being only 4 months old with Cruiser 5, Im also going to assume your missing some key support skills that need to be trained, so uh, be careful?
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Baron Agamemnon
Caldari Holy Grail Construction
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Posted - 2010.03.11 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Cyhawk
PvE is all about sustained tank.
Not really.
Dead rats needs no tanking is my motto. Works fine. Bot in WH and lv 4  --- "And thus, another of the world's dreamers died, taking his dreams with him. Just as John Lennon wanted world peace, Gerald Bull simply wanted a gun big enough to fire **** into space." |

Aera Aiana
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Posted - 2010.03.11 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Baron Agamemnon Not really.
Dead rats needs no tanking is my motto. Works fine. Bot in WH and lv 4 
Sure, but I think all he means is sustained tanking > buffer tank in PVE. Even with ****loads of damage you don't want to dock up and tempfit reppers all the time - or pay the bill.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.03.11 13:47:00 -
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Sure, but i think all he means is armor plates are worthless on a PvE fit.
My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |

Baron Agamemnon
Caldari Holy Grail Construction
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Posted - 2010.03.11 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula Sure, but i think all he means is armor plates are worthless on a PvE fit.
Indeed. I am a shield tanker, I forget the armor tankers, but fitting a rep and damage mods works as well  --- "And thus, another of the world's dreamers died, taking his dreams with him. Just as John Lennon wanted world peace, Gerald Bull simply wanted a gun big enough to fire **** into space." |

Claska
Amarr The 8th Tribe Seraphim
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Posted - 2010.03.11 14:41:00 -
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i thought fighting sleepers was akin to PVP?
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.03.11 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Claska i thought fighting sleepers was akin to PVP?
But anytime you're fighting ships one after another for prolonged periods you want to have high rep amounts and be somewhat cap stable. Armor plates and shield extenders are only delaying the inevitable if you're taking more damage than you can rep, and you'll find yourself warping out over and over, or worse.
Having more armor or shield HP comes in handy for your average PvP because you just have to outlive one, maybe two, ships.
My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |

Turiel Demon
Minmatar Celtic industries F A I L
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Posted - 2010.03.11 14:58:00 -
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If you're taking on C5 or C6, you won't be using any local active reps, you'll want all the buffer you can get and as much RR as you can sustain. For everything else buffer is useless in PVE.
If you can't beat Eris, join her, hmmm that sounded so much better in my head - Cortes Don't be greedy :P -Cap |

Garak Jakobs
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Posted - 2010.03.11 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: Garak Jakobs on 11/03/2010 22:11:25 Ah I am posting as an alt toon :) So im a bit older than 4 months old ;) Im a 07 char on my main toon
Thanks for the replies been quite helpful. I believe to have worked out a good setup with just under 600 DPS Omni tank.
I do however have another question which I came across today. I found a class 2 so in i went and immediately did a 360 scan at full range. Nothing was there and no POS so i thought that was great then I flew to planet 1 and repeated only to find a POS and a command ship and a drake.
Why does directional scan only go upto just over 2 million km?
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente C C P

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Posted - 2010.03.11 22:36:00 -
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Aqriue
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Posted - 2010.03.11 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Garak Jakobs Edited by: Garak Jakobs on 11/03/2010 22:11:25 Ah I am posting as an alt toon :) So im a bit older than 4 months old ;) Im a 07 char on my main toon
Thanks for the replies been quite helpful. I believe to have worked out a good setup with just under 600 DPS Omni tank.
I do however have another question which I came across today. I found a class 2 so in i went and immediately did a 360 scan at full range. Nothing was there and no POS so i thought that was great then I flew to planet 1 and repeated only to find a POS and a command ship and a drake.
Why does directional scan only go upto just over 2 million km?
1. Proteus might not be a good idea for worm holes. Sleepers go ape**** over drones and will change targets to nuke them even if you have aggro. 2. Directional scanner is 14 AU, just click the size limit and hold down 9 until it makes a buzzing noise once the character limit is reached. Then it will default to the max size of 2.7 ? billion kms
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Asajj Darkness
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Posted - 2010.03.12 00:46:00 -
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What is your Proteus fit? I fly a Tengu right now but have an alt that a few days away for Gally cruiser V, so looking for a good WH fitting.
Thanks
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Garak Jakobs
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Posted - 2010.03.12 09:21:00 -
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Well I believe this to be a good fit after looking at it again last, I did this as I can lower the DPS as I never go solo and go for a little more tank. I swapped out the 2 magstabs for tank. Without the 2nd repper running its cap stable.
[Proteus] Capacitor Power Relay II 'Meditation' Medium Armor Repairer I 'Meditation' Medium Armor Repairer I Armor EM Hardener II Armor Explosive Hardener II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 50 Stasis Webifier II Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Core Scanner Probe I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Proteus Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors
Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5
Remember this is for a 2-3 man WH fleet so it doesnt have to be massive DPS. However skill depending If you use 2 faction magstabs I think its enough DPS to do class 1-2-3 with relative ease.
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kingofallgimps
Minmatar 11th Gimp Inc
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Posted - 2010.03.12 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: Baron Agamemnon
Originally by: Cyhawk
PvE is all about sustained tank.
Not really.
Dead rats needs no tanking is my motto. Works fine. Bot in WH and lv 4 
Spoken like a man who has never tried more than a C2 ^^.
Run wormhole stuff in an active, as-near-to PVP fit as possible. Prot is good, but blaster fits have trouble sometimes, as if you get webbed by a trigger which happens to be a cruiser orbitting at 15km; no damage to it, cant kill it off to finish your current spawn.
I'd recomend (if ur havin to use a prot) an active tank which runs nearly cap stable, put a cap injector on for when a pilgrim uncloaks on you, and run with a mate of course. |

Garak Jakobs
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Posted - 2010.03.13 09:04:00 -
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Thank you for the insight guys. I would be using blasters wouldnt i be able to get upto the orbiting guys? The ship goes 600 M/S? I know frigates are crazy fast but cruisers too?
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