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Eddie Gordo Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.11 20:54:00 - [1] Edited by: Eddie Gordo on 11/03/2010 21:05:46 It has been rumoured since fanfest that Dust 514 would be using the Unreal 3 engine for Dust 514, CCP have recently confirmed that this is the case. They have also revealed that Dust 514 will also feature technology from geometrics called "englighten". Enlighten is basicly a really cool dynamic lighting technology that was first demonstrated in the Incarna (walking in stations) preview. Dust514 \| Podlogs \| Pluggit
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2010.03.11 21:02:00 - [2] Originally by: Eddie Gordo It has been rumoured since fanfest that Dust 514 would be using the Unreal 3 engine for Dust 514, CCP have recently confirmed that this is the case. They have also revealed that Dust 514 will also feature technology from geometrics called "englighten". Enlighten is basicly a really cool dynamic lighting technology that was first demonstrated in the Encarna (walking in stations) preview. Its Incarna. not Encarna. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Eddie Gordo Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.11 21:05:00 - [3] balls... thankyou :) Dust514 \| Podlogs \| Pluggit
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2010.03.11 21:08:00 - [4] Edited by: Blane Xero on 11/03/2010 21:08:47 Originally by: Eddie Gordo balls... thankyou :) Welcome You also have a double-for in the first paragraph near the end. "Enlighten with the Unreal Engine 3 to produce fully dynamic lighting for for console platforms." _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Tippia Reikoku IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.11 21:15:00 - [5] I don't know if I'd call it "rumoured" – they stated it pretty outright at fanfest. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Eddie Gordo Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.11 21:17:00 - [6] I spotted that too but the page is cached and wont update for a few mins yet. Anyone got any coments on the actual content of the article? I mean It has been rumoured for quite some time, but I think its quite good news as being based on Unreal Engine will mean a PC port should be quite quick if CCP ever cave to "popular demand" and do it on PC too. Dust514 \| Podlogs \| Pluggit
Eddie Gordo Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.11 21:23:00 - [7] Originally by: Tippia I don't know if I'd call it "rumoured" û they stated it pretty outright at fanfest. CCP never gave an official comment at fanfest. I heard roumours on the interwebs about Unreal before I had sapphrine conduct an interview with Hilmar and Atli Mar Sveinsson. At the time they had no official comment, I guess a dev must have blurted it out before they were ready to actually announce it. Fanfest Interview Dust514 \| Podlogs \| Pluggit
arbiter reformed Minmatar HIGHLAND RIM FriendsReunited	Posted - 2010.03.11 21:25:00 - [8] its a good enginge to use, although id have gone with the crysis engine tbh Signature graphics that may only contain your character name, corporation logo, corporation or personal slogan or other text that is directly related to your in-game persona, or content directly related to Eve Online. All content must be in good taste.Applebabe
Alchemist's Alt Gallente Hysteria Nexus	Posted - 2010.03.11 21:26:00 - [9] Less talk more release dates on ALL future stuff including Encarta FIRST!!
Tippia Reikoku IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.11 21:30:00 - [10] Originally by: Alchemist's Alt Less talk more release dates on ALL future stuff including Encarta Well, Encarta, for one, was discontinued a couple of months ago, iirc. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Eddie Gordo Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.11 21:32:00 - [11] Originally by: arbiter reformed its a good enginge to use, although id have gone with the crysis engine tbh Its a console release, and to the best of my limited knowledge the crysis engine isnt on xbox or ps3. Crysis is a lovely engine though :) Dust514 \| Podlogs \| Pluggit
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.03.11 21:56:00 - [12] The moast awesome thing though is that m\kb support is built in to the engine and will be a cinch to mod in at a later date at least for the ps3. But I'm betting ccp simply enables it and so in a single stroke silence all the pc snobs like me who own a console but think fps + thumbsticks is a blasphemy onto competative shooter gaming. Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone!
Ishuku Amarr Dark Star Industries	Posted - 2010.03.11 22:00:00 - [13] One of the reasons I can see why CCP went with this engine is because you can add technology to it. That leads me to think we will have a common social area for the consoles and the PC...please! Don't forget to "fully load" the textures! lol ~sghq.com~
Suluco Neo T.E.C.H.	Posted - 2010.03.11 22:03:00 - [14] What happened to them building their own engine, for use in Incarna and World of Darkness MMO?
Ishuku Amarr Dark Star Industries	Posted - 2010.03.11 22:06:00 - [15] Here is more info UT III- ~sghq.com~
Eddie Gordo Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.11 22:08:00 - [16] Originally by: Suluco What happened to them building their own engine, for use in Incarna and World of Darkness MMO? Maybe the Incarna footage we have already seen always used Unreal, but they only talked about the dynamic lighting they were working on with Geometrics. Dust514 \| Podlogs \| Pluggit
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.03.11 22:15:00 - [17] Originally by: Suluco What happened to them building their own engine, for use in Incarna and World of Darkness MMO? I don't think they ever stated that the incarna and wod engine was going to be used for dust as they are both completely different from a shooter and would make little use of the unreal engines capabilities. However the art assets can be freely interchanged and as that is the lions share of any games development budget I can see ccp sharing assets between the incarna and dust teams as it will make both of them seem to be the same game visually. Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone!
Naupilo Altless Green Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.11 22:50:00 - [18] Originally by: Eddie Gordo Maybe the Incarna footage we have already seen always used Unreal, but they only talked about the dynamic lighting they were working on with Geometrics. ôAmbulationö is a new technology being introduced into the CCP Core Technology Platform. This engine will manage the full-body representation of humans, creatures, and other non-player-characters (NPC) for both indoor and outdoor game environment settings. Ambulation includes R&D in Artificial In-telligence, Animation Systems, Advanced Character Rendering Technology, Crowd Simulation, Navigation, and Pathfinding for agents in indoor environments. Ambulation will be used to deliver the new EvE Online feature ôWalking in Stationsö, and will be the technology foundation for the World of Darkness character system. That decided on tried and tested UE 3 for their console title is fine with me. I want them to finish "Ambulation", not try and port it to Xbox 360. But damnit, moar Ambulation, less Dust info please :D
Junto Mien	Posted - 2010.03.11 23:02:00 - [19] In a similar spirit of being "helpful": Originally by: Blane Xero Its Incarna. not Encarna. It's "it's", not its.
Junto Mien	Posted - 2010.03.11 23:13:00 - [20] Something I don't quite understand - the demo we saw at fanfest, was this using the UT3 engine?
Mashie Saldana Red Federation	Posted - 2010.03.11 23:25:00 - [21] Edited by: Mashie Saldana on 11/03/2010 23:26:28 Originally by: Junto Mien Something I don't quite understand - the demo we saw at fanfest, was this using the UT3 engine? Yes, Dust 514 is Unreal 3 engine. Incarna use the Trinity engine. Art assets are shared between the engines hence the similar look of the characters in both. Mashie Saldana - Dominique Vasilkovsky - Monica Foulkes
Taxesarebad	Posted - 2010.03.11 23:39:00 - [22] Originally by: Eddie Gordo Originally by: arbiter reformed its a good enginge to use, although id have gone with the crysis engine tbh Its a console release, and to the best of my limited knowledge the crysis engine isnt on xbox or ps3. Crysis is a lovely engine though :) crysis 2 will be on Xbox 360 so who knows.
Minsc Gallente A.W.M	Posted - 2010.03.12 00:25:00 - [23] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Suluco What happened to them building their own engine, for use in Incarna and World of Darkness MMO? I don't think they ever stated that the incarna and wod engine was going to be used for dust as they are both completely different from a shooter and would make little use of the unreal engines capabilities. However the art assets can be freely interchanged and as that is the lions share of any games development budget I can see ccp sharing assets between the incarna and dust teams as it will make both of them seem to be the same game visually. You have a stunningly narrowminded idea of what the unreal engine is capable of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.03.12 00:38:00 - [24] Originally by: Minsc You have a stunningly narrowminded idea of what the unreal engine is capable of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games I know that its has been used for many other types of games than a shooter and did it well but obviously ccp feels its not up to what they want for incarna. However its probably the best premade engine for a shooter so why would they feel the need to waste money and try to reinvent it when they need all the smart people making incarna from the ground up? Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone!
Minsc Gallente A.W.M	Posted - 2010.03.12 00:53:00 - [25] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Minsc You have a stunningly narrowminded idea of what the unreal engine is capable of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games I know that its has been used for many other types of games than a shooter and did it well but obviously ccp feels its not up to what they want for incarna. However its probably the best premade engine for a shooter so why would they feel the need to waste money and try to reinvent it when they need all the smart people making incarna from the ground up? My guess is that in order to do that they would need to integrate the unreal engine into the EVE client which would be considerably more difficult to do. Who knows though maybe one of the reasons that they delayed Incarna for so long is that they decided to do just that. It would certainly save them a ton of development time in the future. Another factor could be that they would then have to pay a significant licensing fee in order to add it to the current EVE client. This is of course just speculation. We'll have to see what CCP will say on the last day of GDC.
Mashie Saldana Red Federation	Posted - 2010.03.12 01:26:00 - [26] Originally by: Minsc My guess is that in order to do that they would need to integrate the unreal engine into the EVE client which would be considerably more difficult to do. Who knows though maybe one of the reasons that they delayed Incarna for so long is that they decided to do just that. It would certainly save them a ton of development time in the future. One of the main reasons why Incarna got delayed is becuase it was originally DX10 only, but as the adaptation rate of DX10 was far below the expectations CCP had to add DX9 support as well. Mashie Saldana - Dominique Vasilkovsky - Monica Foulkes
Hienz Doofenshmirtz	Posted - 2010.03.12 09:45:00 - [27] The use of the UR3 engine will allow for better use of both major console platforms currently on the market. and to incarna, well they don't need more than a third of the unreal engine, so why use it. anyway I think CCP is going in the right direction to make a great game
Zedic Amarr Universalis Imperium	Posted - 2010.03.12 10:28:00 - [28] Anyone else find it funny that the banner ad on dust514.org is for an isk seller? Originally by: Akita T "It's not that power corrupts... it's that the corrupt seek power."
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2010.03.12 10:41:00 - [29] Originally by: Zedic Anyone else find it funny that the banner ad on dust514.org is for an isk seller? It's called Google Adsense. There is nothing the website owner (Eddie) can do to completely remove the possibility of an ISK Seller advertisement appearing. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Zedic Amarr Universalis Imperium	Posted - 2010.03.12 10:50:00 - [30] Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Zedic Anyone else find it funny that the banner ad on dust514.org is for an isk seller? It's called Google Adsense. There is nothing the website owner (Eddie) can do to completely remove the possibility of an ISK Seller advertisement appearing. I'm well aware of what google adsense is. I guess with a name like "blane" a ***y response was a given. Eh comrade? Originally by:** Akita T "It's not that power corrupts... it's that the corrupt seek power."

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