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Beltantis Torrence
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Posted - 2010.03.14 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Number AB3369 After playing in 0.0 with HACs and Recons, I took a little break to gather some ISK and used only cheap stuff to PvP. And, I've found the Moa to be exceptional. It's just a really damn good ship and it's never flown and constantly underestimated.
Here's my solo fit.
[Moa, Cheap Solo Winmobile] Lows: DCU II Magstab II Magstab II Magstab II
Mids: 10MN MWD II Warp Scrambler II Invul Field II LSE II
Highs: 5x Heavy Ion Blaster IIs Small Neut II
Rigs: Ancilliary Current Router I 2x Whatever You Want
Drones: 3x Warrior II
This ship costs, in total, about 10M and is fully insurable. With my skills, which are good, but by no means perfect, it does 400 dps, pulls a 28K tank with a 65% weakest resist. The ship can punk anything from interceptors to ratting BC's, if you get them when they're drawing good aggro. And they're literally almost free to fly.
My question: why does no one fly this ship, cause it's ugly?
I'm considering dual boxing with another T1 cruiser. Can fly Caldari and Gallente with my other toon. Was thinking AML BB. Any thoughts?
-AB
It's not underrated. Your fit isn't very good. Why? Cannot kill frigs because it has no web and cannot track them close range. Cannot kill ruptures because they are too fast to get caught inside of blaster range and have their own webs. Will die to a thorax thanks to ECM drones. Will die to an arbitrator because it cannot catch it. What exactly is this ship supposed to be good at?
It may have tank but that tank won't do anything if it can't kill anything other than PVE fit BC's that you catch napping. Almost every other cruiser is faster with better range and a web so you won't be able to get close enough to kill them unless they're total newbs.
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Beltantis Torrence
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Posted - 2010.03.15 21:57:00 -
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Edited by: Beltantis Torrence on 15/03/2010 21:57:53
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Guillame Herschel No, the Moa is not most underrated. The Bellicose is. People forget it has 40m3 drones.
Indeed. People also forget that not everyone is cross trained for every freakin race and its weapon systems or even want to cross train. In that case if you are caldari and you gang needs a close in tanky damage dealer then your best bet is the moa. It is just about as good as any other close range t1 ship regardless of whatever damage chart the eft whoors pull out that shows the rax beating it by 23 points of hull left in that mythical 1vs1 match that never happens on tq. 
Op was talking about solo PVP. In a gang its fine. Solo there's hardly anything it can take and its suicide taking it to a belt.
Edited to add: And just because you never solo PVP doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I'll usually spend half my time in the game doing solo PVP, it's more gratifying in many ways than gang PVP.
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Beltantis Torrence
Groovy Guns
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Posted - 2010.03.16 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Beltantis Torrence Edited to add: And just because you never solo PVP doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I'll usually spend half my time in the game doing solo PVP, it's more gratifying in many ways than gang PVP.
Actually I spent most of my early pvp career soloing or multiboxing in low sec and nullsec with a variety of ships ranging from suicide fit t1 crap to faction fitted recons and bombers with the odd cloaking bs along for the lulz. Finding a suitable single target that you can kill before backup arrives is a very long drawn out process though I do admit that when you pull it off it is defininlty most gratifiying. Still doesn't change the fact that solo pvp on tq is vashingly rare and not enough of a factor to bash a specific ship as worthless. Moa is a fine ship and well worth adding to a gang if that is all the pilot can afford to fly.
In FW its as simple as running through the common loops. I get solo fights within minutes often.
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