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Jumpy Rabbit
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Posted - 2010.05.05 20:08:00 -
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And there you have it people of eve Snatch Victory merc's you can trust honest business men or should we say little girls who sook when things don't go there way, but who am i to say if you should hire them or not but as you can clearly see if you do and they dont perform and you tell them wow are they going to try note the try and burn you...
So people of eve at least you have it from the mouths of babe's proof you can take to the bank, and Icas now I can sit here saying I'm not part of cult of kaos eh who cares the more I deny the more everyone wont believe so whats the point of even saying yes or no honestly I don't care who you THINK I am.
Bring on the war dec snatch or should that be itchy snatch :)
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PreZiDenT1
The Nintendo Generation Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2010.05.05 20:10:00 -
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I think i speak for most of the eve community when i say these two things:
1) Nobody really cares
2) You're a muppet.
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Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.05.05 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Jumpy Rabbit What I require from Noir. is -
Kill this person 1 or all toons must be in a ship of value T2 or BC class, Exumer or T2 Industrial
I think this all boils down to a miscommunication.
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Good Heavens
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Posted - 2010.05.05 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: Jumpy Rabbit blar
You forgot to lol.
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Albatheron
Caldari Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2010.05.06 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: PreZiDenT1 I think i speak for most of the eve community when i say these two things:
1) Nobody really cares
2) You're a muppet.
Well if nobody in the eve community cares i just gotta ask why did Icas post that wall of text? As for the jumpy rabbit thing meh not my alt but who cares. And the most important part of this post what is a muppet?
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Roastedpot
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.05.06 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Icas Otame
What I require from Noir. is -
umm.. now i'm confused
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Aeolia Schlemburg
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Posted - 2010.05.06 01:18:00 -
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nandeska?
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Firnas
Minmatar The Nintendo Generation Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2010.05.06 01:27:00 -
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I really hate having to post on these forums. REPO just bought itself the entire summer of war for free. Not that there is much left of them to gnaw on, but worrying a bone can be satisfying sometimes I guess.
What's known?
First and foremost, that a good chunk of the core of Snatch Victory is ex repo, having left due to the absolute decline of the alliance about six months ago. I left/got kicked for speaking up about the failures, and the majority of the good pilots came with. We reformed under the Snatch banner, and went about our business.
Anytime you had success using REPO in the two years prior to that, you were dealing with myself or my directors. If REPO got anything done during that time period, it was because we stepped up and got jobs done while the slackers in REPO sat around jerking themselves in Amarr middle.
From back then until now, I've conducted myself as a merc with respect and loyalty to my clients. There's any number of people in this game who can back that up, and you can't find a situation where we have ever outed a client. Even in the case of this post, the "prospective client" jumpy rabbit, outed himself for contacting us before we ever disclosed any information. The info got shopped around but none of us really felt any interest in this task, or in the feasibility of it considering the circumstances around the toons location. In addition it just felt like a collection of bull and so we moved on. I couldn't possibly express how many contracts we get in the mail that simply get ignored or replied "Sorry, not interested" by us. Other merc CEO's understand this as do any other CEO's or directors of active alliances. You can't take everything, and what is just a mail to you and easily ignored, is a big deal to the person who sent it.
That said, I find it very likely that this is Alba's work. Like Icas has already posted, the guy has a blatant link to Albatheron's Kult of Kaos, who is a self professed corp thief/infiltrator. If I really had to, I'd dig through my chat logs and find all the little operations he used to run and talk about in the REPO directors channel, but that would be less than pointless because obviously any text file can be created from vapor and therefore is meaningless.
Employment history and examination of grammer are not however, they are objective criteria, and it is pretty evident the factual link that ties Albatheron to Jumpy Rabbit. In addition to the employment history, the text similarities are enough to make me suspicious. It's easy to see that once we bumped up against REPO after splitting off and the feud kicked in, we started kicking the everloving crap out of them. They have been significantly butthurt by this, and I can't blame them. Getting dismantled like a cheap IKEA couch must be frustrating, and I would switch to asymetric warfare too in order to try to get some licks in.
Obviously I can't prove anything so I'll distill it down to this.
IF it's REPO.
Fail attempt to make us look bad. We have any number of clients, both past and present, who can attest to the confidentiality. Obviously they would have difficulty posting to prove this, but I leave it to them whether they want to or not.
REPO itself is a dried up husk of a alliance, battered in by us and left to rot in the sun. They haven't been able to satisfactorily complete any contracts in weeks if not months, and even were too broke to compete in the alliance tournament, in addition to not having enough pilots left with the skill to do so.
An objective assessment of the killboards would show a clear purpose for any sort of false flag forum warfare against us, as we have steadily dismantled them over the last month or so. They are already a crippled alliance, and hardly worthy of the term mercenaries any more. This has made them quite bitter, and admittedly given me quite a lot of satisfaction.
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Firnas
Minmatar The Nintendo Generation Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2010.05.06 01:37:00 -
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Edited by: Firnas on 06/05/2010 01:43:26
if it ISN'T REPO, which I find unlikely, then it's still a ridiculous situation. We don't normally handle assassination contracts, but we shopped it out to our guys. The contract was not really a suicide gank as indicated, instead being a operation into Insmother to go blow up 3 chappos and get their pods. Woopee doo, not interested. We have more than enough on our plate handling the empire jobs, and figured that someone else who operates in 0.0 would handle it. In fact I expected NOIR to do it.
I should modify that. What I expected is that this guy would contact NOIR, but knowing what I do of NOIR, they are similar to us in that they turn away people who are so bleeping stupid that they can't formulate a proper sentence structure. I assumed it would go something like this. OP initiates conversation, and sounds stupid. Alek listens for a bit, and then says go away, and thats about all she wrote.
At no point that I am aware of did we ever indicate that we would warn said chap of his impending doom. In my experience, most of the time when a person has been contracted to be suicided, the OP has already been such a spaz that he's threatened it to him anyway, but that's besides the point. We never contacted this individual, and I have no evidence to the contrary. We do not and did not disclose the client information, until this jagoff decided to post on here some insinuations regarding my alliance that were unfounded, and also blatantly identified him as a prospective client.
Once he did that, there was no real reason to keep silent, both because Icas felt the need to speak some truth before lies in order to clear the air, and also because the OP self obviated the number 1 rule of any good merc alliance, which is keep the client confidential.
If you are going to stand up and shout your name, and then impugn someone, don't be surprised if they stand up to defend themselves. We've worked hard in this alliance to get to the position we have attained, and I don't intend to be silent while some Forum Warrior Alt posts some unfounded bull regarding his dealings with us.
Our record stands as our testimony, and our killboards stand as our proof of capability, both against the contracts, and in The Competition campaign, as our record against our peers in the mercenary business. To this point, we've achieved success against every one of our peers in this business, and established ourselves as one of the best, if not the loudest. I don't have a PR department to handle these things, so we stay under the radar compared to some of the other alliances, and prefer to get most of our jobs by word of mouth and from old clients satisfied with our business.
I believe that about covers most of what I wanted to say. I really don't like posting on the forums about this kind of drama, but sometimes it is a necessary evil.
As a post script, Albatheron, you really should get out a dictionary when you post so you don't look so obvious on your alt.
Firnas - Snatch Victory CEO
*edit* Our killboad if anyone feels up to some research on the reason for such bitterness. www.snatchvictory.com
Also note how it is 5,000 times better than REPO's crusty old griefwatch board.
"My name is Ozymandias, King of kings. Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair." Percy Byshhe Shelley
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Albatheron
Caldari Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2010.05.06 02:21:00 -
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WOW i guess someone in the eve community did care. Again ive never posted on these forums with an alt. Yes I have alts im sure alot of us do. This jumpy dude isnt mine. Hell he could be yours for all i know. If i were to look at all your alliance's alt's id find one that was in the same corp as jumpy. This could be just another attempt for you to say how bad REPO is. Again I dont care. As for my reputation ask anyone that ive dealt with concerning contracts let them state how i dealt with them. as for your chat logs post them I know for a fact what ever your talking about wasnt me. So dec us i dont really care, flame me here again i dont really care. Im actually laughing over this whole thing.
Hell i will even state this if you have 100 percent undeniable proof this jumpy dude is me i will leave REPO and run missions forever.
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Roastedpot
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.05.06 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: Firnas NOIR, but knowing what I do of NOIR,
lowercase with a dot (yes i know the commas were for sentence structure)
and yes please kill repo, griefwatch boards for corporations/alliances hurt my head :(
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Firnas
Minmatar The Nintendo Generation Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2010.05.06 08:52:00 -
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Edited by: Firnas on 06/05/2010 08:53:47 REPO is pretty much already dead.
Only 3 corps left. REPO proper... Gungho guns which is really only two guys, Magus Nebula and Izaod, who don't play any more, and Mithril, who are new to the alliance and probably learning the hard way what a mistake looks like.
So two corps of 8 and 40 men apiece, and then REPO proper. My estimate is REPO has 19 pilots left... maybe.
And yeah, I realize that I put out the Noir wrong after I posted.. I'm a stickler for good grammar and structure though, so it's a forgivable mistake.
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Jumpy Rabbit
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Posted - 2010.05.06 11:01:00 -
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lol ok this is becoming great I hope the eve Tribune is keeping an eye on this, this will make a great story...
ok Snatch - Icas and firnas time for some Facts, (and shall be stated here with out the need for insults or cheap digs)
facts
- I'm not Albatheron never have been
- This was a suicide gank ask Max Nero original contracted party
- As you should know a contract can change without notice as advents take place, targets dont sit still and do do other things go figure
- I never liked English even though I can speak it I tend to assassinate the English language (just some info for when you attack my punctuation.
- Never have I called you and if you read the original post I attacked a member of your alliance and have still not posted his name, but Icas Otame took it upon himself to post the contract naming the target, and you call that professional hmmm
- Why Bring Noir into this is this your way to get on there good side hmm this opens up a new wave of question
Now I can go on and Dot pointing a crap load or your remarks in Bold font and italic but nah,
Fact - A member of Snatch said this contract would be simple easy and no problem. Fact - This member gave a distinct impression he was representing Snatch he even said another member of snatch was assisting in infiltrating said targets corp/alliance. Fact - I'm Still not Albatheron. Fact - I'm not repo or Associated with Repo. Fact - Noir ?
Now what could be funny is hell I could be part of Privateers oh crap now there becoming involved, hell lets bring in all mercs pssst Major Stallion hint hint.
So Firnas if you have a beef with REPO which any one can see you do have then take out a new thread of your own. This is ny Thread and this is about how Icas felt the need to tell everyone about a contract This is now about how Snatch cant honor contracts. Now I could post the many mails for ******* - Snatch but I'll just post where he has a hissy fit
Jumpy Rabbit
Quote: I take it your unable to full fill this contract ?
Snatch Member
Quote: Idiot. He is in a completely different timezone which make the opportunitys limited to weekends and the post you did on the forums spooked the alliance and they are now really suspicious against new characters. They know something is coming. The longer the time the more they will relax. We will keep up our chars there for ahwile longer and you should act a bit more professional than you are right now.
Jumpy Rabbit
Quote: Well idiot you must be a friggin noob when it comes to merc work, cause if you bothered to listen to there leader you would have already worked out that he is a friggin tart scared of his own friggin shadow, and if you bothered to look you would have seen I posted that way way way before so there is no way in hell they are suspicious of anything other then there own shadow, so idiot, man up or I'll keep trying till i find someone worthy of the name merc. na frack ya's there are plenty of guys out there, so recon I'll keep looking till I find them so long hope that's plenty professional for ya
Snatch Member
Quote: ******. I think it's time I had a little chat with your target and tell him that there is a butthurt girl in need of revenge. Look forward to a wardec if you dare to join a real corp or alliance. Later
All this came from a mail to him saying Jumpy Rabbit
Quote: I take it your unable to full fill this contract ?
So all this from a couple of mails and now I'm Albatheron part of REPO, I'm guessing by thread 5 I'll be head of MM and I'll have closed there alliance taking all there isk and caps, wow can't wait hurry up and start posting guys I want to get to thread 5 ASAP
lol I still love eve this is better then TV any day.
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Albatheron
Caldari Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2010.05.06 11:27:00 -
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Fact REPO is still very much alive and still taking contracts. Fact as our crappy kill board will prove Fact for a gutted dead alliance REPO is still better than Snatch Fact there is some real but hurt in this thread
FACT THIS IS PRICELESS.
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Hexperience
Amarr Omega Wing Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2010.05.06 11:43:00 -
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I seldom engage in forum wars. However this needs to be adressed. First let me state that this was not official SNATCH business. Quote from mail contact:
Quote: I'm doing this in "private time" so to say. I'm in the process of infiltrating his corporation now. WIll update you with progress. /Hex
Second about the quoted dialogues.
Rabbit, of some mysterious reason - choose to exclude some mails in our dialogue. This is the quote that turned the tide so to say:
Quote: well I guess your like all the other mercs, need a blob to back you up ? kk well I'll look for someone who can do this job
And this:
Quote:
lol cool deal ***** bring it, lol I dare you **** do it do it
It's not hard to understand that someone with this attitude are not in the habit of making friends. Rabbit, your behaviour will, of course, create an response. The nature of that response stands in direct relation to the content of that said behaviour. In simpler terms - act like an idiot and you will get what idiots like yourself deserve. Cya around Rabbit. I think you will have to live up your name.
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Rayana Izba
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Posted - 2010.05.06 11:52:00 -
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Edited by: Rayana Izba on 06/05/2010 11:52:24 Infact this is priceless indeed. Anyone with half a brain can see that Jumpy Rabbit and Albatheron are infact the same person at the way he writes. Even AFTER the confrontation (and following denial), the language written is in the exact same style. I love this thread.
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Jumpy Rabbit
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Posted - 2010.05.06 11:59:00 -
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Yes I did leave them out, as there not in order of chat but you know this and as mails can be posted in any order and as mails can be edited nah. read what you want guys, now as the culprit had revealed himself here is the person that can't take criticism.
Strange how your the aggressor in chat but I'm the idiot hmmm that's so cool.
PS: please be my friend pleaseeeeee.
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Jumpy Rabbit
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Posted - 2010.05.06 12:05:00 -
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Quote: Anyone with half a brain can see that Jumpy Rabbit and Albatheron
Hey Rayana Izba from this day on ye shall be known as half brain
:)
FACT This is Priceless
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SK Chicken
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Posted - 2010.05.06 12:10:00 -
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*clap clap* oh u! That is HILARIOUS!
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Jumpy Rabbit
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Posted - 2010.05.06 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: Jumpy Rabbit on 06/05/2010 13:14:40 oh looky looky what I see here is a direct quote from Icas himself
Quote: We offer complete confidentiality. No one will ever know who hired us, unless of course you want them to
Dang this is even in there advert hell if they dont lie on a constant bases
Quote: Suicide Ganks, for when you just really, really need to hurt one person. We'll blow up his favorite mission ship for you before he knows what happened.
Poof Snatch do infact tell porkies
Funny that coming from there person who can't keep it shut in the first place
purple monkey dish washer
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Faekurias
Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.05.06 13:44:00 -
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Just had to comment on this, as a non-involved party.
Can't help myself, just love dramaz.
Originally by: Albatheron
Fact REPO is still very much alive and still taking contracts. 1 Fact as our crappy kill board will prove 2 Fact for a gutted dead alliance REPO is still better than Snatch 3
1 - Would seem that you are alive indeed =) 2 - Can't tell, griefwatch is terrible, also doesn't look very active, but acceptable I suppose.
3 - Doesn't seem like it, but still basis in fact? Please supply something to reinforce your point of view.
Overall: Not much from repo in general, but you seem pretty angry personally.
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Myxlflyx
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Posted - 2010.05.06 14:45:00 -
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This thread was revealing. I wont ever hire snatch or repo after reading this trash. |
Max Nero
Endless Fury
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Posted - 2010.05.06 14:58:00 -
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/me grabs popcorn
Go on...
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PreZiDenT1
The Nintendo Generation Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2010.05.06 15:13:00 -
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Edited by: PreZiDenT1 on 06/05/2010 15:15:40 Jumpy Rabbit aka Albatheron.
Instead of admitting it's your alt, you keep up this ridiculous charade and end up as the village idiot you are.
I love your facts by the way. On both your main and alt.
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Albatheron
Caldari Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2010.05.06 16:47:00 -
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Hey arent you my alt? Hmmm prove your not. Better yet prove jumpy is.
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MushMush
Minmatar Silent Ninja's Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2010.05.06 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Albatheron Hey arent you my alt? Hmmm prove your not. Better yet prove jumpy is.
Albatheron, please stop posting. I used to be proud of my time in REPO but you are cheapening my employment history. Everyone please remember that REPO wasn't always this way, I keep trying to.
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crazyr2
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2010.05.06 17:32:00 -
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Internet spaceships is serious business
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Baron Wikkheiser
The Filthy Few Pendulum of Doom
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Posted - 2010.05.06 18:14:00 -
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Quote: ******. I think it's time I had a little chat with your target and tell him that there is a butthurt girl in need of revenge. Look forward to a wardec if you dare to join a real corp or alliance. Later
Try being less obvious.
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Roastedpot
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.05.06 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Myxlflyx This thread was revealing. I wont ever hire snatch or repo after reading this trash.
contact alekseyev karrde for all your future contract needs
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PreZiDenT1
The Nintendo Generation Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2010.05.06 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Myxlflyx This thread was revealing. I wont ever hire snatch or repo after reading this trash.
Why hello there, mercenary alt.(8 days)
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