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Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.19 10:53:00 - [91] Originally by: Xina Tutor Certainly we have all seen a very different UK of late. One that is without a real purpose and mission. Yes because removing your terrible alliance from Providence definately wasn't our purpose or mission ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
Xina Tutor Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.03.19 12:01:00 - [92] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Xina Tutor Certainly we have all seen a very different UK of late. One that is without a real purpose and mission. Yes because removing your terrible alliance from Providence definately wasn't our purpose or mission And now? You can only hope that CVA will continue the fight I suppose. Without CVA, the UK mission is... hmm...
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.19 12:06:00 - [93] Originally by: Xina Tutor And now? You can only hope that CVA will continue the fight I suppose. Without CVA, the UK mission is... hmm... Your logic appears to be "don't try and accomplish your goals, because then you won't have any goals anymore". I don't think even your CVA slaver friends would agree with that sentiment. Pathetic.
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.19 12:19:00 - [94] Originally by: Xina Tutor And now? You can only hope that CVA will continue the fight I suppose. Without CVA, the UK mission is... hmm... So you're saying that CVA and her allies have given up, will never try to reclaim Providence, and will not continue the fight at all? Well, if that is the case, we shall simply bask in the glory of your death. Will keep us occupied for long enough. ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
Lucy Midnight Loki Conglomerate	Posted - 2010.03.19 22:19:00 - [95] Originally by: Butter Dog I think I can state with some confidence that anyone who aids slavers will be considered a valid target. We must do all we can to ensure the promotion of freedom - that is, freedom for ALL our people. In a region where there are no restrictions on who can be shot, it hardly seems like a consequence to add one more potential aggressor.
Conlin Gallente Mad Bombers	Posted - 2010.03.20 04:31:00 - [96] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Conlin At least I have my reputation & the respect of my former enemies , thats a lot more than you,or the mess you've made of U'K's roleplaying reputation . The only reputation you have is of someone who cut and run when you had a real chance of helping remove CVA. You call that being loyal? You think that helps UK realise it's goals? Of course it doesn't, any fool can see you just wanted to persue your own selfish agenda. The moment you had to align yourself to UK's true goals, instead of just killing lone sansha hunters whenever you felt like it, you ran away faster than your legs could carry you. What kind of reputation is that? Not one any self respecting pilot in UK would wish to have. I'm not sure what you mean by "roleplaying reputation", but I'd rather UK achieved it's goals of removing CVA from Providence than engage in pointless Galnet pleasantries with our sworn enemies. At the end of the day, I and those like me helped shape UK into the force it is today, allies and all, killing CVA and removing her allies from Providence. I understood UK's goals, and how we can realise them - no thanks to you. You persued your own selfish agenda, and if people like you were a the helm of UK we'd still be in Curse acheiveing nothing. Seriously Butter , you need to get over yourself and that ego of yours . It will get the better of you one day . Once again you forget , it was ppl like me , thrasher , lachy , atreidos , fleshy etc who fought -A- & Provibloc , Who was then invited by -A- to join their fleets as they were impressed , and that my young pup is where the fruits of our invitation with -A- stemmed from . Not your constant chit chat in here . U'K's true goals , or just yours ?, just because 11b didnt idolise you ,you wanted rid . Once again you forget 11b was responsible for billions of isk of damage during this war with its interdiction . Something Karn supported . And responsible for sylph folding and unlike you its not speculation its fact based on a mail recieved from its ceo Correct !! , I did have a selfish agenda , to invade provibloc and remove CVA , not recruit provi and kiss its former alliances with offers of Sov
zoolkhan Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.20 10:11:00 - [97] Edited by: zoolkhan on 20/03/2010 10:11:49 Originally by: Conlin I did have a selfish agenda , to [..cut..] kiss its former alliances with offers of Sov boys, take it to private will ya? nobody is interested into two blown up egos each of you claim to have won the war before its over. Get into a sandbox and play with dolls. Both of you are quiet ok pilots withing their own specialisation. Granted. But your presence alone would not have gotten us anywhere. Both of you have the diplomatic skills matching the talking potatoes from yulai II. Ushra'khan is a collection of talents, and only the whole of it is what leads to succsess. Nothing is as pathetic as turning the back to your brothers in their most important fighting since foundation, and then even claim that whatever we will achieve is your earnings. I mean.. please... And Butter dog has an own space station now, so his ego could finally dock. But whomever judges the alliance over his comments, is careless, ignorant, naive, ******ed. pick your two of those. recruiting -forum
Shiroi Okami Gallente Mad Bombers	Posted - 2010.03.20 11:24:00 - [98] Well said Zoolkhan. Although I wonder if we reinforce that station will BD's ego be able to undock again? In all seriousness other than a severe drop in recruitment standards of late I don't believe UK has done so much wrong, certain individuals excepted. However, just for you Butter Dog, I'm going to state some facts, seeing as you seem to have conveniently forgotten them. 1. We have all done our part for the UK cause, all fought the battles, whether they be recent or years old, so stop *****ing. 2. 11b left Uk because of a difference of opinion topped with a big misunderstanding, which is rather different to betraying the alliance. I could have enmptied UK's war chest when I left had I wished, but I didn't, so I won't have you lot tossing around the 'fact' that 11b has 'betrayed' UK in it's 'hour of need'. 3. Which brings me to my next point, this is no hour of need for UK. At no point was UK in danger itself, nor was the -A- offensive in danger of stalling after d-g, because CVA just didn't put up any resistance. This is not even UK's campaign. If it were not for -A-'s decision to invade providence, this never would have happened. Uk just jumped on the bandwagon or was being a good ally and helping out -A- (However you want to take it) and at the same time completing UK's original objective of socking it to the slavers and taking back their space. Make no mistake however, -A- would have defeated providence with or without you. Just with the aid of sys-k, atlas and UK it was simply easier. So stop throwing around the term 'revelant' like you actually are. 4. UK could be quite easily compared to france during the second world war so many thousands of years ago. France (Providence) was invaded and occupied by Germany (CVA and allies), the French (UK) began a guerilla war on the German (CVA) occupation, and caused disruptions to supply routes, troop movements, and everyday business, while never actually fighting them outright. Eventually when France was liberated by the Allies Forces (-A- and allies), the French all puffed themselves up and started talking about how vital they were to the war etc etc, when at the end of the day the US and Russia probably would have beaten Germany on their own, the French Resistance simply made it easier. This draws an almost exact parallel between that event and the current situation in providence. In short, stop talking yourself up and stroking your already collossal ego, because for all your smack, trolling and tough talk, UK's part in this theatre of war was small, yours even smaller. Had your cloning process gone awry and resulted in your destruction immediately before the burn providence campaign, nothing would have changed, Uk would still have done it's part, -A- and allies would have still trashed providence, so all in all, Butter Dog, you are expendable, you are irrelevant. As am I, as is any one individual in an alliance, aside from maybe the executors.
zoolkhan Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.20 12:35:00 - [99] Edited by: zoolkhan on 20/03/2010 12:35:52 Originally by: Shiroi Okami 4. UK could be quite easily compared to france during the second world war so many thousands of years ago. Nothing is as worthless as references to happenings that cannot be verified, because simply no datacores with accurate material exists this side of the eve gate about myths of wars thousand of years ago involving races and planets taht probably didnt even exist. How accurate is the material you researched, if youre even unable to tell the exact amount of years with an accuracy of.. well say 100 years plus/minus? If you want to impress the public galnet audience, perhaps use references to happenings of a past, that at least podpilots remember. recruiting -forum
Conlin Gallente Mad Bombers	Posted - 2010.03.20 13:43:00 - [100] This was about shutting butter up , everybody gets tired of his self centred chestbeating and needs reminding once in a while its a team effort . Your like the pmt of provi these days matey , always late Maybe if you had stopped sitting on the fence for so long , things wouldnt have gotten so bad as they are .So when you see ex alliance members arguing , take a second back . And ask why , instead of trying to play the father figure Hopefully youl,l fall off that fence one day , and act , before its too late ....again !!
Kozmic Universal Army Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.20 18:04:00 - [101] Originally by: Shiroi Okami WAlthough I wonder if we reinforce that station will BD's ego be able to undock again? I thought you guys did not do the station shooty thing, just the fun roamy stuff.
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.20 19:03:00 - [102] I don't give a toss about 11B and certainly have nothing against you. What I objected to was the way you came on Galnet shouting 'look at me!' and telling blatent lies after you decided to leave. It was undignified, and completely unnecessary. You accused UK of not being true to her ideals at a time we're removing CVA from Providence. The stupidity of it all was breathtaking. If you had not have done that, we wouldn't have had to call you irrelevant, or lacking in bigger picture understanding. Most of UK feel the way I've expressed in my posts to you, and the reason for that is the childish and frankly pathetic manner in which you decided to leave. ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
Conlin Gallente Mad Bombers	Posted - 2010.03.21 03:07:00 - [103] Actually Butter , once again you got it all wrong again . That announcement on Galnet was an exercise to show U'K had lost any rping credibility , and when you look at your responses , we were proven right .In a very big way . Notice I said "We" & not "I" . Dont judge others by your own standards please . Now l,ll leave the last word to you , once you've scoured all the other topics your struggling to defend .
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.21 08:50:00 - [104] Yes, killing our mortal enemy and removing them from Providence is destroying our credibility Honestly, I couldn't give a toss what you or anyone else thinks of our credibility. I care about two things: Killing CVA, and making UK a strong and capable alliance. If I hurt a few peoples feelings on Galnet along the way, forgive me for not caring in the slightest. ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
Lilan Kahn Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.21 09:59:00 - [105] Originally by: Conlin Actually Butter , once again you got it all wrong again . That announcement on Galnet was an exercise to show U'K had lost any rping credibility , and when you look at your responses , we were proven right .In a very big way . Notice I said "We" & not "I" . Dont judge others by your own standards please . Now l,ll leave the last word to you , once you've scoured all the other topics your struggling to defend . what is this rping you speak off? did you get lost on the way from the asylum trying to escape your horrible demented person "Bringing Content to you 1 round of ammo at a time"
Scarlette Derion	Posted - 2010.03.21 10:59:00 - [106] Originally by: Butter Dog Yes, killing our mortal enemy and removing them from Providence is destroying our credibility Honestly, I couldn't give a toss what you or anyone else thinks of our credibility. I care about two things: Killing CVA, and making UK a strong and capable alliance. If I hurt a few peoples feelings on Galnet along the way, forgive me for not caring in the slightest. If by 'strong and capable', you mean 'Bloated with useless cannon fodder' and 'follows -a-'s lead', then yes, the current UK is strong and capable. Although I'd say many provipet alliances also felt that quantity was better than quality, and look where that ended up
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.21 13:42:00 - [107] Originally by: Scarlette Derion If by 'strong and capable', you mean 'Bloated with useless cannon fodder' and 'follows -a-'s lead', then yes, the current UK is strong and capable. Although I'd say many provipet alliances also felt that quantity was better than quality, and look where that ended up Funnily enough, that isn't what I meant. But of course you knew that. By 'strong and capable' I mean able to do more than just roaming and killing sansha hunters. Also, being 'strong and capable' is a goal, as I don't believe we're nearly there yet. But it is a worthy goal, and the UK of today is stronger than it has ever been. ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.04.21 13:40:00 - [108] Originally by: Merdaneth If anything, the attack on Providence was an attack on freedom, perpetrated by the enemies of freedom. Or are my assumption faulty? Is there perhaps another reason that Providence attracted so many different capsuleers? So you are claiming that attacking an imperialist entity that thrived on slave labour on the planets below and forced all capsuleers in space to submit to a dominant standings regime based on the acceptance of slavery was somehow an attack on "freedom"? You Nationalists are certainly sounding desperate at the moment. True Knowledge

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Fridarey Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.04.23 15:22:00 - [110] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Merdaneth If anything, the attack on Providence was an attack on freedom, perpetrated by the enemies of freedom. Or are my assumption faulty? Is there perhaps another reason that Providence attracted so many different capsuleers? So you are claiming that attacking an imperialist entity that thrived on slave labour on the planets below and forced all capsuleers in space to submit to a dominant standings regime based on the acceptance of slavery was somehow an attack on "freedom"? You Nationalists are certainly sounding desperate at the moment. Would be interested in hearing Merdaneth respond on this one.
Catualda	Posted - 2010.04.24 04:27:00 - [111] Originally by: Butter Dog Yes, killing our mortal enemy and removing them from Providence is destroying our credibility Honestly, I couldn't give a toss what you or anyone else thinks of our credibility. I care about two things: Killing CVA, and making UK a strong and capable alliance. If I hurt a few peoples feelings on Galnet along the way, forgive me for not caring in the slightest. If you now represent the UshraÆkhan I once loved (4 years ago when I had to leave due to planetside issues) IÆm sorely disappointed. We were freedom fighters, our interest wasnÆt in gaining huge territories or make fortunes, wasnÆt even to ally to some foreign (to the cause) Powerbloc and pass for nothing more than a puppet to be toyed with. Our Purpose, the purpose as I understood it was to fight slavery, not build an empire! You can tell me what you will about how building said empire will end slavery, but the moment you become a regional power or a servant to one you indeed lose all that made the core of UÆK to become nothing more than a political toy or puppeteer. If it means anything, anything at all, if my words as a former member of ushraÆkhan have any meaning, remember what being a freedom fighter was about, why unity station was built, remember that roaming in small fast gangs meant more than tactics, was a trademark of UÆK with a lot more meaning than spewing forth some dozens upon dozens of capitals. I had the pleasure to participate in some skirmishes and events that made history for UÆK, I was proud and still feel proud of having served under the command of Karn Mithralia in NebuÆKauÆBehudeàand as I said, nothing saddens me more than to see UÆK reduced to a servant of AAA. Perhaps itÆs just me,maybe IÆam wrong, but I felt the need to make this my opinion known.
Nefher Zhila Amarr Khanid Provincial Vanguard	Posted - 2010.04.24 04:46:00 - [112] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Merdaneth If anything, the attack on Providence was an attack on freedom, perpetrated by the enemies of freedom. Or are my assumption faulty? Is there perhaps another reason that Providence attracted so many different capsuleers? So you are claiming that attacking an imperialist entity that thrived on slave labour on the planets below and forced all capsuleers in space to submit to a dominant standings regime based on the acceptance of slavery was somehow an attack on "freedom"? You Nationalists are certainly sounding desperate at the moment. A claim by an Anarchist entity that thrives on piracy and chaos, and forces capsuleers to a blind set of chaotic and often conflicting rules in space based on the acceptance of liberty and free travel who claim to defend said freedom. Interesting. Khanid Loyalist,Bahadir of Family Zhila. Former member of the 13th Royal Khanid Regulars, proud member of the khanid provincial Vanguard.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.04.24 07:02:00 - [113] Originally by: Nefher Zhila A claim by an Anarchist entity that thrives on piracy and chaos, and forces capsuleers to a blind set of chaotic and often conflicting rules in space based on the acceptance of liberty and free travel who claim to defend said freedom. Interesting. You accuse us of piracy? Please explain. True Knowledge
Black Necris Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.04.24 07:04:00 - [114] Originally by: Catualda If you now represent the UshraÆkhan I once loved (4 years ago when I had to leave due to planetside issues) IÆm sorely disappointed. We were freedom fighters, our interest wasnÆt in gaining huge territories or make fortunes, wasnÆt even to ally to some foreign (to the cause) Powerbloc and pass for nothing more than a puppet to be toyed with. Our Purpose, the purpose as I understood it was to fight slavery, not build an empire! You can tell me what you will about how building said empire will end slavery, but the moment you become a regional power or a servant to one you indeed lose all that made the core of UÆK to become nothing more than a political toy or puppeteer. If it means anything, anything at all, if my words as a former member of ushraÆkhan have any meaning, remember what being a freedom fighter was about, why unity station was built, remember that roaming in small fast gangs meant more than tactics, was a trademark of UÆK with a lot more meaning than spewing forth some dozens upon dozens of capitals. I had the pleasure to participate in some skirmishes and events that made history for UÆK, I was proud and still feel proud of having served under the command of Karn Mithralia in NebuÆKauÆBehudeàand as I said, nothing saddens me more than to see UÆK reduced to a servant of AAA. Perhaps itÆs just me,maybe IÆam wrong, but I felt the need to make this my opinion known. Nice to see you are doing ok Catualda, and working to free the slaves, instead of just being a forum warrior. Its amazing how people can come to a public forum, and say "OH UK was this and now is that!, OH! in my time, the music was good, now its just noise!". You even know what we just did in Providence? Tell me what part of this you don't approve: Removing entirely the slaver operations from the Providence Region. Stopping the Amarr paramilitary expansion or "Reclamation". Getting payback for the trick CVA and pets pulled on us 3 years ago. Its quite clear we couldn't have pulled this ourselves alone, but its also quite clear we did this job together with "A", not as pets but as brothers in arms. But i mean, of course you know best what UK should be, with your full 6 months in the organization, which ended almost 4 years ago. "Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally."
Xina Tutor Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.04.24 07:22:00 - [115] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Nefher Zhila A claim by an Anarchist entity that thrives on piracy and chaos, and forces capsuleers to a blind set of chaotic and often conflicting rules in space based on the acceptance of liberty and free travel who claim to defend said freedom. Interesting. You accuse us of piracy? Please explain. It's the patch you where over that eye... Oh and the very nature of your concept of 'freespace'. We all have our own dictionaries here...
Xina Tutor Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.04.24 07:30:00 - [116] >>You even know what we just did in Providence? Cloaked a lot? >>Removing entirely the slaver operations from the Providence Region. -A- and atlas did that pretty much on their own. >>Stopping the Amarr paramilitary expansion or "Reclamation". -A- and atlas did that pretty much on their own. >>Its quite clear we couldn't have pulled this ourselves alone... Or at all? But hey. It's done. You might have managed to get someone else to do the dirty work... Wait, hold on. -A- did this for their own reasons. They did it because of the whole sovreignty thing. The were worried about CVA taking space while they were busy elsewhere. They didn't do it for Ushra'Khan or the slaves. They did this for themselves and nobody else. Let's face it guys, you are just along for the ride here, Just like Daisho and all the rest. Ah well. It's still kind of like a victory.
Black Necris Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.04.24 14:31:00 - [117] Edited by: Black Necris on 24/04/2010 14:31:54 You know those kind of tears are used for a exquisite perfume used to anoint new warriors of Ushra Khan in the New and Improved Church of Providence (NICHUP)? So far you have provided us with enough material to anoint the whole eve universe, I thank you for filling our stock. Your rage filled and emotional statement, a statement that seems to come from the despair of loosing everything in the matter of a week or so its quite understandable, perhaps if you had showed as much in the battlefield as you do in the forums you would had kept your space for a little longer. But hey! who am i to say what Aralis strategies are... The most gracious & anointed lordship Black Necris Archbishop for the New and Improved Church of Providence PS: WTS anointment oil! 1.5 mill each bottle, we got several scents of tears for your pleasure! take home the warm smell of "Larmes du Xina" or "Plui des yeux de Merdaneth". Call this week and take two bottles for the price of one! thats right sir! But wait thats not all... If you call between the next 2 hours, you will get a certified copy of Pax Amarria signed by no other than Archbishop Black Necris, Holy leader of the New and Improved Church of Providence (NICHUP)!!!11!1 Disclaimer: The signing of the books may or may not take place in the toilet. Ink may or may not be fecal matter. "Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally."*
Xina Tutor Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.04.24 21:02:00 - [118] Ah. No real responce to that one I see. Because in the end, Ushra'Khan has no victory at all. They were swept in upon a mighty wave, a victory of their greater masters. They are returned to their home in unity, but it was a gift to them by another greater power which defeated their enemy for reasons of it's own. But you still have your outposts, so rest well. Indeed you now sit in your own space holding empire in an ever more peaceful region. It will be interesting new times for Ushr'Khan.
Black Necris Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.04.25 00:20:00 - [119] Originally by: Xina Tutor Ah. No real responce to that one I see. Because in the end, Ushra'Khan has no victory at all. They were swept in upon a mighty wave, a victory of their greater masters. They are returned to their home in unity, but it was a gift to them by another greater power which defeated their enemy for reasons of it's own. But you still have your outposts, so rest well. Indeed you now sit in your own space holding empire in an ever more peaceful region. It will be interesting new times for Ushr'Khan. What response you want? No matter what i say you are going to keep crying we are pets. Why would we engage you alone when you yourselves formed a power block with hundrds of organizations fighting for your side? How can you have the guts to come here and tell us we have no victory when you didnt even put a defense? Did you really expected us to come alone and take the whole providence by ourselves? I never said UK did it alone, nor that UK was capable of pulling that feat against the whole proviblock. The fact here is that we did kick you out of those systems and if you had put any resistance you would had noticed that UK pilots were a third of the total pilots in most of the fleets. Of course is the easy path to come and say: ha! UK didnt Won! but the fact is that we did, and the fact is that you loose and the sad part about it is that you didnt even put a fight. Most victorius lordship Black Necris Archbishop for the New and Improved Church of Providence (NICHUP) PS: ha! we won. "Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally."*
Alekseyev Karrde Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.04.25 07:10:00 - [120] Originally by: Xina Tutor Let's face it guys, you are just along for the ride here, Just like Daisho and all the rest. Do not underestimate the awesomeness of riding a wave. ---

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