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Dr Deadbolt
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.19 12:54:00 -
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The fanbois-ism is very strong in this thread. |

Minigin
Trinity Corp WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.03.19 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Deadbolt The fanbois-ism is very strong in this thread.
right so because everything we have said has reflected badly on you and people like you we are now fanbois. your an idiot, i get the same treatement from your lot of morons in thrashers.
when people talk in this thread we give props to dhb for flying those ships, but we flame you morons for being as ignorant and delusional as you are. all i see is your bitterness that you will most likely never be able to pvp on a similar stage to people like us. (the sad thing is you probably could... your just to lazy/******ed to figure out how). |

Neoenderli
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Posted - 2010.03.19 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Minigin
Originally by: Dr Deadbolt The fanbois-ism is very strong in this thread.
right so because everything we have said has reflected badly on you and people like you we are now fanbois. your an idiot, i get the same treatement from your lot of morons in thrashers.
when people talk in this thread we give props to dhb for flying those ships, but we flame you morons for being as ignorant and delusional as you are. all i see is your bitterness that you will most likely never be able to pvp on a similar stage to people like us. (the sad thing is you probably could... your just to lazy/******ed to figure out how).
The only bitter person in this thread is you.
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Ran Khanon
Amarr Vengeance Innovations
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Posted - 2010.03.19 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Der'Teufel Felsen I felt sure the idea of pvp was to kill much more than you loose, more relaited to isk value than ship class (killing 10 frigs in a BS wouldn't = a BS loss)
For some.
For others it might just be "Having a good time pew pewing other players and enjoying gf's whatever the outcome", for others "harvesting as much tears as possible", for others "taking as much risk as possible and trying to succeed against tremendous odds for the sheer thrill of it; 10 failures lead to one truly epic win", etc, etc. Or any mix of those. Goals to pvp are highly subjective.
Personally I think staring too much at killboard stats can turn you into a risk avoiding blob-pvp'er. In that regard: screw killboards and statistics, long live to those who can say "**** em all" and have the guts to engage in risky business with non-95%-expendable ships!
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Minigin
Trinity Corp WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.03.19 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Neoenderli
Originally by: Minigin
Originally by: Dr Deadbolt The fanbois-ism is very strong in this thread.
right so because everything we have said has reflected badly on you and people like you we are now fanbois. your an idiot, i get the same treatement from your lot of morons in thrashers.
when people talk in this thread we give props to dhb for flying those ships, but we flame you morons for being as ignorant and delusional as you are. all i see is your bitterness that you will most likely never be able to pvp on a similar stage to people like us. (the sad thing is you probably could... your just to lazy/******ed to figure out how).
The only bitter person in this thread is you.
"no u" is far more convinsing than a proper argument.
also i would admit not to being bitter, but to being annoyed at having to always go up against such ludacris numbers because of your inability and then have you lot gloat as if youve achieved some great feat of pvp prowess. of course im going to smack talk you back to the stone age... did you expect me to great you with cupcakes and tea? . MINIGIN! The original colour poster - now surrounding you in limegreen.
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Larsonist
Darkwave Technologies Blade.
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Posted - 2010.03.19 13:45:00 -
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I totally love dhb's vids and respect his efforts as a pvp'r as I attempt solo pvp with expensive ships as well. Let's be perfectly clear and honest here though. Everytime, in the past, when we engaged Satan/dhb they were in a nonconventional bizarre fleet.
I am of the same attitude though that you must throw isk into your pvp ships inorder to solo simply because most eve players won't solo anymore. Knowing that you will be outnumbered usually fairly heavy. In the last 3 years or so I think I've seen maybe 20 true solo roamers. Before that I could go to low sec and see it heavily.
Having said all that I do agree that wildcat does what he needs to to get the fights. I also believe he is fully aware and was fully aware that he was going to fight outnumbered in that fight. He has fought like that before it just sounds like something went wrong.
Lars
Larsonist > i still enjoyed the pew pew though, all the pos sh!t ive been doing lately had me feeling like smeagle without his precious. |

casai
Caldari North Eastern Swat
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Posted - 2010.03.19 16:14:00 -
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Edited by: casai on 19/03/2010 16:14:19 dont forget that just only a few weeks ago he lost a nightmareto your nc brosef in a 3 man gang why not gloat over that?
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inyreye
GK inc.
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Posted - 2010.03.19 19:56:00 -
[68]
Edited by: inyreye on 19/03/2010 19:59:13 hi im posting in green
and orange
edit: dam wrong green, what is that color? pretty catchy imo
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Gladys Pank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.03.19 20:48:00 -
[69]
Originally by: inyreye Edited by: inyreye on 19/03/2010 19:59:13 hi im posting in green
and orange
edit: dam wrong green, what is that color? pretty catchy imo
Quote: MINIGIN! The original colour poster - now surrounding you in limegreen.
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Dr Ngo
Amarr Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.03.20 01:01:00 -
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I think it's amazing how many people are talking about deaggressing. You do know the other side of that gate is still a .3 system, right?
All I'm saying is that it's fairly easy (especially if you know what you're up against and have a good fc) to bring a gang a quarter the size that you did and still be just as effective. As for deaggroing, you could always have one or two people who are set up to hold something fitted like a nightmare in lowsec waiting on the other side for him. You know, just in case.
Wildcat often engages outnumbered and outgunned and often survives because he knows that so many people in eve think like the naysayers in this thread. Argue all you want but it won't make you better at the game 
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2010.03.20 05:42:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Minigin
1) reapting something that is true doesnt make it less true. in fact the only reason i need to repeat it is because you are continuing your ignorant rants. 2) before the first nanopatch, i doubt anyone would have denied that they where overpowered, thus we had lots of "whine" threads. this did not stop any of the people "whining" about them (including myself) using them. if something is stupidly overpowered and you know it, and you tell people it needs to be ballanced (but its not going to) you would be ******ed not to use it yourself. 3) if you want to contest the way he is using that please provide related links of your vast experiance in fighting against dhb. (or for that matter anyone... 300 kills - 100 losses is at best someone who is on pvp training wheels.)
1. When approached with a problem in EVE, lets assume you have two options on how you handle it.
a. You cry like a little girl without her teddy bear because it doesn't suit your gameplay. b. HTFU. Adapt or die
I'm going to take a wild shot in the dark, but the crybabies aren't really good players at this game.
2. Overheat. Learning to manually fly and timing overheat correctly used to get me nanoHAC killmails like it was going out of style. Since I'm an just angry and bitter d00d, I'd imagine any EVE supahstar could have done it 1000x better than me 
3. I only saw him in space once. I was all alone in my lolPest with 2x TDs. He would have uncloaked his falcon as fast as he could access that character and I would have just ended up warping back out.

As far as my stats go... The PVP LEGEND DHB has an efficiency that is 29.62% lower than mine (numbers provided by Battleclinic).
We all know statistics provide an unbiased measure of a player's skills, right?  *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |

Ancy Denaries
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Posted - 2010.03.20 06:41:00 -
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Stop with the colors already! Seriously, I'm getting a seizure here >.<
And to the OP: Wow. You killed a battleship. I'm so impressed. ---- The Demigodess with a Conscience - An EVE IC Blog
Originally by: CCP Dropbear rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Dr Ngo
Amarr Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.03.20 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: Artemis Rose
Originally by: Minigin
1) reapting something that is true doesnt make it less true. in fact the only reason i need to repeat it is because you are continuing your ignorant rants. 2) before the first nanopatch, i doubt anyone would have denied that they where overpowered, thus we had lots of "whine" threads. this did not stop any of the people "whining" about them (including myself) using them. if something is stupidly overpowered and you know it, and you tell people it needs to be ballanced (but its not going to) you would be ******ed not to use it yourself. 3) if you want to contest the way he is using that please provide related links of your vast experiance in fighting against dhb. (or for that matter anyone... 300 kills - 100 losses is at best someone who is on pvp training wheels.)
1. When approached with a problem in EVE, lets assume you have two options on how you handle it.
a. You cry like a little girl without her teddy bear because it doesn't suit your gameplay. b. HTFU. Adapt or die
I'm going to take a wild shot in the dark, but the crybabies aren't really good players at this game.
2. Overheat. Learning to manually fly and timing overheat correctly used to get me nanoHAC killmails like it was going out of style. Since I'm an just angry and bitter d00d, I'd imagine any EVE supahstar could have done it 1000x better than me 
3. I only saw him in space once. I was all alone in my lolPest with 2x TDs. He would have uncloaked his falcon as fast as he could access that character and I would have just ended up warping back out.

As far as my stats go... The PVP LEGEND DHB has an efficiency that is 29.62% lower than mine (numbers provided by Battleclinic).
We all know statistics provide an unbiased measure of a player's skills, right? 
Confirming that efficiency is literally 100% of what is important in eve. And trust me, I know how he fits his falcon and it would pose very little threat to your tempest.
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K1RTH G3RS3N
The New Era
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Posted - 2010.03.20 11:05:00 -
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how do you guys (dhb and other dudes) manage to use such expensive ships so regularly? somebody teach me!
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2010.03.20 11:30:00 -
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I'm sure, somewhere, right at this moment, there are alliances, corporations and individuals right now feeling proud over winning 'fights' at overwhelming odds. Be it because of numbers, "tactics", or great ships and/or fittings; and I'm sure some of them like to boast about their victory. For whatever reason they might even have posted 'gf' in local. But it really takes a special type of individual to bring it to the forums; calling *goodfight* and placing it under the scrutiny of C&P.
In my eyes it's a simple gank. And the credit falls on DHB for having the macros to finance the ego of not only himself but also his enemies. ;)
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Minigin
Trinity Corp WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.03.20 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Artemis Rose
Originally by: Minigin
1) reapting something that is true doesnt make it less true. in fact the only reason i need to repeat it is because you are continuing your ignorant rants. 2) before the first nanopatch, i doubt anyone would have denied that they where overpowered, thus we had lots of "whine" threads. this did not stop any of the people "whining" about them (including myself) using them. if something is stupidly overpowered and you know it, and you tell people it needs to be ballanced (but its not going to) you would be ******ed not to use it yourself. 3) if you want to contest the way he is using that please provide related links of your vast experiance in fighting against dhb. (or for that matter anyone... 300 kills - 100 losses is at best someone who is on pvp training wheels.)
1. When approached with a problem in EVE, lets assume you have two options on how you handle it.
a. You cry like a little girl without her teddy bear because it doesn't suit your gameplay. b. HTFU. Adapt or die
I'm going to take a wild shot in the dark, but the crybabies aren't really good players at this game.
2. Overheat. Learning to manually fly and timing overheat correctly used to get me nanoHAC killmails like it was going out of style. Since I'm an just angry and bitter d00d, I'd imagine any EVE supahstar could have done it 1000x better than me 
3. I only saw him in space once. I was all alone in my lolPest with 2x TDs. He would have uncloaked his falcon as fast as he could access that character and I would have just ended up warping back out.

As far as my stats go... The PVP LEGEND DHB has an efficiency that is 29.62% lower than mine (numbers provided by Battleclinic).
We all know statistics provide an unbiased measure of a player's skills, right? 
so after that long rant about adapt or die, your best first hand knowledge of dhbs piloting style comes from false assumptions which ended in you running away from him (despite you thinking you could take him 1 v 1 - which i would be glad to tell you theres no chance in hell you could have).
also in claiming that you have "two options with how to deal with it" you reveal lack of thought on the part of your argument and more importantly your game play. you missed about another million options the crucial one which i have already outlined in this thread. being - knowing something is ******ed, stating it then taking it seriously/into account. so again i have to say: just because there are people out there who know that there are broken things in this game, ie jams, jam drones, jump bridges, stealth bombers, sig tank, certain faction cruisers, the alliance tourney format, local chat. because we see these as problems and complain about them, does not make us ignorant or worse. in fact i would argue it shows we have a better understanding of this game.
only a sith deals in absolutes... well a sith or a moron.
. MINIGIN! The original colour poster - now surrounding you in limegreen.
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DHB WildCat
Flash Over. WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.03.20 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: DHB WildCat on 20/03/2010 16:24:14 Holy **** the smack in here is wonderful!
First thing first... This was an awesome fight, the most fun I had had since I lost my Nightmare in Ihakana. It was much closer than the killboard may state. So GF! as was shared in local.
So recap anyone? Then we can all smack each other 8P. BTW the op I take as a gf post and thank you for it, as I return your feelings on it.
So here we go....
Gang composition
2x Basilisks 1x Falcon 1x Machariel 1x Navy Mega 1x Vindicator 1x Nightmare 1x Sleipner 1x Rapier
So what happened. A nuetral scout not in gang reports a small enemy fleet in IPAY. 1 jump past P3E into 0.0. I rush over as fast as I can to get them aggroed and a fun fight commences.
IPAY fight
This gang leaves, and I begin my looting adventures. At this time my girlfriend comes in and tells me about her day. This last 15 minutes. When I return I find that Love Kebab, and Half of my gang has left. They are now in Obe heading to Hakonen.
My scout sees 2 dictors on the IPAY gate in P3E. I call my guys back. I think Im about to get DD again, but **** it I loves fights. To my pleasure I jump in and the dictors warp to the gate.
I am now bubbled off the gate and shooting at the dictors... I think if I can pop them before a cyno goes up Im golden. To my suurprise and pleasure local goes up to 40. They are coming in via the jumpbridge. I start yelling at my guys now. "Get back here lets roll!" Gang at this moment is my falcon, Nightmare, and Institutes duel accounting basilisks.
First ship to land is an onieros... I laugh, bye bye onieros. Now down one of their logistic ships, I work on the next onieros and make it warp. Next a couple of ships land and my eyes fix on their ecm. 1 Falcon and 2 Blackbirds. They are now my primaries for both my Nightmare and Falcon.
My falcon loses the jam war and quickly his ship as well. At this time Hey You's Rapier, and hundurinn's sleipner land and begin to work on their ecm.
Gang compostion... 1x Nightmare 1x Falcon (dead) 2x Basilisks 1x Rapier 1x Sleipner
(the Mach, Navy Mega, and Vindi never come back)
Through this time damage is split between my Nightmare and one of Institute's basilisks. He does everything he can to keep both ships alive. One Bassy goes down and the other is forced to leave. All the while Im still trying to LK to come back in his 1400 mach to pop some of these thoraxes.
I begin overheating my tanking mods, but they are just breaking my tank. Its close but eventually Ill go down if I dont take out just a couple more thoraxes / Brutix.
Im getting close to even on the boost / damage taken to even it out. I begin to hit armor... Jammed.... damn it was so close. Liturally one or two more ships and the tide would have turned.
P3E fight
Down I go, I call the rest of my gang out and luckily my pod lives again!
So much fun. I would and will do it again! This is what the game is for. Even fun fights. I guess for now its back to plexes and high sec suicide ganking until another is made 8p.
Indy goes down, thank you for the isk
Thank you guys for the fight, I would rather fight and die than see people run.
WildCat
PS no orange so you can see the links 8P
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DeathsEmbrace
Minmatar Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2010.03.20 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat So much fun. I would and will do it again! This is what the game is for. Even fun fights. I guess for now its back to plexes and high sec suicide ganking until another is made 8p.
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QFT - with solo effectively dead due to blobs of varying size a lot of pvpers have adapted to using alts as support, Falcon alts have been around for ages. As to the comments about the isk lost, for some of us it doesn't matter. We want the fight, win or loose we don't care so long as its fun, and equally wont resort to cheap tactics to avoid a loss if it goes bad. We make the isk to fly the way we do to you a a ded fit mare may cost a fortune, for us its an excuse to enjoy our hard gotten gains.
At some point DHB, VOLTRON and BYDI should get a organised fight going, should be a real pleasure. To live is to die, and to die is to give life. Thus pain is a form of euphoria.
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arbiter reformed
Minmatar Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.03.20 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: DeathsEmbrace
Originally by: DHB WildCat So much fun. I would and will do it again! This is what the game is for. Even fun fights. I guess for now its back to plexes and high sec suicide ganking until another is made 8p.
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QFT - with solo effectively dead due to blobs of varying size a lot of pvpers have adapted to using alts as support, Falcon alts have been around for ages. As to the comments about the isk lost, for some of us it doesn't matter. We want the fight, win or loose we don't care so long as its fun, and equally wont resort to cheap tactics to avoid a loss if it goes bad. We make the isk to fly the way we do to you a a ded fit mare may cost a fortune, for us its an excuse to enjoy our hard gotten gains.
At some point DHB, VOLTRON and BYDI should get a organised fight going, should be a real pleasure.
10 v 10 we should do it :) Signature graphics that may only contain your character name, corporation logo, corporation or personal slogan or other text that is directly related to your in-game persona, or content directly related to Eve Online. All content must be in good taste.Applebabe
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Morgan Rose
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.03.20 19:42:00 -
[80]
DHB: Awesome, thanks for the real story on what transpired. Excellent.
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Ugluuk
Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2010.03.20 23:12:00 -
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Unlike most of the tards that either keep these ships docked or think 5 civilian boosters is a good tank he uses it the way it is ment to be used.. Pimped and smoked up in the end..
This is good ****!!
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The'Best Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2010.03.20 23:33:00 -
[82]
You forgot to post in orange.
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F90OEX
F9X
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Posted - 2010.03.21 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: K1RTH G3RS3N how do you guys (dhb and other dudes) manage to use such expensive ships so regularly? somebody teach me!
Yes indeed teach me !!!! 
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2010.03.21 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: Artemis Rose on 21/03/2010 00:36:09
Originally by: Dr Ngo
Confirming that efficiency is literally 100% of what is important in eve.
Oh it totally is!! I put the smiley there to make you know I'm 100% certain of it.
Originally by: Minigin (and a quick glance shows me that you spend most your time camping lowsec gates. so congrats on shooting yourself in the foot and claiming to know anything about real pvp.
A quick glance says DHB is on the same level of ::lolSiig:: when it comes to ISK buying.
Should we trust our quick glances?
Originally by: Minigin i bet you are really glad you stuck your nose into this thread now.
Yeah I really am.
I brought you out of DHB's ass and into some fresh air. I won't lie, it makes me feel pretty dang good you can breathe easier because of my efforts.
Plus, over 9000! bonus points I got you to "RAGE HURF BLURF" vomit all over this thread in response to my sarcastic analogies and remarks, which makes for a pretty good troll by C&P standards.
I eagerly await some more "SRS BIZNIZ"
*** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |

mishkof
Caldari Emerald Empire
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Posted - 2010.03.21 01:20:00 -
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I seriously am confused about this thread. Is minigan DHB? Did minigan die or did DHB? Is minigan someones repper/falcon alt? What is with all the minigan rage? Is minigan just a nut rider? I dont understand anymore.
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Minigin
Trinity Corp WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.03.21 01:51:00 -
[86]
Edited by: Minigin on 21/03/2010 01:54:00
Originally by: Artemis Rose Edited by: Artemis Rose on 21/03/2010 00:36:09
Originally by: Dr Ngo
Confirming that efficiency is literally 100% of what is important in eve.
Oh it totally is!! I put the smiley there to make you know I'm 100% certain of it.
Originally by: Minigin (and a quick glance shows me that you spend most your time camping lowsec gates. so congrats on shooting yourself in the foot and claiming to know anything about real pvp.
A quick glance says DHB is on the same level of ::lolSiig:: when it comes to ISK buying.
Should we trust our quick glances?
Originally by: Minigin i bet you are really glad you stuck your nose into this thread now.
Yeah I really am.
I brought you out of DHB's ass and into some fresh air. I won't lie, it makes me feel pretty dang good you can breathe easier because of my efforts.
Plus, over 9000! bonus points I got you to "RAGE HURF BLURF" vomit all over this thread in response to my sarcastic analogies and remarks, which makes for a pretty good troll by C&P standards.
I eagerly await some more "SRS BIZNIZ"
and just like that, youve managed to drop off again. i either hit a nerve in the last post (im guessing the falcon/lowsec one) or you realised you are plain wrong. which it is doesnt matter, but i can tell because of the following.
rather than comment on pvp you have deviated to isk buying and "brown nosing" which while im sure you feel are very relevant to my opinions on eve pvp, trust me they are not.
as for "all your sarcastic analogies and remarks", you litteraly made one. which was based on a false assumption. "i admire people who complain about falcons while running around with their own" which essentially echos your earlier post of "For the people smacking about how many people it took...
With all the scouts, EWAR and RR support he generally brings with him, you'll need a sizable fleet to knock him out in 60 seconds. Take that Nightmare off the gate, without all its support... and you'll see it go down to a MUCH smaller force. Hell, your average Curse and a regular gank BS could take it out pretty easily." (which btw is even funnier now that you have preached about adapt or die) - (it also screams of pirate trying to claim that gate camping with a bunch of bs is legitimate pvp because GUYS ITS A TACTIC TO BRING SO MUCH DPS THAT YOU GET INSTAPOPPED!!!!!)
i point out, that these are based on false assumptions and general ignorance, and you run around "BAHAHAHA I TROLLED YOU LOLOLOLOLOL! IM A MASTER TROLL! / YOUR BROWN NOSING"
furthermore on a slight tangent, it should be noted that taking an opinion on something is a sign of having thought it through / having had experiance of such things. if your council tries to discredit a friend of yours with falsified information i bet you would sit there on your hands and say "well i guess i would be brown nosing if i said anything..."
you know it would have been easier for you to say "whoops ok i had no idea what im talking about, i didnt realise at the time, thanks for telling me bai" which is essentially what you have guised under your last "it was all a troll" post. . MINIGIN! The original colour poster - now surrounding you in limegreen.
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Si'ren
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Posted - 2010.03.21 03:36:00 -
[87]
Confirming that THE SPACE POLICE are easy-mode Hagilur-"pirating" chumps.
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AdmiralJohn
The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.21 03:43:00 -
[88]
Confirming I like watching people argue over internet spaceship statistics.
Also, once I pushed a cripple in the hallway.
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Mahke
Aeon Of Strife Discord.
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Posted - 2010.03.21 04:55:00 -
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Edited by: Mahke on 21/03/2010 05:01:03 Edited by: Mahke on 21/03/2010 04:54:47 Yo minigin I'ma let you finish, but if you're gonna white-knight you should do it in white not green.
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Originally by: DHB WildCat Edited by: DHB WildCat on 20/03/2010 16:24:14 PS no orange so you can see the links 8P
Get out imposter.
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Whiny McEmokid
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Posted - 2010.03.21 07:35:00 -
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i'm a big fan of irony so i don't read the coloured posts.
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