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Hesperius
No Salvation
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.03.19 08:06:00 -
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Edited by: Hesperius on 19/03/2010 08:12:03
Over the last couple years I ran this idea by several people and they liked it and wanted me to post it here on the forums. Finally I have some time I am willing to spend laying it out visually. The concept here is to streamline what we already have at our disposal. Reconfiguring so that information we want is closer together and as few as clicks away as possible.
If you are a little confused about what each section does, please read the description. Video may follow if it is still confusing.
the concept
(flag icon) ôCommon Destinationsö
This basically takes places you have in your bookmarks and makes them easily accessible. Ideally users would setup their own groups, call them what they want and have as many drop downs as they want.
(planet arrow icon) ôCurrent Routeö
This combines the information we have on the left with the information we can get from going to the star map.
(four bars icon) ô_____ Solar Systemö
Taking the only useful info from the map browser and moving it here.
(gradient outline ball icon) ôProximityö
Focusing on the system you are in, gives you information about the system you are heading to and some additional information about adjacent systems.
Why?
ôCommon Destinationsö - Right people either use the note pad or their assets window for common destinations. I've even setup specific chat channels for common way points. Using the systems in place now works, but being able to click drag destinations into a navigation specific window would be ACE in my book.
ôCurrent Routeö - If you have several systems to stop in, unless you are on autopilot you may skip right over them because the info on the left of our screens does not say when to stop. The best way to see the info is in the map/autopilot/way points tab. Even though you have your overview available, you can not see the space around you, and getting the sense of what is around you is even worse if you have a 'travel' overview setting. Merging the map/autopilot/way points tab with the standard ôautopilotö (navigation) info on the left into a specific tab would improve the clumsy feel we have now of getting that same information.
ôProximityö - All to often you have to find an alternate route. Sometimes you have to find it quickly and fumbling around menus is extremely frustrating. It is information that we already have it is just extremely difficult to get it all at once. The proximity window solves this. It gets most pilots who would need a navigation tab the info they want. |
Sphit Ker
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Posted - 2010.03.19 08:57:00 -
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This is most excellent. Thanks you for taking the time to make a spiffy UI mockup. I can see this going places 
Can I take out a box off the panel? Since you plan to remove the route stuff on the left, ItÆd be nice to let me take out the Current Route panel and place it somewhere I like. Also, wouldnÆt the optimize and clear waypoints button be better placed within the Current Route panel? |
Enzu777
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Posted - 2010.03.19 11:16:00 -
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specifically like the proximity map |
Tom French
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Posted - 2010.03.19 19:04:00 -
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I'd definitely use navigation stuff more if eve had this. Supported |
Seth Ruin
Ominous Corp
Primary.
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Posted - 2010.03.19 19:17:00 -
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Not a bad idea. |
Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.03.19 19:43:00 -
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Being able to right-click systems in the route easily would be huge. FCs could set end destination, and right click "broadcast destination" on systems along the way much more easily. Potentially, the FC could see how many fleet members are in each system of the route. Being able to interact with the route more easily like that dramatically opens up all sorts of things that would be useful.
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Notorious BIG
Dies Irae Veniendum Est
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Posted - 2010.03.19 19:47:00 -
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Agreed this is a nice proposition for the CSM, there is the proximity feature that is on itself a nice thing but will eliminate the scouts for a part and make things a bit easier in eve which is a good or a bad thing. Depends how u look at it.
Supported |
Liang Nuren
The Aduro Protocol
Talon Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.20 03:32:00 -
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Fantastic idea Hesp!
-Liang |
Skanthra
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Posted - 2010.03.20 11:06:00 -
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Sounds good
+1
~Skanthra |
Rixiu
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Posted - 2010.03.20 11:43:00 -
[10]
Simply awesome.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.03.20 18:57:00 -
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Very good start!
Would also be usefull to have a mini map section showing your AP route a couple of jumps ahead (and some bordering systems, maybe 2-deep) with the 'statistics' options from the main f10 starmap.
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Colonel Evans
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Posted - 2010.03.20 19:27:00 -
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Would love to see this implemented CCP, get to eet! 
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Fille Balle
Ballbreakers R us
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Posted - 2010.03.20 19:57:00 -
[13]
Awesome. Want, naow!
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Grideris
Alien Ship Builders
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Posted - 2010.03.22 05:42:00 -
[14]
That. Is. So. Awesome.
Do. Want.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.03.22 07:31:00 -
[15]
Heck yes
 Originally by: Jim Raynor
EVE needs danger, EVE needs risks, EVE needs combat, even piracy, without these things, the game stagnates to a trivial game centering around bloating your wallet with no purpose.
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Vespoi Filar
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Posted - 2010.03.22 17:43:00 -
[16]
oh hell yes! gief nao!
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Celeste Coeval
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2010.03.22 18:08:00 -
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YES YES YES
Originally by: Lance Fighter
This is either a troll or a noob... Ill take the noob route. |
OwlManAtt
Dreddit
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Posted - 2010.03.22 19:21:00 -
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That is a smashing idea.
Just need to remember a panel with the solar system map so I can see where my dscanner is pointing.
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AndrewNardella
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Posted - 2010.03.23 04:47:00 -
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Looks like win, tho I would prob never use it, living in W-Space.
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Bartimeaus d'Ray
Minmatar
V3SPA GROUP HOLDING
V3SPA Community
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Posted - 2010.03.23 20:45:00 -
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Very good use of the F11 button!
CEO V3SPA GROUP
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Devlyn McKhon
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Posted - 2010.03.23 21:39:00 -
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I like this idea my self, and give it my suport, as noted would still need to maintain a solor system frame some where.
Also a sugestion, as was said, traveling and keeping tabs on your set way points is a pain, in the travel info on left side, we se all our stops represented with dots, coler coded to system security, how about puting a circle arond any system with a way point, then at a glance you can se where there set in your rout.
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Hesperius
No Salvation
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.03.23 23:59:00 -
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Hey I am allowed to give support to my own idea! XD
Solar System map: If you guys take a second look at the image, it is still there, just collapsed as I did not feel it needed to be demonstrated.
If you notice the systems that are displayed in bold letters in the 'current route' section, those are the current way points. I do like the circle around the dots idea though.
Thanks everyone for the support and feedback.
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Lorkin Desal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.03.24 11:53:00 -
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Good Job!
Supported, a very well thought out proposition.
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cBOLTSON
Shadow Legion.
Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.03.24 13:25:00 -
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Me likes! :)
Well thought out. /supported.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.03.24 15:27:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Grideris
That. Is. So. Awesome.
Do. Want.
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Verys
Burning Technologies
Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.03.24 18:07:00 -
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Very nice job on the concept, I seriously hope something like this will get implemented.
Add drone repair bays to carriers |
Taudia
Sane Industries Inc.
Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.03.24 18:09:00 -
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Supported.
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Liang Nuren
The Aduro Protocol
Talon Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.28 23:50:00 -
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Looks like overwhelming support up in the house here! We should get some more of that.
-Liang
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Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire |
Klyria
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.03.29 00:05:00 -
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Yeah, I'd be for this.
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rantuket
SPORADIC MOVEMENT
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Posted - 2010.03.29 06:10:00 -
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Doing small gang roams this would make my life so much easier as an FC and scout. +1
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Gigiarc
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Posted - 2010.03.29 07:52:00 -
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Bomberlocks
Star Bombers
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Posted - 2010.03.29 11:11:00 -
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Wonderful idea!
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Mynxee
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.03.30 12:57:00 -
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That is a lovely idea, and exactly the kind of well-thought out effort that deserves the CSM's and CCP's attention.
My Blog: Life in Low Sec |
Marquis d'Carabas
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Posted - 2010.03.30 14:45:00 -
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
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Posted - 2010.04.09 22:25:00 -
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Did we ever hear anything about this? How do you get feedback on threads?
-Liang
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Deux Machina
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Posted - 2010.04.13 05:12:00 -
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great idea!
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Devlyn McKhon
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Posted - 2010.04.13 18:03:00 -
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Going to bump this one again, this is a very good idea, the more i think on it the more i would like to se somthing like this implemented.
As it is now, the only time i hit F11 is by accident, then it gets hit again as i close those map windows, they just dont present any information that i find usfull.
I always use the normal map window when i wish to view system map, using these window to present players with information they use on a normal basis would be a vast improvment.
Realy hope ccp will jump on this and give us somthing usfull with F11.
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Soapy5
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2010.04.26 05:33:00 -
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the players of eve support this. all of them
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Amber Michaels
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Posted - 2010.04.26 11:49:00 -
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supported
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Vala Drysi
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Posted - 2010.04.26 19:20:00 -
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supported
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.04.26 19:58:00 -
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Great idea. One little feature to add - make it so we can set destination to a given region or a given sovereignty, and not just a system.
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Cheekything
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2010.04.26 23:57:00 -
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Yes Please
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Cinori Aluben
Gladiators of Rage
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.04.27 22:10:00 -
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Very well-thought out, and I love the concept picture. I've actually talked with mates about this before, as one of the suggestions of my campaign, actually making the F11 window a viable tool. Very nice mate.
Putting these types of "Little Things First" is the base of my platform for CSM. All those "I wish they would just..." ideas. Make EVE more efficient, tightened, honed. Just 5 little things like this would create a synergy to greatly improve daily gameplay.
See my full campaign message here: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1306978
I am also featuring your suggestion in an interview I am doing that will be seen on this site: http://keithneilson.co.uk/
Thanks for the suggestion!
Vote Cinori Aluben CSM5 2010"Fix The Little Things First!"
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Tibalt Avalon
Suck my Titan
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Posted - 2010.04.28 02:58:00 -
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Posting in a UI Improvement Thread
Hardstyle Ambassador |
Boraf Flux
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Posted - 2010.04.28 13:23:00 -
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Much needed.
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sakana
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.28 13:27:00 -
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seems pretty cool, and can't think of any serious downsides, so why not
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Maxsim Goratiev
Imperial Tau Syndicate
Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.04.28 15:33:00 -
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absolutely.. and why can we not see csm picking this up?
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scunner funk
Connoisseurs Of Hallucination
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Posted - 2010.04.28 20:17:00 -
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+1, well thought out and that mock up was sexy.
One thing that wasn't clear on the mock up was how far you can collapse the box. If i'm hunting then the only useful thing on the F11 menu is the solar system panel, It bugs me that I have to have a massive bar taking up the right side of the screen when all I want is one little box.
Originally by: Maxsim Goratiev
absolutely.. and why can we not see csm picking this up?
 You're new to this section of the forums aren't you.
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yani dumyat
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2010.04.30 01:36:00 -
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Edited by: yani dumyat on 30/04/2010 01:37:51
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Did we ever hear anything about this? How do you get feedback on threads?
-Liang
You spend 18 months to two tears bumping the thread, during this time heightened stress levels may be experienced and government regulators advise that you don't get pregnant or operate heavy machinery.
It's a sad fact but even after the issue has been raised and passed by the council CCP will devote no extra resources to issues raised by the CSM so time spent in this forum can be considered something of a waste.
It's a shame really because the OP of this thread has hit the nail on the head and come up with an amazing idea for eve that has one small flaw:
CCP
Is
Incapable
Of
Devoting
Dev
Time
To
Player
Ideas
I really want to encourage the OP to keep bumping this thread until something happens but won't lie to you - no one at CCP gives a crap.
Sig_______
"Advice is a form of nostalgia. Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth." |
Highborn Alloy
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Posted - 2010.04.30 03:25:00 -
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Not having to hit F10 to see the way points would be huge deal.
Turning off the awesome graphics of space is always annoying.
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unloadedx16
Hearts Revolution
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Posted - 2010.04.30 04:13:00 -
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Great idea, would organize things much more.
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Icieu
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Posted - 2010.04.30 05:16:00 -
[52]
Would be very helpful
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greymouse
Black Eclipse Corp
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Posted - 2010.04.30 10:36:00 -
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Want!!!
/supported
Cry Havoc!! Release the Mice of Menace!!! |
Phoenix T'ril
Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2010.04.30 19:36:00 -
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Yes, absolutely. Sooner the better.
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hgedsku
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Posted - 2010.04.30 19:48:00 -
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good idea
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Theorin R
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Posted - 2010.05.01 02:03:00 -
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Lots of support from me. Had a similiar idea.
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Half Cocked
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Posted - 2010.05.04 17:36:00 -
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Definite support of.
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Hilda B9
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Posted - 2010.05.04 20:19:00 -
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Me love it long time
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Koryitsu
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Posted - 2010.05.04 21:00:00 -
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Agreed this would definitely streamline data retrieval for FC's.
100% supported.
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Thandormi
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Posted - 2010.05.05 19:44:00 -
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.05.05 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Maxsim Goratiev
absolutely.. and why can we not see csm picking this up?
Ask and thou shalt receive.
This signature is useless, but it is red.
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Krathos Morpheus
Legion Infernal
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Posted - 2010.05.06 04:54:00 -
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EVEwatch Sidebar soon
"It is the unofficial force ù the Jita irregulars. " |
Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.05.06 07:24:00 -
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It's already been to CSM, but can't hurt to show support for this now :)
[Aussie players: join channels ANZAC or AUSSIES] |
Devlyn McKhon
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Posted - 2010.05.12 18:58:00 -
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bump, with two thumbs up.
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Grath Moncalimar
Penumbra Military Industrial Complex
Origin of Symmetry
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Posted - 2010.06.22 23:37:00 -
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To boldly go...you know the rest, HA!
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