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Atrocitus Parallax
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2012.07.03 14:26:00 -
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I average 2-3 hours a night, 3-4 nights a week. Is this enough time to accomplish anything?
From what I'm reading big group PVP requires too much prep, organization, and consecutive gameplay for me to do it. Small PVP wolf packs might be an option. Missions seem doable other than the fact that I'm rarely able to get the time bonus, and once in a while I lose one entirely because I take too long to accept. Mining seems doable if not for being less exciting than watching paint dry.
So I guess my question is, with EVE being the type of game where you get back what you put in, is my limited time enough to get a good return or am I destined to spend eveturnity trailing behind the curve? |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
217
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Posted - 2012.07.03 14:31:00 -
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there is no curve. |

Adoro
Reikoku
0
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Posted - 2012.07.03 14:34:00 -
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2-3 hours, 3-4 nights!? The envy...I can do 2 hours a week tops  |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
404
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Posted - 2012.07.03 14:34:00 -
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You have more time than it's needed to accomplish stuff and be a very handy member for organised and mature pvp or whatever corporations.
I rather have a guy pointing his nose once a week for 3 or 4 hours ready to fight and learn than a 7/7 23/24h **** that has always something to do when it comes to serious business.
Pvp can also be rewarding (isk wise) and you don't have to do it each time you log on, every one understands you need isk for pods ammo ships etc but basically once you brought the ship with in the reimbursement program or have the right skills (when it's up to alliance hangar) your pvp cost peanuts.
You just need to find the good people to join, learn to have fun dyeing and show interest on your corporation/alliance goals, isk comes and goes and you will often find people ready to learn you how to make isk easier or help you get some.
Inspect corporations and alliances forums, discuss with players and recruiters, be honest and you'll find a lot of people like you managing to have fun and be great corporation assets. brb |

Signal11th
580
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Posted - 2012.07.03 14:35:00 -
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Atrocitus Parallax wrote:I average 2-3 hours a night, 3-4 nights a week. Is this enough time to accomplish anything?
From what I'm reading big group PVP requires too much prep, organization, and consecutive gameplay for me to do it. Small PVP wolf packs might be an option. Missions seem doable other than the fact that I'm rarely able to get the time bonus, and once in a while I lose one entirely because I take too long to accept. Mining seems doable if not for being less exciting than watching paint dry.
So I guess my question is, with EVE being the type of game where you get back what you put in, is my limited time enough to get a good return or am I destined to spend eveturnity trailing behind the curve?
it's more than what I get on EVE now but I still trade, fight, troll, buy stuff/sell stuff loot do plexes and explore. It's more than enough time to have fun make money and annoy people. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |

Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
166
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Posted - 2012.07.03 14:36:00 -
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Atrocitus Parallax wrote:I average 2-3 hours a night, 3-4 nights a week. Is this enough time to accomplish anything?
From what I'm reading big group PVP requires too much prep, organization, and consecutive gameplay for me to do it. Small PVP wolf packs might be an option. Missions seem doable other than the fact that I'm rarely able to get the time bonus, and once in a while I lose one entirely because I take too long to accept. Mining seems doable if not for being less exciting than watching paint dry.
So I guess my question is, with EVE being the type of game where you get back what you put in, is my limited time enough to get a good return or am I destined to spend eveturnity trailing behind the curve?
You would be shocked how many null sec/wh/low PvP corps will take any competent human who can fly a frigate.
Use the corp tool, the advertisements are set by total skill points, if they don't want someone with 5mill SP or 10 or whatever, it will say in the ad.
The most important first step in PvP is to join a corp. I'm an American, English is my second language... |

Gun Gal
Dark Club
20
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Posted - 2012.07.03 14:36:00 -
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If you like eve you'll be OK.
I used to hardcore eve, now im bout same boat as you.
I'd suggest getting two accounts though, you will have an easier time accomplishing things though.
And small scale pvp, 2 ships is fun., and once you get going, you still can get into a decent corp |

Alice Saki
Analog Folk SRS.
133
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Posted - 2012.07.03 14:37:00 -
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That's Fine We just need you to troll the forums for the rest of the time :) Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person |

Atrocitus Parallax
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2012.07.03 14:43:00 -
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Thanks for the feedback everyone, good info and inspiring. I used to run around in DF but once my play time was reduced I got pretty far behind the curve which greatly impacted my gameplay so I was concerned. |

Signal11th
580
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Posted - 2012.07.03 14:48:00 -
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Atrocitus Parallax wrote:Thanks for the feedback everyone, good info and inspiring. I used to run around in DF but once my play time was reduced I got pretty far behind the curve which greatly impacted my gameplay so I was concerned.
It's the great thing about EVE because you can train offline so to speak you are never behind the curve. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |

Jafit
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
268
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Posted - 2012.07.03 15:26:00 -
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Atrocitus Parallax wrote:I average 2-3 hours a night, 3-4 nights a week. Is this enough time to accomplish anything?
From what I'm reading big group PVP requires too much prep, organization, and consecutive gameplay for me to do it. Small PVP wolf packs might be an option. Missions seem doable other than the fact that I'm rarely able to get the time bonus, and once in a while I lose one entirely because I take too long to accept. Mining seems doable if not for being less exciting than watching paint dry.
So I guess my question is, with EVE being the type of game where you get back what you put in, is my limited time enough to get a good return or am I destined to spend eveturnity trailing behind the curve?
You'll probably never be as 'successful' at Eve as some of the autistic, unemployed, basement dwelling neckbeard virgins that make Eve their life and take it super seriously (sup PL), but you can definitly be viable if you find your niche.
Different 'big groups' have different approaches to PvP, and expect different things from their members. For example a lot of groups that consider themselves to be 'elite' will have what they call a CTA or Call To Arms, which is a compulsary fleet that you have to go to. They'll set all ratting taxes to 100%, they'll fine you for not turning up, they'll generally do everything possible to suck the fun out of the game for you. But there are many major alliances that would never do such a disgusting and terrible thing to their members. I don't think any members of the CFC/Honeybadger bloc have CTAs.
So you just have to find a group of players that respects the fact that you have a life and that Eve is a game that should be fun.
I would also advise against mining as a means of income, you have to train a skillset seperate from the ones you want for PvP, and plus it's the least rewarding and highest risk activity in the game. Try station trading instead, you can do it on an alt with only a modest skill investment. |

Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.07.03 15:40:00 -
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Jafit wrote:
You'll probably never be as 'successful' at Eve as some of the autistic, unemployed, basement dwelling neckbeard virgins that make Eve their life and take it super seriously (sup PL), but you can definitly be viable if you find your niche.
Different 'big groups' have different approaches to PvP, and expect different things from their members. For example a lot of groups that consider themselves to be 'elite' will have what they call a CTA or Call To Arms, which is a compulsary fleet that you have to go to. They'll set all ratting taxes to 100%, they'll fine you for not turning up, they'll generally do everything possible to suck the fun out of the game for you. But there are many major alliances that would never do such a disgusting and terrible thing to their members. I don't think any members of the CFC/Honeybadger bloc have CTAs.
So you just have to find a group of players that respects the fact that you have a life and that Eve is a game that should be fun.
I hear dumb **** like this all the time, and it's so not true. Only idiots say things like that, so big surprise someone from CFC says it. The only alliance have ever been in that had stupid mandatory CTAs and high tax rate was a CFC pet alliance (Black Mark last year). You will find most corps are friendly, don't care if you can't play daily, as long as when you do play you're a team player. Just avoid pet corps of the major alliances, pet corps don't often get a lot of respect from their masters.
You have plenty of time to PvP solo or in a group. We scramble fleets in 5-10 min, then our roams are 1-2 hours, so that fits in your time schedule. Our alliance is also awesome (like many NPC-Nul alliance) if you have to dock away from home and leave fleet early, we will send an escort fleet to bring you home next time you are on.
My advice to you, assuming you are new (which is an assumption I am making although it may be false), join RvB or EveUni. Spend your first 1-3 months in one of those training corps. You will learn the basics of Eve and Eve combat much quicker there than by yourself. Then you will be ready to join a non-training PvP corp. |

Cloned S0ul
Blood Fanatics
160
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Posted - 2012.07.03 15:41:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:there is no curve.
http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/devblog/2011/eve-learning-curve.jpg Teemo for president. |

Zyress
The Fabulous Thunderbirds
111
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Posted - 2012.07.03 15:44:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:there is no curve.
There is no spoon |

Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
1368
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Posted - 2012.07.03 15:55:00 -
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That's more time than I generally spend actually being able to play. Some times I might get to play for 5 hours at a stretch. I can't play every day, so when I can I just do whatever for that hour or two, maybe run a mission or go mess with miners. |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
341
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Posted - 2012.07.03 15:57:00 -
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Atrocitus Parallax wrote:I average 2-3 hours a night, 3-4 nights a week. Is this enough time to accomplish anything?
From what I'm reading big group PVP requires too much prep, organization, and consecutive gameplay for me to do it. Small PVP wolf packs might be an option. Missions seem doable other than the fact that I'm rarely able to get the time bonus, and once in a while I lose one entirely because I take too long to accept. Mining seems doable if not for being less exciting than watching paint dry.
So I guess my question is, with EVE being the type of game where you get back what you put in, is my limited time enough to get a good return or am I destined to spend eveturnity trailing behind the curve?
If you play enough to enjoy yourself, what else is there to accomplish? You want fries with that? |

Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.07.03 16:00:00 -
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2-3 hours to earn enough ISK to get a decent PvP ship is doable. 2-3 hours to take a small roam with that ship is doable in a cool corp with an average experienced FC.
So, find your corp, split your time into getting ISK (i.e. missions) and spending it (PvP) and you should have good fun with eve. Imho.
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Atrocitus Parallax
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2012.07.03 16:21:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Atrocitus Parallax wrote:I average 2-3 hours a night, 3-4 nights a week. Is this enough time to accomplish anything?
From what I'm reading big group PVP requires too much prep, organization, and consecutive gameplay for me to do it. Small PVP wolf packs might be an option. Missions seem doable other than the fact that I'm rarely able to get the time bonus, and once in a while I lose one entirely because I take too long to accept. Mining seems doable if not for being less exciting than watching paint dry.
So I guess my question is, with EVE being the type of game where you get back what you put in, is my limited time enough to get a good return or am I destined to spend eveturnity trailing behind the curve? If you play enough to enjoy yourself, what else is there to accomplish?
Quoted because this is pretty much one of the wisest things I've seen said on any MMO forum. |

Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
263
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Posted - 2012.07.03 17:35:00 -
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The really innovative thing that EVE has is the feature that allows you to train for things even when you have no time to play. You are not falling behind as much as you might think. Get into a corp with goals and a ship replacement program; you'll find there is something you can do to contriobute during times you can play.. and you may not needs a big or expensive ship to do it. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG] |

Rats
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
69
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Posted - 2012.07.03 17:40:00 -
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Atrocitus Parallax wrote:I average 2-3 hours a night, 3-4 nights a week. Is this enough time to accomplish anything?
From what I'm reading big group PVP requires too much prep, organization, and consecutive gameplay for me to do it. Small PVP wolf packs might be an option. Missions seem doable other than the fact that I'm rarely able to get the time bonus, and once in a while I lose one entirely because I take too long to accept. Mining seems doable if not for being less exciting than watching paint dry.
So I guess my question is, with EVE being the type of game where you get back what you put in, is my limited time enough to get a good return or am I destined to spend eveturnity trailing behind the curve?
Wish I had that time. That's plenty enough to do everything including PVP for corps and alliances. Its when your down to 2/3 hours a week and can't say when you will be on that time constraints become a problem.
Tal
-áI Fought the Law, and the Law Won... -áTalon Silverhawk-á |

Aliaksandre
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
47
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Posted - 2012.07.03 18:05:00 -
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As people have said , you are always training offline so you should, at the very least, never feel like you are doing "nothing."
Pick a nice area that has the agents you want for missions or whatever bear activities you want to do, and has an entrance to low sec. If you only have an hour or so to play, its easy to just jump in a frigate and roam around low sec looking for something to kill :) |

Rath Kelbore
The Six-Pack Syndicate
251
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Posted - 2012.07.03 19:28:00 -
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Atrocitus Parallax wrote:I average 2-3 hours a night, 3-4 nights a week. Is this enough time to accomplish anything?
From what I'm reading big group PVP requires too much prep, organization, and consecutive gameplay for me to do it. Small PVP wolf packs might be an option. Missions seem doable other than the fact that I'm rarely able to get the time bonus, and once in a while I lose one entirely because I take too long to accept. Mining seems doable if not for being less exciting than watching paint dry.
So I guess my question is, with EVE being the type of game where you get back what you put in, is my limited time enough to get a good return or am I destined to spend eveturnity trailing behind the curve?
That is plenty of time to play. What you need to find however, is a group that consistently does whatever activity you wish to do in a time frame that works for you. For example, my corp usually has some form of roam that begins at 0200-0300 or so.
Let's call it 3 hours that you're online, that gives you a good probability of 2 hours of roaming(or whatever)most days you log on.
TL;DR - Find group that does stuff when you're on. I plan on living forever.......so far, so good. |

Gaellia Bonaventure
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
193
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Posted - 2012.07.03 20:45:00 -
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You are playing a lot more than I currently am able.  Bring your possibles. |

Corvus Borealis
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.07.03 20:49:00 -
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Atrocitus Parallax wrote:I average 2-3 hours a night, 3-4 nights a week. Is this enough time to accomplish anything?
From what I'm reading big group PVP requires too much prep, organization, and consecutive gameplay for me to do it. Small PVP wolf packs might be an option. Missions seem doable other than the fact that I'm rarely able to get the time bonus, and once in a while I lose one entirely because I take too long to accept. Mining seems doable if not for being less exciting than watching paint dry.
So I guess my question is, with EVE being the type of game where you get back what you put in, is my limited time enough to get a good return or am I destined to spend eveturnity trailing behind the curve? This is a game.
Your goal is to have fun. |

MadMuppet
A Better Corp Name
493
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Posted - 2012.07.03 22:20:00 -
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Corvus Borealis wrote: This is a game.
Your goal is to have fun.
^^^ This.
For the time windows I have, which are generally similar to the OP's:
I can do some scanning, often I''ll make a 'throw away' ship and venture in to WH space and see if I make it out with an sleeper salvage.
Or I throw in a movie/surf while running a mining mission (especially if I scanned down a good grav site, but I will mine mission areas too.
I can blitz a bunch of level 3 missions or a couple level 4s
Pile up all my crap and melt it all down to see what I have accumulated.
Jump in to a FW corp for a couple days and get blown up.
Once I week or so, when I remember, I go pick up and sell my PI stuff.
Sometimes I just jump in to the help channel and help people. If I tried to make a type of coffee that made all of you happy, and you rated it, the group score for it would be about 60 out of 100. Break into 3 or 4 coffee clusters, and made coffee just for each cluster, the scores would go from 60 to 78. The difference between coffee at 60 and coffee at 78 is a difference between coffee that makes you wince or makes you happy. |

Marconus Orion
Massive PVPness
161
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Posted - 2012.07.03 22:30:00 -
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Thought topic was about training Gallente. Left disappointed. |

Annabell Ood
Ood Mineral Resources Management
1
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Posted - 2012.07.03 22:47:00 -
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From what I am reading friend your main problem is that you don't know what you want to do in EVE. EVE is a mature game and it takes patience and some vision.
I would suggest a "shotgun" approach and do some research. for example- If missions are giving you a bother then see what ship and skillz you should be useing. Get involved with FW and loose a few frigs ( if you can afford it). Maybe check out the market with trading/hauling. Try out a little salvage action and learn how to work with probes.
After a few weeks of that start setting some goals for yourself and you will really start to see why EVE is where you want to spend your time. |

Jimmy Gunsmythe
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
54
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Posted - 2012.07.03 22:55:00 -
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Yeah, I get an hour here, two hours there. Not doing much with that time, waiting for skills to go up. I'll probably RvB for awhile, not too demanding over there. After that, who knows. A good predator knows how to live in balance with his prey, lest he follow them into oblivion. |
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