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Pius Piramonde
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Posted - 2010.03.19 19:49:00 -
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Edited by: Pius Piramonde on 19/03/2010 19:54:52
Greetings.
As a cruiser pilot with basic modules, what is the lowest sec of space I can safely kill NPC rats in?
I want to chain-rat some roid belts in low-sec.
Was thinking .3, but can I go lower? Or is .3 too low already?
Any tips? This idea of chain-ratting belts is a new one for me. Let's see if it's as lucrative as I've read...
Thanks! |
Cat o'Ninetails
Rancer Defence League
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Posted - 2010.03.19 19:49:00 -
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hi cat here
when defence operations are live the system of rancer is a good place lol
x |
Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.03.19 19:51:00 -
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Go to Aurohunen/Mara/Dantumi, local is usually pretty empty...
What times do you usually play?  |
Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.03.19 19:55:00 -
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The only safety to be had in low sec regardless of it status is watching local for a spike or if there are pilots in system making sure to keep an eye on the d-scanner and keeping alinged to a warp out destination if a cloaker trys to catch you. Otherwise as soon as you leave .5 space you are fair game to pretty much anyone with a point. |
Pius Piramonde
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Posted - 2010.03.19 19:56:00 -
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Have fun 'cashing in' on all the low-rent modules I'm stacking on this boat...
My tears aren't as yummy as you might think  |
Last Wolf
Rage For Order
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Posted - 2010.03.19 19:59:00 -
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Cruisers can rat in 0.0
The hard part is not getting ganked by 20 or 30 locals. |
Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.03.19 20:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Pius Piramonde
Have fun 'cashing in' on all the low-rent modules I'm stacking on this boat...
My tears aren't as yummy as you might think
Irrelevant. The pilots who will kill you are only after a killmail and could care less if you cry in real life/local chat or not. What you need to focus on is not getting killed so you can justify ratting in low sec over whooring safe level 4 missions for your scratch. |
SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.03.19 20:01:00 -
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Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 19/03/2010 20:03:10
You'd do well all the way down to 0.1 (leave 0.0 for when you have more experience, having a recon/interdictor/HIC drop on you isn't fun if you're not versed on how to avoid getting jumped). Focus more on speed and damage than tank. Anything that can hurt you (frigate through battlecruiser rats) should die in seconds, battleships have terrible tracking and won't hit you much. |
Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.03.19 20:06:00 -
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Heh, missunderstood the op. Yes a decently skilled cruiser will easily kill all rats bs and down in any low sec and most nullsec until you get to the really high level spawns. Just be aware of the type of rats you are after and fit your tank and damage type accourdingly. |
bff Jill
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Posted - 2010.03.19 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Pius Piramonde
Have fun 'cashing in' on all the low-rent modules I'm stacking on this boat...
My tears aren't as yummy as you might think
Irrelevant. The pilots who will kill you are only after a killmail and could care less if you cry in real life/local chat or not. What you need to focus on is not getting killed so you can justify ratting in low sec over whooring safe level 4 missions for your scratch.
So if there were no killmails to *****, low value targets would just be a waste of time to attack, and more people would populate low sec since it would be 'safer', and eventually they would get comfortable and further develop the economy and some would actually start using nice stuff, which could then be taken from them with violence, making low sec both a fun and profitable place to exist for pve and pvp activities.
But thanks to killmails its empty.
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Last Wolf
Rage For Order
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Posted - 2010.03.19 20:11:00 -
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I don't PvP for killmails. I PvP for the pew pew and boom.
Weather it is a kill mail or a loss mail I have fun. |
Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.03.19 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: bff Jill
But thanks to killmails its empty.
Lowsec is empty? Lulz.. You must not have heard of this little thing ccp added called faction warfare.  Also low sec is absolutely brimming with rather nice exploration sites along with good wormholes so there is plenty of economic action with the constant ship destruction due to the heavy fw action along with the new breed of pirates who are mixing it up right beside us faction warriors. Just don't expect to park your hulk in a belt and do any good.  |
bff Jill
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Posted - 2010.03.19 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: bff Jill
But thanks to killmails its empty.
Lowsec is empty? Lulz.. You must not have heard of this little thing ccp added called faction warfare. Also low sec is absolutely brimming with rather nice exploration sites along with good wormholes so there is plenty of economic action with the constant ship destruction due to the heavy fw action along with the new breed of pirates who are mixing it up right beside us faction warriors. Just don't expect to park your hulk in a belt and do any good.
But i want to ransom ratting caracals i can never find any of them anymore =( |
Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.03.19 20:29:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 19/03/2010 20:35:14
Originally by: bff Jill
But i want to ransom ratting caracals i can never find any of them anymore =(
Thats because between mirrorgod's pirate roams and moast of the fw roams I do we have already popped them all. Neutrals are not safe from anyone anymoar.  |
Gladys Pank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.03.19 20:40:00 -
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Edited by: Gladys Pank on 19/03/2010 20:41:04
Edit: forgot to add dotlan link
If you want a 'safer' place to rat, go to Dotlan and look up a region you are interested. Use the filters to find a quiet spot (away from stations, low number of kills, number of npc kills, gate activations etc). You will still have to look out for pirates but should be relatively safe.
Don't stay in one place try to move about a bit. Cruisers are relatively safe to travel low sec in.
90% of specific solar systems you are recommended in threads like these are hotspots for lazy pirates who don't know how to roam and just want you to fall into their blobs. The other 10% get picked up on my the smarter people who will check them out in case you took up the suggestion... or just run a locator on you. |
Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.03.19 22:27:00 -
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Edited by: Barakkus on 19/03/2010 22:28:48
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: bff Jill
But thanks to killmails its empty.
Lowsec is empty? Lulz.. You must not have heard of this little thing ccp added called faction warfare. Also low sec is absolutely brimming with rather nice exploration sites along with good wormholes so there is plenty of economic action with the constant ship destruction due to the heavy fw action along with the new breed of pirates who are mixing it up right beside us faction warriors. Just don't expect to park your hulk in a belt and do any good.
I dunno, I troll around in a rupture looking to get blown up and what usually happens, I'll find a group of frigs happily ratting away in a belt, lock one of them and they all warp off before my lock completes. 
That, or I'll just sit in a belt for an hour and not see a single person warp in.
The only excitement I've had in the last 2 months was running across one of them hellfuries and shooting at everyone, getting in on a km on the myrm, then killing 2 frigs that were killing the myrm... |
Lexx Khadar
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2010.03.19 22:31:00 -
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As said. Its not the rats you have to deal with carefully its the locals. As long as your fitting and skills arent lolworthy most cruisers can deal with all lowsec rats. Just keep local in a separate panel and make it a habit to align to a station or random planet will save you unless your not paying attention.
Chain ratting is still disputed wherever it has any actual effect on spawns etc ( glad to be proven wrong with proof if I am ). I'd just blast what you can and keep belt hopping. If you have a trusty friend to help maybe have them help loot/salvage. In the end what you'll most want to look for are officer spawns. Also keep an eye out for combat exploration sites. If they escalate ( provide another site to continue fighting at ) you can net some nice isk and loot.
Best of luck! |
Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.19 23:32:00 -
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Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 19/03/2010 23:32:51
I will point the OP to Kessians' Low Sec Survival Guide
Originally by: Lexx Khadar
Chain ratting is still disputed wherever it has any actual effect on spawns etc ( glad to be proven wrong with proof if I am ). I'd just blast what you can and keep belt hopping. If you have a trusty friend to help maybe have them help loot/salvage. In the end what you'll most want to look for are officer spawns. Also keep an eye out for combat exploration sites. If they escalate ( provide another site to continue fighting at ) you can net some nice isk and loot.
Best of luck!
I have chained normal spawns before, but I have never successfully chained a faction spawn of any type and I have tried doing a few different ways. I guess I missed something in the past. Also, I have never been able to verify the "kill a rat jump to next system to trigger security status increase, kill another rat and jump to trigger sec status increase" method.
Slade
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Sicil Fioet
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.03.20 00:02:00 -
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double-battleship spawns are kill-able in a cruiser with 3-4 million in skill points in appropriate combat skills
tripple battleships spawns are a bit tough
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.03.20 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Pius Piramonde
Have fun 'cashing in' on all the low-rent modules I'm stacking on this boat...
My tears aren't as yummy as you might think
Poor lil fellow doesnt understand. |
Ahz
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Posted - 2010.03.20 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Pius Piramonde
what is the lowest sec of space I can safely kill NPC rats in?
You are never safe but it's not the rats you should be worried about.
Seriously, if you want to rat in low rent gear get yourself into 0.0.
Many spots in 0.0 that are less crowded than low sec and the bounties are much much better.
Hunt around for a quite system in someplace like Curse or Syndicate (Syndicate is the armpit of Eve, BTW). And kill the small rats until you get confident taking on the bigger ones. Your ISK for hour could be as low as 2 or 3 million. Could be as high as 30 million.
Can't do that in low sec. |
Daplat Mode
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.03.20 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
[Lowsec is empty? Lulz..
Pretty much yeah. Factional warfare hasn't infested all of lowsec. |
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