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Infidus Veritas
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Posted - 2010.03.24 08:52:00 -
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So I had an idea for Eve that would add something to the Corporation Atmosphere. Imagine if you will, that a corporation had the opportunity to install a state of the art Virtual Reality Module(now to be refered to as VRM) that was reverse engineered from the sleepers.This Module would be installed into a POS and give Corp/Alliance a safe enviroment to train there pilots in the ways of combat.
It's a simple concept I know, but an O' so intriguing one. This would give a player the opportunity to hone there fighting skills(and admittedly have some safe fun)against other players and combat designed AI(which would have to be purchases, or more so found seperately).
-The base VRM would only allow corp members to practice against each other.
-Tech 2 version would allow alliance members to practice with each other. At no time could anyone use this to battle someone outside of an alliance for mere sport, simply because I don't want to ruin the cut-throat nature of eve.
-Also Hackers would be able to occassionally find the AI protocol on ships they have destroyed(basically before salvaging you would run a codebreaker). This would allow CEO's to set up challenges for their members and pit them against some of the smartest AI programs in the game, to test their skill before attempting to take over that high value system.
A few things to note,
-the VRM has no consequence for death and consequently no reward for survival. It is nothing more than a safe training enviroment for pilots.
-No money could be earned through the use of VRM aside from personal small bet wagers between members on the outcome of encounters. Nothing like a lil gambling to really push the training experience, though this behavior is highly discouraged due to possibility of corporations/alliance instability to do gambling losses. A CEO would hold reservation whether or not to man his Corp from engaging in such practices.
-A VRM cannot be accessed remotely since ships themselves do not have the technology. The Pilot must be Docked with the POS to utilize the module
-A pilot can only pilot ships in the VRM that the pilot can actually fly in open space. However, the pilot does not need to purchase the ships or equipment to use them in the VRM, just have to appropriate skills needed.
-The Pilot can also use any modules(high,mid,low,rigs,drones..etc) they wish in the VRM as long as they have the proper skill level and can actually use the item in open space.
So that is my idea, and if you support this concept and would like to see something like this implemented please post feedback/support. I think this could breath some serious life into this game and also help strengthen corporation teamwork and player ability.
Thank you all for your time,
Infidus Veritas
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Vespoi Filar
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Posted - 2010.03.24 10:32:00 -
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They tried to create "arenas" a few patches back. The server stared at the idea of "free" ship losses and rejected it totally. The players generally agreed that this was a good thing.
Go play on the test server!
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RootEmerger
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Posted - 2010.03.24 11:04:00 -
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Allready there: its called SISI.
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2010.03.24 13:05:00 -
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No combat without risk!
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Infidus Veritas
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Posted - 2010.03.24 13:52:00 -
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I had an idea that most common response would be ,"but thats what eve's all about. It's for real men who want real risks".
And I get that completely, what I am proposing has nothing to do with arena's and offers no rewards. The risk is still there if you want to make any progress financially. This is simply an "virtual" enviroment that you use to practice fighting techniques with members of your corp. I have been in the military for several years and its training enviroments that make a military strong. You think real pilots dont use flight sims to train still?
Like I said, this module is something that only people within a corp/alliance could use together, and at their own risk since this will also let your co-pilots learn your fighting strategies.
If you have any suggestions or tweaks you think would improve this please post. Even if you feel like just saying "We're to hardcore for virtual reality" in a game then please do so in a creative matter that adds to the post and proves that the Eve community is made up of more intellectual players than its MMO counterparts.
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.03.24 14:03:00 -
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 Originally by: Infidus Veritas
I had an idea that most common response would be ,"but thats what eve's all about. It's for real men who want real risks".
And I get that completely, what I am proposing has nothing to do with arena's and offers no rewards. The risk is still there if you want to make any progress financially. This is simply an "virtual" enviroment that you use to practice fighting techniques with members of your corp. I have been in the military for several years and its training enviroments that make a military strong. You think real pilots dont use flight sims to train still?
Like I said, this module is something that only people within a corp/alliance could use together, and at their own risk since this will also let your co-pilots learn your fighting strategies.
If you have any suggestions or tweaks you think would improve this please post. Even if you feel like just saying "We're to hardcore for virtual reality" in a game then please do so in a creative matter that adds to the post and proves that the Eve community is made up of more intellectual players than its MMO counterparts.
Make it corp events on Singulariy (aka SISI).
Everything costs 100 isk there. You can practice pewpew for hours without getting broke.
The other option is that you can practice with just fighting to structure instead of killing to the end.
With some creativity you can solve it without a single bit more work for CCP.
hope this helps.
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.24 15:21:00 -
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Who said an Arena has to be without risk. Ship losses can easily made as real as any other loss in EVE, but Arenas would allow a kind of controlled environment for people who do not want to wait for hours for something worth shooting. Or the blob vs. bigger blob warfare.
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Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Krist Valentine
Amarr
Diablo Advocatus
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.03.24 16:00:00 -
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no battlegrounds thank you
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Infidus Veritas
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Posted - 2010.03.24 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Krist Valentine
no battlegrounds thank you
Not a battleground. I really dont understand why this is such a hard concept to grasp.
Slowly, gently and carefully step out of that box.
This VRM is only a place to TRAIN yourself. And you can only train with members of your corporation/alliance. If you are one of the people that dont want to train your skills and try daring things to test results then don't and continue as you always do. The people that are using the VRM are gaining no advantage over the people that dont. They get no money, no loot, no rewards, no kill mail, no ANYTHING!!!
All it does is give CEO's an ability to train their members in certain scenario's. You use it to hone your skills, to set up impossible situations to push your skills to the test.
I guess the easiest way to convey this idea to the nerd in everyone is to think of the Danger Room in Xmen.
Please understand this isn't a PVP system, it's not a way to make a safe enviroment to get rewards. It's not that at all. If you want rewards you have to risk it all in Open Space even. But if you want to train, you want to perfect your pilot skills or perfect that certain maneuver your been mulling in your head but never get the chance to try, then the VRM is for you.
I hope to god that you better understand what I am proposing now, and you yourself can step out of the "wow" box.
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Liol Wongster
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Posted - 2010.03.24 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Infidus Veritas
Originally by: Krist Valentine
no battlegrounds thank you
Not a battleground. I really dont understand why this is such a hard concept to grasp.
Slowly, gently and carefully step out of that box.
This VRM is only a place to TRAIN yourself. And you can only train with members of your corporation/alliance. If you are one of the people that dont want to train your skills and try daring things to test results then don't and continue as you always do. The people that are using the VRM are gaining no advantage over the people that dont. They get no money, no loot, no rewards, no kill mail, no ANYTHING!!!
All it does is give CEO's an ability to train their members in certain scenario's. You use it to hone your skills, to set up impossible situations to push your skills to the test.
I guess the easiest way to convey this idea to the nerd in everyone is to think of the Danger Room in Xmen.
Please understand this isn't a PVP system, it's not a way to make a safe enviroment to get rewards. It's not that at all. If you want rewards you have to risk it all in Open Space even. But if you want to train, you want to perfect your pilot skills or perfect that certain maneuver your been mulling in your head but never get the chance to try, then the VRM is for you.
I hope to god that you better understand what I am proposing now, and you yourself can step out of the "wow" box.
It has been said a few times already.
Eve already has this facility, called Sisi. Takes about 5 minutes to set up and costs nothing.
Run a corp op on it for training, all major alliances do this already. (i know of 4 major alliances alone that used Sisi to train pilots how to use stealth bombers correctly after they got boosted)
Catch up and let the devs work on implementing useful features into the game and not cloning Sisi on TQ.
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Infidus Veritas
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Posted - 2010.03.24 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: darius mclever
Originally by: Infidus Veritas
I had an idea that most common response would be ,"but thats what eve's all about. It's for real men who want real risks".
And I get that completely, what I am proposing has nothing to do with arena's and offers no rewards. The risk is still there if you want to make any progress financially. This is simply an "virtual" enviroment that you use to practice fighting techniques with members of your corp. I have been in the military for several years and its training enviroments that make a military strong. You think real pilots dont use flight sims to train still?
Like I said, this module is something that only people within a corp/alliance could use together, and at their own risk since this will also let your co-pilots learn your fighting strategies.
If you have any suggestions or tweaks you think would improve this please post. Even if you feel like just saying "We're to hardcore for virtual reality" in a game then please do so in a creative matter that adds to the post and proves that the Eve community is made up of more intellectual players than its MMO counterparts.
Make it corp events on Singulariy (aka SISI).
Everything costs 100 isk there. You can practice pewpew for hours without getting broke.
The other option is that you can practice with just fighting to structure instead of killing to the end.
With some creativity you can solve it without a single bit more work for CCP.
hope this helps.
Thank you for your post Darius. Yes I understand SiSi exists and its pretty much almost exactly what the "VRM" is. I would just like to see it integrated flawlessly into the eve universe itself. Something about having a virtual enviroment inside and actual virtual enviroment just tickles me. I also think it would be a great training tool for CEO to use on new recruits. I honestly see no negative impact to have it implented in the game, since no gains or advantages are given to players that use them, actually they lose money since they could be out making ISK. The only benefit is the opportunity for a player to train himself in impossible situations and make some of the bests pilots this side of eden.
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Trimutius III
Legio Octae
Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.24 19:44:00 -
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Nice idea. But there one thong, it will mean more lags. And probably if it would be done it should be done inside stations... Maybe as a part of Incarna...
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