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Gibbo3771 AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse 132	Posted - 2012.07.04 12:47:00 - [1] - Quote You can call me bitter but I have not had a challenge in a computer game since such games as Rayman 1, Abes Oddysee and several of the first Need for Speeds. Is it just me or is every single game released since Xbox360 and PS3 hit the market, been so god damn easy and mostly focused on eye candy? I am a major fan of Abe Oddysee/Exoddus and then some little sneaky news on Steam said they were re-making it over but in HD, then I read further and as soon as I read the part that said "It stresses that this will be a new game, to be shown off later this year. It later clarified that while this project is starting "from scratch," it's using the original game as a blueprint." I for one would pay -ú30 for a HD version of the EXACT same game, levels, characters, story. Remakes of classics have happened many times and all they end up being is broken down versions with shiny graphics. I wish I was back in the days of N64 and PS1 :( Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country.
Nirnias Stirrum Caldari Provisions Caldari State 213	Posted - 2012.07.04 12:56:00 - [2] - Quote Couldnt agree with you more, in the last 8 years game quality has gone nothing but down hill. Its laughable. Spending 50 euro on a game you will complete and be finished with in like 4 or 5 hours. And companies wonder why they are loosing millions to piracy still. Gone are the days of Sacrifice, Giants: Citizen Kabuto, System Shock 1 & 2, proper games that are challenging and worth the money.
Gibbo3771 AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse 132	Posted - 2012.07.04 13:01:00 - [3] - Quote Nirnias Stirrum wrote: Couldnt agree with you more, in the last 8 years game quality has gone nothing but down hill. Its laughable. Spending 50 euro on a game you will complete and be finished with in like 4 or 5 hours. And companies wonder why they are loosing millions to piracy still. Gone are the days of Sacrifice, Giants: Citizen Kabuto, System Shock 1 & 2, proper games that are challenging and worth the money. Do you remember the first few resident evils? like honestly, the gameplay, the puzzles. The controller vibrating to your heartbeat as you open the door for the first time.... **** i even remember Alone In the Dark, the original and New Nightmare, those were great games 0_0 The resident evil, a FPS multliplayer like Left 4 Dead except worse in everyway. Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country.
Nirnias Stirrum Caldari Provisions Caldari State 213	Posted - 2012.07.04 13:06:00 - [4] - Quote I do i do.. I never completed it i got stuck near the end.. In fact to this day i still have not been able to complete Final Fantasy 7, 8 or 9! Im stuck on the last boss in every one >.< lol hmmm think i might break out the PS2 when i get home and start FF7 again from scratch. Sacrifice had 5 different campagins. Each campaign took you freaking AGES to complete the and story was incredible. and it was a damn had game! Giants: Citizen Kabuto was HILARIOUS.. by far the funniest game i have ever played, not that difficult but the quality of the game always made it stick! Or Mario Kart & Zelda: Orcarina of Time for the N64 if you want to talk about consoles also! I remember when i first started playing System Shock 2, i dunno what age i was young maybe 14 or 15. I had to stop playing it cause it was scary and damn hard! in fact now that i think about it **** i still havnt completed that either. I could never figure out the code for the elevator near the end. the one where you have to find parts of the code in the pictures hung up around the place.
Sidus Isaacs Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 134	Posted - 2012.07.04 13:11:00 - [5] - Quote Gibbo3771 wrote: You can call me bitter but I have not had a challenge in a computer game since such games as Rayman 1, Abes Oddysee and several of the first Need for Speeds. Is it just me or is every single game released since Xbox360 and PS3 hit the market, been so god damn easy and mostly focused on eye candy? I am a major fan of Abe Oddysee/Exoddus and then some little sneaky news on Steam said they were re-making it over but in HD, then I read further and as soon as I read the part that said "It stresses that this will be a new game, to be shown off later this year. It later clarified that while this project is starting "from scratch," it's using the original game as a blueprint." I for one would pay -ú30 for a HD version of the EXACT same game, levels, characters, story. Remakes of classics have happened many times and all they end up being is broken down versions with shiny graphics. I wish I was back in the days of N64 and PS1 :( I agree, and I love Abe Oddysee/Exoddus (got both on my PSP, and originals for PS1). Hope the remake is decent. Most new games are toned down to such a degree that they can sell it to most of the dumbed down population. And I see it all the time in new games, people complaining that they are not spoon fed the contents without having to do anything. The desire to explore, to find out, to understand.. gone for most people. They are just spoon fed trivial entertainment.
Gibbo3771 AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse 132	Posted - 2012.07.04 13:14:00 - [6] - Quote Nirnias Stirrum wrote: I do i do.. I never completed it i got stuck near the end.. In fact to this day i still have not been able to complete Final Fantasy 7, 8 or 9! Im stuck on the last boss in every one >.< lol hmmm think i might break out the PS2 when i get home and start FF7 again from scratch. Sacrifice had 5 different campagins. Each campaign took you freaking AGES to complete the and story was incredible. and it was a damn had game! Giants: Citizen Kabuto was HILARIOUS.. by far the funniest game i have ever played, not that difficult but the quality of the game always made it stick! Or Mario Kart & Zelda: Orcarina of Time for the N64 if you want to talk about consoles also! I remember when i first started playing System Shock 2, i dunno what age i was young maybe 14 or 15. I had to stop playing it cause it was scary and damn hard! in fact now that i think about it **** i still havnt completed that either. I could never figure out the code for the elevator near the end. the one where you have to find parts of the code in the pictures hung up around the place. You sound older than me :D :D :D I never played Giants or Sacrafice, I did however play Zelda, I tried and I failed at every Final Fantasy, I remember renting Final Fantasy VII out of "Global Video" when I was young and god, never got far in the week I played it lol. I dont own a PS2 anymore, I was in the indoor market back home last month and this guy in the PC repair shop had a PS2 for sale for -ú20 BUT he was sitting playing NFS Hot Pursuit on a playstation 1. I offered him -ú50 fukin for it and all the games he had, he just would not part with it. I still remember playing Pandamonium, that game was amazing. Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country.
Nirnias Stirrum Caldari Provisions Caldari State 213	Posted - 2012.07.04 13:24:00 - [7] - Quote Am only 25 but still young in my mind :P You can pick up PS2 consoles on ebay for next to nothing these days sure. Used ones are probably even cheaper! Im more of a PC gamer than a console gamer though. There are only a select few titles i would play on a console, i.e Final Fantasy 7-9 or Assassins creed.
FloppieTheBanjoClown The Skunkworks 1872	Posted - 2012.07.04 14:10:00 - [8] - Quote Gibbo3771 wrote: Do you remember the first few resident evils? like honestly, the gameplay, the puzzles. The controller vibrating to your heartbeat as you open the door for the first time.... I remember the first Resident Evil. It was terrible. Horrible voice acting, camera angles that prevented you from seeing the zombie that was 3 feet in front of you, a glack 9 mm that would fire one round ever few seconds...all the tension of the game was from ****** mechanics, not from actual scary moments. It was crap. It was just novel crap. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you.
Sin Pew Dakini Rising The Kali Cartel 81	Posted - 2012.07.04 14:37:00 - [9] - Quote Oh dear, most of those games were out at a time I wasn't playing much, but before that, I remember spending weeks on the first Zelda on NES or Super Mario bros 3. Was also the era or Tetris on gameboy and Sonic on gamegear. I remember there was another portable console, with more advanced games at the time, but can't remember the name. Those 8bits/16bits games got me hooked hours long with their repetitive music and 2D graphics, but damn... I loved it. My very first video game though, was a batman on Amstrad, dunno if it's been sold outside France, but that wasn't very different from Amiga at the time, just not as cool "- You want a sandwich, Bacon?" Support horizontal scrollbars in Eve! Click here, tyvm.
Alara IonStorm 2556	Posted - 2012.07.04 15:56:00 - [10] - Quote Nirnias Stirrum wrote: I do i do.. I never completed it i got stuck near the end.. In fact to this day i still have not been able to complete Final Fantasy 7, 8 or 9! Im stuck on the last boss in every one >.< lol hmmm think i might break out the PS2 when i get home and start FF7 again from scratch. You should try FFV. Also get Mario RPG on your Computer, it is... There are no words but it's like Mario Final Fantasy. Used to have FF7 and 9, never liked 8. FF9 is my favorite, 7 has the best story.
Vicky Somers Rusty Anchor 171	Posted - 2012.07.04 16:42:00 - [11] - Quote It's no so much a case of older games being better as it is a case of the industry growing and "big business" having a huge influence over quality, content and delivery (for the worse). While more people game now than 15 years ago, most of the new gamers are casuals with no sense of standards. Playing Madden or the 56th rehash of Call of Duty on a 360 pretty much makes you a casual. Gaming IS big business and somewhat of a forced trend. Going -10 IRL means nothing. If all the big names in the industry all go bankrupt today, it would mean nothing for video games. When was the last time EA, Activision or hell even Valve released something noteworthy? The best thing Valve does these days is sell HL2 mods that used to be/should be free. I'd tell people to pirate as much as they want but honestly, there are very little titles worth pirating. Buy yourself a SNES, n64 & a Dreamcast off ebay and download a bunch of PC games from the mid to late 90s and you're pretty much set for life. Or at least until the video game industry pulls its head out of its rear and decided to stop letting their greed get in the way of creativity. Moderate strength is shown in violence, supreme strength is shown in levity.
Unimaginative Guy Daralux SpaceMonkey's Alliance 20	Posted - 2012.07.04 18:01:00 - [12] - Quote I remember an old Indana Jones game for the computer'mostly adventure style. It was the GOD DAMN HARDEST game I've ever played. I had to draw chalk on the walls to not get lost. Now all modern games have a built in GPS system, even if your playing some wizard-knight-thing in the 12th century lol. The only real big hits now that are actually a bit difficult and arent rehashed copies of more garbage are the X3 series, The Witcher, and KOTOR. Mass Effect series and Edler Scroll series get honorable mention too. They may be dumbed down and casual but they ARE good.
Jett0 Surface Warfare The 99 Percent 162	Posted - 2012.07.04 18:33:00 - [13] - Quote [quote=Alara IonStorm]You should try FFV./quote] Woo, someone else liked that one! For new, hard games, look at the indie stuff. Super Meat Boy is a personal favorite. Occasionally plays sober
Alara IonStorm 2556	Posted - 2012.07.04 18:45:00 - [14] - Quote Jett0 wrote: Woo, someone else liked that one! Loved it. For a top down FF Game it had a brilliant story. My favorite part is when you first see the main villain. Exdeath returns. Whole thing is good but the awesome is at about 2:10. Exdeath has Sephiroth levels of awesome while on SNES without the Girl Hair, Long, log sword and Overcoat, not that I don't love those things. The whole FF5 Story is one of the best. I can't wait till they make a 3D version like they did with 1 through 4.
Nachteule Kohen 11	Posted - 2012.07.04 19:57:00 - [15] - Quote they are made easier to make more money, blizzard knows this very well.
Linna Excel Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 59	Posted - 2012.07.05 00:41:00 - [16] - Quote It depends on the game, some hold up much better than others. For example square rereleasing Tactics: Ogre was in some regards a better game than some of the newer FF games. I liked the rereleased DQ games on the DS more than I liked the new one. Older games in a newer shell (Legend of Grimrock) are fun too. That said, I like newer games too. Skyrim was cool. I love borderlands. Generally I think the two most important parts of a game: gameplay (what you are doing) and story (why) can make or break anything. As for eyecandy, it's new toys to play with and everyone is copying everyone else. If one AAA hit cut back on graphics by 25% and put that time and money into gameplay and the story being told, you'll see other game makers doing that. The purpose of hi sec isn't to eliminate PvP but to weed out the dumb pvpers. My Blog-á (feedback welcome)
Linna Excel Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 59	Posted - 2012.07.05 00:43:00 - [17] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: You should try FFV. Used to have FF7 and 9, never liked 8. FF9 is my favorite, 7 has the best story. Respectfully disagree. FFX was the best of the series and my favorite. The purpose of hi sec isn't to eliminate PvP but to weed out the dumb pvpers. My Blog-á (feedback welcome)
pussnheels 446	Posted - 2012.07.05 12:31:00 - [18] - Quote I know how you feel OP I always considered my self a wargammer, but real wargamming hobby, the cardboard counters and dice games like advanced squad leader , gmt s great battles of history series and the even better tabletop wargamming (excludind any of the latest warhammer spawns) So alot of the games i bought are just the pc versions of that hobby Games like the battlegroundseries Campaign series eastern front , western front , rising sun etc The operatonal art of war Gary grisby games like war in the pacific and war in the east, other titles like battle of brittain and over the reich And many more So almost every game that comes out now for me just looks so dumbyfied what they used to call a arcade game they now market as a truly strategic/tactical wargame or super realistic flightsim mmehhh really kids don t want to any challenge any more only thing they want is instant gratification and a I WIN button There are still good games out there but they are rare and tend to be more expensive I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Reiisha Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence 135	Posted - 2012.07.05 14:13:00 - [19] - Quote New games are coming back me thinks... Endless Space is pretty interesting. Skyrim can't really be ignored here, i've been playing it for 150+ hours now, that was worth the money i put into it. Despite ME3's ending, it's still a damn good game that can keep you busy for 25+ hours at least. BF3's singleplayer aside - It's still the best multiplayer shooter around at the moment. Previous PC BF's didn't even have singleplayer at all. There are a lot of duds nowadays too, of course, as everything is monetized to hell and back. But still, there's some gems around aswell. Also, don't forget, in ye olden days there were still tons of ridiculously crappy games. It probably came to the absolute low point with Descent to Undermountain, a game released in 1999 or so that was DOS only and had a maximum (!) resolution of 320x200, but still managed to crash every 20 seconds (not joking).
FloppieTheBanjoClown The Skunkworks 1875	Posted - 2012.07.05 14:23:00 - [20] - Quote Nachteule Kohen wrote: they are made easier to make more money, blizzard knows this very well. I realized just how bad games had gotten when I played Batman: Arkham Asylum. It was almost impossible to lose. It was more about th How to make a winning game in the 21st century: 1) Checkpoints, checkpoints, checkpoints. Never make them replay more than a few minutes after a failure. 2) Remove lasting consequences by doing things like refilling health bars as a reward for not fighting for a few seconds. I'm looking at you, Halo. 3) Instead of side quests and branching storylines, ncrease playtime by adding arbitrary "achievements" for gamers to collect. After all, I can totally see Batman spending 30 hours trying to find all the hidden riddles before you complete the 4 hours of actual gameplay. 4) Attach content to those achievements rather than game progression. That cool new gun should come for picking up 300 coins, not because it's a critical element to the next level of the game. 4a) Bonus points for applying this to multiplayer, because nothing says "balance" like giving the best tools to the people who spend hundreds of hours making all the achievements. 5) Pay more attention to cinematic "coolness" than game mechanics. So long as the gamer gets eye candy and wins the game, they won't care how absurdly easy the game is. I weep for modern console gamers. They've had so few games that do it right. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you.
Gibbo3771 AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse 133	Posted - 2012.07.05 14:58:00 - [21] - Quote Jett0 wrote: [quote=Alara IonStorm]You should try FFV./quote] Woo, someone else liked that one! For new, hard games, look at the indie stuff. Super Meat Boy is a personal favorite. This, these new small, very small 1-10 man game dev teams that release games like Super Meat Boy, Machanarium and Bastion. These are the future imo, these people deserve the money that all these **** rag ass big companys like EA, Activition, Blizzard etc etc are getting. Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country.
Jett0 Surface Warfare The 99 Percent 164	Posted - 2012.07.06 08:03:00 - [22] - Quote Gibbo3771 wrote: This, these new small, very small 1-10 man game dev teams that release games like Super Meat Boy, Machanarium and Bastion. These are the future imo, these people deserve the money that all these **** rag ass big companys like EA, Activition, Blizzard etc etc are getting. Played all of them! Also, The Binding of Isaac. Still haven't beaten it. EDIT: Dare I mention... I Wanna Be The Guy?? Occasionally plays sober
Sidus Isaacs Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 134	Posted - 2012.07.06 08:31:00 - [23] - Quote Linna Excel wrote: Alara IonStorm wrote: You should try FFV. Used to have FF7 and 9, never liked 8. FF9 is my favorite, 7 has the best story. Respectfully disagree. FFX was the best of the series and my favorite. I prefer FFVI actually.
Shameless Avenger Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 127	Posted - 2012.07.06 15:38:00 - [24] - Quote Gaming companies are doing this on purpose. They realized that people were playing the games for too long so they nerfed them. They want you to come back and buy another game as soon as possible so they could keep making money. Working as intended. This is where subscription games like eve come into play. They have to keep the game interesting to keep you from unsubbing.
Fiona Ballbuster Red Scorpion Nr. 9 0	Posted - 2012.07.07 01:23:00 - [25] - Quote Shameless Avenger wrote: Gaming companies are doing this on purpose. They realized that people were playing the games for too long so they nerfed them. They want you to come back and buy another game as soon as possible so they could keep making money. Working as intended. This is where subscription games like eve come into play. They have to keep the game interesting to keep you from unsubbing. And that is why you never will find eve to be 'balanced' they always need people to train for something else...
Viktor Fyretracker Emminent Terraforming 28	Posted - 2012.07.07 04:31:00 - [26] - Quote A big issue today is hardware is too graphically capable and TVs are too big. Now I love a big ass television. but the point of my comment is that it seems game devs care more now about photo real 1080p graphics than they do a good game experience. But this is also because people are brainwashed today to think better graphics=better game. This is sad because when you think about it, one of the best multiplayer FPS games is Goldeneye on the N64.
Terranid Meester Tactical Assault and Recon Unit 41	Posted - 2012.07.08 19:20:00 - [27] - Quote Gmaes are harder when you are young and therefore less experienced in gaming? The cloud of nostalgia may be impeding your views somewhat and also maybe some devs in the older days may have made some games too hard for some. These days we have more choice in the amount of game we can choose thanks to platforms such as Steam and MMO's like EVE enable player interaction to make it as hard as we like. Though I personally don't see playing Mass Effect 3 on a difficulty setting less than the highest much of a point and play stuff like the Arma series, some lower difficulties have their case, especially when you tried to play Dragon Age 2 on the highest difficulty. And also for storyline reasons too, if you play for the story. The nice graphics are a boon however.
NeoShocker Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD. 129	Posted - 2012.07.09 01:46:00 - [28] - Quote Still waiting for a game like star wars tie fighter. Game of the century in my book :-) Oh, and I keep coming back to play Bindings of Isaac. :-) Great game.
Sidus Isaacs Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 136	Posted - 2012.07.09 11:17:00 - [29] - Quote Terranid Meester wrote: The nice graphics are a boon however. They are a mixed blessing actually. Once everything is photo realistic, you loose other aspects of the games. I like games that keeps some form of abstractions, because then my imagination kicks off, and I feel more emotionally invested and interested in the game then if it had been to photo realistic. One of my all time favorite space strategy game was all numbers, no graphics at all other then a small map showing stars, or an icon here and there. Then the focus as strategy, and tactics, and how well you managed to balance production and research as well as talk to other players and keep some diplomacy up. Another very nice game is AI War: Fleet Command, because its all symbols on any meaningful zoom level (some 2D sprite close in, but on cannot play the game that zoomed in, just for show). Just as I prefer Borderlands, and TF2 to any photo realistic FPS. Maybe personal preference here, but still. I like the creative expression in such game, or just the simplicity of it. Heck, even in EVE, I play zoom out most of the time unless I need to do some nifty piloting. Not saying graphics does not have a role, because it can be used to great effect in certain games.
Velarra Ghost Festival Naraka. 80	Posted - 2012.07.10 05:08:00 - [30] - Quote I'd really like to see a remake of Oregon Trail, [Rated M] for modern computers by a decent, reliable publisher/developer.

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